Eraserhead
Well-Known Member
This is long overdue:
Will there be more half-size RW units if A51 does an updated model? I know it said they were discontinued, but given how well they've sold I don't see why they wouldn't be back in the lineup soon.
Excellent!!!This is the line-up:
3000k Vero 29 v2 @ 80w
4000k Vero 29 v2 @ 80w
5000k Vero 29 v2 @ 80w
CXB 3590 @ 25w
CXB 3590 @ 50w
XPG2 5000k S4, XPE2 red P4 @ 70w (this will also be the upgrade kit's LEDs)
Each of those fixtures can be connected into larger fixtures in either a square shape or a longer shape, depending on the grower's needs. You can even mix the different versions in one big frankenpanel if you chose to do so.
Excellent!!!
What's the ETA on pricing?
Thanks for the interest, I'm at work right now but I'll send you an email when I get a moment.Sounds good to me. Shoot me an email.
Why are you making fixtures that have such low wattage why not make larger fixtures? 25 and 50w seem like side lighting options I think a lot of us are looking for a larger 500-600 watt panel that can yield similar to a 1000w HID light not really looking for a 25watt flashlight...
Yea 4k for covering a 4x4 is not really feasible for me and I would imagine many others in the same boat,I would like to get more LEDs but until they can bring more to the table price wise per foot of coverage I just don't see any need to invest more. The best option for me at this point is to continue to use HID until commercial LED fixtures come along price wise. Buying 4k worth of LEDs to cover a small area like 4x4 is just not a smart investment I could put that money towards more efficient air conditioning, installing a bad ass co2 release system, I could buy bulbs that would last 40+ years for that price. A 4x4 coverage only costs 300-500$ for the best HID lights and your saying these cost over 10 times that, the more I look at LEDs the more I think what a bad investment they are.It does add some cost to have them linkable rather individual models with varying power, but it is quite small.
Having multiple panels of varying power will cost more in initial machining costs, which will in the end cost more than the smaller model that can link up to make bigger panels.
The way I'm doing it, it gives more options at less overall cost. People can choose what to get based on their needs and budget. Not everyone will be able to afford to spend $4000+ on lighting a 4x4, that's why there's a 50w version of the CXB. Still great efficiency. You can take 12 of them for 25% less cost and 200 extra watts, and make three 47"x7" panels and spread those 600w over a 4x4.
For those that can't afford that, they can look to the Veros. Still decent efficiency. Connect six of them in a 24" x 24" panel that makes 480w, or 8 of them in a 24" x 32" panel that makes 640w.
It really wouldn't be 16 individual panels over a 4x4, it'd be 4 panels, much more manageable.
There's something for everyone, mostly.
i think that's why he had worked on a variety it doesn't have to cost 4000 unless you want it too that's why led is diverse it can do what your looking for. I like what he's talking about I'm very much looking forward to seeing them!Yea 4k for covering a 4x4 is not really feasible for me and I would imagine many others in the same boat,I would like to get more LEDs but until they can bring more to the table price wise per foot of coverage I just don't see any need to invest more. The best option for me at this point is to continue to use HID until commercial LED fixtures come along price wise. Buying 4k worth of LEDs to cover a small area like 4x4 is just not a smart investment I could put that money towards more efficient air conditioning, installing a bad ass co2 release system, I could buy bulbs that would last 40+ years for that price. A 4x4 coverage only costs 300-500$ for the best HID lights and your saying these cost over 10 times that, the more I look at LEDs the more I think what a bad investment they are.
About time you showed back up....we need some reinforcements! Hope you are doing wellI don't know why there always has to be fucking drama? What the fuck happened to this forum? Even my lurking is down to once a day in the morning.
For 300-500$ your clearly talking about a Gavita'ish type commercial fixture. All the stuff I have been browsing as Top of the line and air coolable is closer to $800-$1K once all pieced togetherYea 4k for covering a 4x4 is not really feasible for me and I would imagine many others in the same boat,I would like to get more LEDs but until they can bring more to the table price wise per foot of coverage I just don't see any need to invest more. The best option for me at this point is to continue to use HID until commercial LED fixtures come along price wise. Buying 4k worth of LEDs to cover a small area like 4x4 is just not a smart investment I could put that money towards more efficient air conditioning, installing a bad ass co2 release system, I could buy bulbs that would last 40+ years for that price. A 4x4 coverage only costs 300-500$ for the best HID lights and your saying these cost over 10 times that, the more I look at LEDs the more I think what a bad investment they are.
I'm sickened by all the BS, but that's the forums on the internet, always some shit like that happening.It does add some cost to have them linkable rather individual models with varying power, but it is quite small.
Having multiple panels of varying power will cost more in initial machining costs, which will in the end cost more than the smaller model that can link up to make bigger panels.
The way I'm doing it, it gives more options at less overall cost. People can choose what to get based on their needs and budget. Not everyone will be able to afford to spend $4000+ on lighting a 4x4, that's why there's a 50w version of the CXB. Still great efficiency. You can take 12 of them for 25% less cost and 200 extra watts, and make three 47"x7" panels and spread those 600w over a 4x4.
For those that can't afford that, they can look to the Veros. Still decent efficiency. Connect six of them in a 24" x 24" panel that makes 480w, or 8 of them in a 24" x 32" panel that makes 640w.
It really wouldn't be 16 individual panels over a 4x4, it'd be 4 panels, much more manageable.
There's something for everyone, mostly.
The up-front price is fine, the efficiency provides savings over time, and LEDs live a long time, if you keep them around they constantly become cheaper the more you use them, how does this escape your notice? Honestly, why are you looking at LED lights? I have the cheapest electricity in the country but I'm excited about the coverage vs cost per hour. Your value equation doesn't seem to include the electric cost over time.Yea 4k for covering a 4x4 is not really feasible for me and I would imagine many others in the same boat,I would like to get more LEDs but until they can bring more to the table price wise per foot of coverage I just don't see any need to invest more. The best option for me at this point is to continue to use HID until commercial LED fixtures come along price wise. Buying 4k worth of LEDs to cover a small area like 4x4 is just not a smart investment I could put that money towards more efficient air conditioning, installing a bad ass co2 release system, I could buy bulbs that would last 40+ years for that price. A 4x4 coverage only costs 300-500$ for the best HID lights and your saying these cost over 10 times that, the more I look at LEDs the more I think what a bad investment they are.