Apache AT600 led vs 1000w HPS Blue Dream Grow

I find it highly amusing for anyone to dismiss an LED light because heath pulled 2g/w with a 600. Ughhh news flash heath had been doing that for years and very few can compete with heath. He's been growing vertical bare bulb a long time and only perdon I can think of off the top of my head I would put on the same level as heath is Krusty. If you can't grow as good as heath why would you base anything off his successes? If you do your probably going to be very disappointed.


And Heath if you happen to see this you need to bring back the black rose! Please and thank you. LOL

earthling420 said:

red im sorry but it does seem troll like to make a claim amd when asked to post a link you "cant" but then keep finding more lights on the internet and posting here lol

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Do you really need a link to a well known business's web page? Tell which one you want and I'll post a link.

Red1966 said:

Do you really need a link to a well known business's web page? Tell which one you want and I'll post a link.

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You're a piece of work...he was asking for a link to the led you were claiming...you know, the 236lm/w@1w chip...the one you compared to what you thought was 86lm/w cree cob...get educated before opening your stupid mouth...try 130+lm/w...even 190lm/w if you want it.

Now get the fuck out of my thread. Do not respond to this...just leave.

My bad for asking questions lol.

Red1966 said:

Do you really need a link to a well known business's web page? Tell which one you want and I'll post a link.

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Wow! you mean it? Thanks, you're a stand up guy! I'd like you to post.... nothing! Cause you are either dyslexic or trolling.

I never directly asked you to post a link. I was recalling your past actions which you mistook as the present. You aren't understanding anybody in this thread...

genie post some pics of your veggie garden too next time you upload anything.

Greengenes707 said:

You're a piece of work...he was asking for a link to the led you were claiming...you know, the 236lm/w@1w chip...the one you compared to what you thought was 86lm/w cree cob...get educated before opening your stupid mouth...try 130+lm/w...even 190lm/w if you want it.

Now get the fuck out of my thread. Do not respond to this...just leave.

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Oh, the whole page of 424lm/w diodes wasn't good enough? This ain't your thread, but I'll be glad to leave. Who needs a bunch of thin-skinned, cry baby little girls. "Oh. he said something different than what I been saying. He's a baaaaaaad man"

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Oh, the whole page of 424lm/w diodes wasn't good enough? This ain't your thread, but I'll be glad to leave. Who needs a bunch of thin-skinned, cry baby little girls. "Oh. he said something different than what I been saying. He's a baaaaaaad man"

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actually it is his thread...

see ya... thanks for stopping by...

I'm dropping the samples off tomorrow, so once I get them back...this thread is done

about the test,are any other led - hps nug test out in the world..or will you be the first?

genuity said:

about the test,are any other led - hps nug test out in the world..or will you be the first?

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My predecessor did it. And I have heard of others. was a 3% difference favoring the led.

Might not make it down tomorrow. We will see. Will get it done.

I throw the inca grow up today. It covers the area nicely. My garden is definitely bigger this round.



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The garden, zucchini, eggplant

Blach cheery tomatoes, merlot grapes, strawberries with a blue frost in the back.

in the uvb thread in indoor growing. Uncle Tom posted pics of 2 tests from canna labs. Both same strain but one with uvb and one with out. Probably with hps too. The uvb one had 6% higher thc and 3% higher cbd. From everything could find, canna labs seems to be a reputable lab.

He added fluoro (tanning lamp) to HPS. The vast majority of light from tanning fluoros is cool white light, with a tiny bit of UVA and UVB. This increases the blue percentage, so it could be the increase in blue, or the UVA or the UVB that caused the increase in cannabinoids. I suspect it is the 450nm blue that is making the difference because I see such a large difference between HPS bud and LED bud, even without UV supplementation.

If true, GGs test will be a good example of that.

SupraSPL said:

I suspect it is the 450nm blue that is making the difference because I see such a large difference between HPS bud and LED bud, even without UV supplementation.

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This is why i am incorporating more 'blue ' into my latest panel....i have noticed this in budz under mainly blue light....although they take longer to finish

Yea I am still trying to figure that one out. It seems like certain, usually larger yielding ladies dont want to come to a clean finish. I'll put them in the corner of the flower room when the next batch comes in and give them some extra time in the dark room, but those big dense buds can get the beginnings of bud rot. Even if you cant see it normally, I notice it when trimming in the dark with a headlamp, little bits of white dust (spores) that come from the inside of the biggest buds on certain plants. So far my solution has been to try not to overfert and I select the ladies that finish clean.

Greengenes707 said:

I throw the inca grow up today. It covers the area nicely. My garden is definitely bigger this round.
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I just pulled 8 supersteak tomato plants and 6 cucumber plants down,, a few minutes ago, its just too damn hot for them in south florida this time of the year, Jalapenos and bells are loving life in the sun tho

I continuously see this happening with newer technology....example...LED lighting!!!!!...people want them to work better than the standard....So bad they will tell you whatever fits that day, and "will" it too be better technology! lol Guys...they are not as good to flower with....stick to veg with the LED's and stop trying to "Wish" it into better technology for growing......sure it may happen...but why waste time and effort now? Let the astronauts figure it out....then jump on board.

"his leads me to think your answers are based more on your enthusiasm than fact. Doesn't make you wrong, but doesn't instill confidence either" .....BINGO!!!!! lol

And the whole saving power argument......I run a 250W HPS on 12\12 FS, and yield roughly 2 oz per.....What people need to learn how to do....IMO....is capitalize on using small light,(HPS) and getting great results, with minimal light(therefore saving $).....Use the technology(PROVEN) and make it the most efficient grow you can. Tell ya what I wont do...sacrifice buds for new technology or to "possibly" save power on my hydro bill. Have a great day! I like to take chances just like the next guy....but I will not "throw out the baby with the bathwater"....so too speak.. Just my 2 cents!

WB, you must be 3 months behind. Commercial LED growers are almost doubling HPS and DIYers are more than doubling. That is a huge decrease in heat, reducing or eliminating the need for AC. You would have to not like money to miss the significance of that.

SupraSPL said:

WB, you must be 3 months behind. Commercial LED growers are almost doubling HPS and DIYers are more than doubling. That is a huge decrease in heat, reducing or eliminating the need for AC. You would have to not like money to miss the significance of that.

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Yep...............also him suggesting^^^ using small wattage hps as a proven power saver is slightly comical considering they are the most inefficient.