"Area 51 LED" Information and discussion

Eraserhead

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1 million is not enough. 5 million is not. Once I reach 15 million, I'll rethink things. At this point, A51 makes roughly 500k a year, steadily growing, but 15 million is many, many years away.
A million is NOT enough.
I recently got an offer from a factory, they sent me an email about a week ago, and it wasn't the general spammy "look at my Chinese crap" with tons of pics from Alicrappa, he was quite nice and addressed me with respect and wanted to work with A51 sincerely. I can't say who, I made them sign a NDA just to talk to me, I signed it too, I respect agreements, so....

They are offering to pay for just about everything, housing case molds, parts, everything, A51 pays for the LEDs that would be used.

I am about 45% sure I want to do something, nothing regarding the Vero 29 lamps, those are already being built somewhere else, as we speak... This would be a specialty lamp of sorts.

My idea, just an idea, this would be a far red initiator, with a deep red waker upper, both on separate circuits. I've never tested either, but others apparently have and say it works. Is this something that y'all would like to see? Are there better ideas? Nothing that would conflict with the current A51 plans, which can be found here, in detail: http://www.ledgrowlight.lighting/forum/showthread.php?tid=6
 

Eraserhead

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It will be whatever the absolute highest bin is available at the time of release. The plan is only to do these maybe 24 at a time, just in case something better comes out, so we won't be sitting on older tech. The idea for these is to be the absolute best at all times.

They will be costly, but less than the most expensive that's out there already.

A51's markup is 30% for regular lamps, it pays for the warehouse, our employees, taxes, and the rest goes to myself for my cost of living, anything over goes to a bank account in St. Kitts. For my retirement.

For the super efficient CXB lamps, the markup will be more like 10%, stuff needs to get paid for, can't do them for free...
 

AquariusPanta

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It will be whatever the absolute highest bin is available at the time of release. The plan is only to do these maybe 24 at a time, just in case something better comes out, so we won't be sitting on older tech. The idea for these is to be the absolute best at all times.

They will be costly, but less than the most expensive that's out there already.

A51's markup is 30% for regular lamps, it pays for the warehouse, our employees, taxes, and the rest goes to myself for my cost of living, anything over goes to a bank account in St. Kitts. For my retirement.

For the super efficient CXB lamps, the markup will be more like 10%, stuff needs to get paid for, can't do them for free...
Besides Optic, who else out there is sporting similar, if not exact, technology, i.e. Cree CX COBS?
 

Eraserhead

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As far as I know, Optic is it. Except they use Vero v1. I would think they'd switch to v2s soon enough.

Did you all see GrowBrown changed their description for their Apollo? It's not 5w Bridgelux Vero Xtreme anymore. It's just plain Bridgelux.

They also have a video on the interwebz, they took a 3D image of an Apollo, and rotated it in a video explaining that's why they're not resellers...


They need to have some respect for themselves... Really...
 

Positivity

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Sounds good...the video..

But wasn't that design around before gro-blu?

So he's taking credit for designing it from the ground up? Designed the drivers?

Oh my....
 

Eraserhead

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Has anyone else had to do a captcha before posting on here? I use TOR, so I get them all the time.

The last captcha in particular just made me spell out a naughty word.

It was totally worth it...

If you have the money for your own driver design, you also have the money for your own housing case design, generally, if you pay for one, you'll get the other for free. Or each for 1/2 off. Regardless.... Even if it's 2 different companies, you can make them compete, or work together, it's so easy, GrowClown has been in this business since 2012, they know what China is about.

Designed the drivers...
 
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