"Area 51 LED" Information and discussion

swagslayer420 · Jan 27, 2016

Yodaweed said:
When will an LED maker realize, the majority of us legal growers are moving up in scale not down, we are getting BIGGER more POWERFUL lights, aka 1kw DE lights, these closet lights are so over priced...who is going to blindly waste money like that, I could put that money into better things, I just don't see it.

one 4 cxb3590 unit and 6 4k vero 29 v.2 for like $1535.50 and you got 643 watts of led that's 40w/sqft over 4x4 area

kmog33 · Jan 27, 2016

Yodaweed said:
See 150-200 dollars is completely reasonable for a light of that quality. I would totally for a light at that price point. That's what these lights should cost, they are relatively cheap to build....so much mark up...

I would probably sell units like this for ~$225 tbh if it were me. And I wouldn't say it would flower any more than a 2x2 but it does that well.

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KarmaPaymentPlan · Jan 27, 2016

Yodaweed said:
Just humorous to me to watch you LEDs guys try to progress, its like watching the special Olympics , you all should get a prize.

special olympics. your special we have people show up everyday and grasp the concept of higher efficiency
your still rehashing the samee argument since youv shown up meanwhile everybody around you is learning and moving forward
yeah your special

Greengenes707 · Jan 27, 2016

Yodaweed said:
Don't be a tough guy through the internet, you wouldn't want to meet me, it would ruin your day.

So you'll be at the cup then big talker. See you there

Yodaweed · Jan 27, 2016

Greengenes707 said:
So you'll be at the cup then big talker. See you there

You are such a joke kiddo, I wouldn't want to hurt you, I already have a record don't need more trouble.

PSUAGRO. · Jan 27, 2016

Greengenes707 said:
You want to meet up man. Anytime. Come to the cup and say that to my face

2016 and Yodatroll just has to bash some a51 gear===== nothing new, let it go GG

KarmaPaymentPlan · Jan 27, 2016

Yodaweed said:
Don't be a tough guy through the internet, you wouldn't want to meet me, it would ruin your day.

i think your only tough through the net cuz your kinda a joke online as well

awsome new line up for a51

Greengenes707 · Jan 27, 2016

Yodaweed said:
You are such a joke kiddo, I wouldn't want to hurt you, I already have a record don't need more trouble.

Cool, so do you want to come talk shit to my face and see what happens or not. So far you're the tough guy through the internet.

ttystikk · Jan 27, 2016

Yodaweed said:
See 150-200 dollars is completely reasonable for a light of that quality. I would totally for a light at that price point. That's what these lights should cost, they are relatively cheap to build....so much mark up...

Then quit your bitching and get to work already!

Damn, fool- do you have any business experience at all? Do you understand that people need their time to pay? The retail price takes into account the demands of labor time and distribution cost.

The same markups exist in HID lighting, as well. Makes you wonder what the 'actual' cost is on those, huh?

I paid good money for my units, a price which included labor. I don't begrudge people their time investment in my equipment.

Why do you?

Yodaweed · Jan 27, 2016

ttystikk said:
Then quit your bitching and get to work already!

Damn, fool- do you have any business experience at all? Do you understand that people need their time to pay? The retail price takes into account the demands of labor time and distribution cost.

The same markups exist in HID lighting, as well. Makes you wonder what the 'actual' cost is on those, huh?

I paid good money for my units, a price which included labor. I don't begrudge people their time investment in my equipment.

Why do you?

300% mark up is beyond what should be marked up. 50-75$ mark up on a 150$ build should be adequate.

KarmaPaymentPlan · Jan 27, 2016

Yodaweed said:
300% mark up is beyond what should be marked up. 50-75$ mark up on a 150$ build should be adequate.

how much do you mark up your weed?
i doubt your greedy ass is giving it away
so you make money off others but dont wanna spend it on others whov invested time and effort
noticing anything?

Yodaweed · Jan 27, 2016

KarmaPaymentPlan said:
how much do you mark up your weed?
i doubt your greedy ass is giving it away
so you make money off others but dont wanna spend it on others whov invested time and effort
noticing anything?

I don't sell any weed or clones or seeds, I only grow for my own medical purposes and sometimes gift to friends. Sorry you do not know what compassionate means.

Yodaweed · Jan 27, 2016

Not all of us need the money from this industry some of us have other means of making money than to have to gouge people on their meds.

KarmaPaymentPlan · Jan 27, 2016

Yodaweed said:
I don't sell any weed or clones or seeds, I only grow for my own medical purposes and sometimes gift to friends. Sorry you do not know what compassionate means.

i dont sell either and i have a whole room with a mix of diy and prebuilts and ive never bitched about price
in fact i only make 12 and hour and still support my wife whos in school if anyone whould bitch about price its me

KarmaPaymentPlan · Jan 27, 2016

Yodaweed said:
Not all of us need the money from this industry some of us have other means of making money than to have to gouge people on their meds.

a light is not meds

Yodaweed · Jan 27, 2016

Eraserhead said:
I'm glad someone noticed. Price per COB is more than reasonable. There's the Optic 120 that has (2) Vero 18s at 1.75a for $329, or $164.50 per COB. The new A51 is $535 for (4) CXB3590 CDs, or $133.75 per COB. A COB that is tons better than Vero 18s.

Yeah, A51 copied you.

Why don't you stop being a pussy and start your own LED company? Or do you like crying on the internet? Oh boo hoo, A51 has expensive lights. Boo hoo, there's cheaper lights... Boo hoo, they don't make underwear big enough for my giant vagina. BOO HOO. Shut the fuck up...

Seems like you may be over paying for your cobs they are listed on digikey for 49$. http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?keywords=cxb3590
Personal insults are not needed.

Yodaweed · Jan 27, 2016

KarmaPaymentPlan said:
i dont sell either and i have a whole room with a mix of diy and prebuilts and ive never bitched about price
in fact i only make 12 and hour and still support my wife whos in school if anyone whould bitch about price its me

God bless your heart.

JediMindTrix · Jan 27, 2016

What size tent is that RW-150.1 aimed at? I didn't see the last version of the 150, did it have Cree like this one does?

Yodaweed · Jan 27, 2016

JediMindTrix said:
What size tent is that RW-150.1 aimed at? I didn't see the last version of the 150, did it have Cree like this one does?

A small one, you would need at least 4 of them to cover a 4x4 tent.

Eraserhead · Jan 27, 2016

Yodaweed said:
Yep when someone has something critical to say this is what this pussy does.

Yodaweed said:
I never insulted one person

Yodaweed said:
Personal insults are not needed.

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