Article 1 Section 28. Repeal of Marihuana Prohibition

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jonnynobody

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[h=1]Constitutional Amendment To End Marihuana Prohibition In Michigan[/h] A Petition to amend the Michigan Constitution, Article 1, to add:
[h=2]Article 1 Section 28. Repeal of Marihuana Prohibition.[/h] For persons who are at least 21 years of age who are not incarcerated, marihuana acquisition, cultivation, manufacture, sale, delivery, transfer, transportation, possession, ingestion, presence in or on the body, religious, medical, industrial, agricultural, commercial or personal use, or possession or use of paraphernalia shall not be prohibited, abridged or penalized in any manner, nor subject to civil forfeiture; provided that no person shall be permitted to operate an aircraft, motor vehicle, motorboat, ORV, snowmobile, train, or other heavy or dangerous equipment or machinery while impaired by marihuana.


So there you have it...the full text of the proposal to amend the michigan state constitution. The language sounds pretty damn solid to me. Any objections here y'all?


One thing that I see as a problem is the very limited number of locations in which citizens can sign the petition. It looks as if you're not in detroit, you have extremely limited places to sign on. That's something they really need to address.

https://help.repealtoday.org/
 
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bob harris

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jonnynobody said:
Constitutional Amendment To End Marihuana Prohibition In Michigan

A Petition to amend the Michigan Constitution, Article 1, to add:
Article 1 Section 28. Repeal of Marihuana Prohibition.

For persons who are at least 21 years of age who are not incarcerated, marihuana acquisition, cultivation, manufacture, sale, delivery, transfer, transportation, possession, ingestion, presence in or on the body, religious, medical, industrial, agricultural, commercial or personal use, or possession or use of paraphernalia shall not be prohibited, abridged or penalized in any manner, nor subject to civil forfeiture; provided that no person shall be permitted to operate an aircraft, motor vehicle, motorboat, ORV, snowmobile, train, or other heavy or dangerous equipment or machinery while impaired by marihuana.


So there you have it...the full text of the proposal to amend the michigan state constitution. The language sounds pretty damn solid to me. Any objections here y'all?


One thing that I see as a problem is the very limited number of locations in which citizens can sign the petition. It looks as if you're not in detroit, you have extremely limited places to sign on. That's something they really need to address.

https://help.repealtoday.org/
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I don't have a problem with it..but there are some glaring holes that some will have problems with.

It doesn't mention quantity limits..as written, would this allow massive grows? No way a bill that allows "farming' will pass.
 
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stumpjumper

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bob harris said:
I don't have a problem with it..but there are some glaring holes that some will have problems with.

It doesn't mention quantity limits..as written, would this allow massive grows? No way a bill that allows "farming' will pass.
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I think farming is covered under "agricultural"... if it is legal it's legal for whatever people want to do with it. Farming would be in the best interests for everyone.
 
probo24

probo24

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bob harris said:
I don't have a problem with it..but there are some glaring holes that some will have problems with.

It doesn't mention quantity limits..as written, would this allow massive grows? No way a bill that allows "farming' will pass.
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Unless we can convince people that Reefer Madness isn't a documentary film on marijuana, and instead point to the potential industrial applications for hemp. Along with it's responsible recreational use.

There's some of that urban farming, with the added bonus of a dent in the real "war on drugs" the DEA could only dream of.
With total legalization, I'd bet in less than ten years we'd see what a total farce the war on personal behavior disguised as a war on plants not condoned for profit has been.
 
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jonnynobody

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bob harris said:
I don't have a problem with it..but there are some glaring holes that some will have problems with.

It doesn't mention quantity limits..as written, would this allow massive grows? No way a bill that allows "farming' will pass.
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It couldn't be more clear. If the drafters intended for there to be a limit one could posses, you'd see it in the language of the amendment. There's no limit to how much alcohol you can posses is there?
 
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jonnynobody

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probo24 said:
Unless we can convince people that Reefer Madness isn't a documentary film on marijuana, and instead point to the potential industrial applications for hemp. Along with it's responsible recreational use.

There's some of that urban farming, with the added bonus of a dent in the real "war on drugs" the DEA could only dream of.
With total legalization, I'd bet in less than ten years we'd see what a total farce the war on personal behavior disguised as a war on plants not condoned for profit has been.
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The more people that become educated, the more support there will be for an end to prohibition. Ever notice the correlation with public opinion polls on ending marijuana prohibition historically have been on the rise since the widespread use of the internet (circa 1996+)? Prior to that, support for legalization / decriminalization had never even breached 35% and certainly not the 50% that we're seeing currently.

The government and mainstream media no longer have a stranglehold on public opinions and ideas....we the people do through the power of the world wide web. As I love to say, Viva la resistance!
 
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bob harris

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jonnynobody said:
It couldn't be more clear. If the drafters intended for there to be a limit one could posses, you'd see it in the language of the amendment. There's no limit to how much alcohol you can posses is there?
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Nope, you can have all you can buy. Making your own would be another issue entirely...
 
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bob harris

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jonnynobody said:
Bob, where in the amendment do you see a limit on cultivation because I've been unable to locate that specific clause.
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I don't see any limitation with cultivation..that's the problem. The bill as written would allow every landowner in Michigan to plant weed...that's just not gonna happen. Hence, the bill as written, is doomed in my opinion.

If it passed..that would just mean that a new law has to be written. just like when medical cannabis passed. The bill as written would make writing that law an impossible task. (remember, it has to be enacted in a relatively short time after being passed)

then you'd have a worse situation than we have now. Feds would jump in for sure.
 
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jonnynobody

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bob harris said:
I don't see any limitation with cultivation..that's the problem. The bill as written would allow every landowner in Michigan to plant weed...that's just not gonna happen. Hence, the bill as written, is doomed in my opinion.

If it passed..that would just mean that a new law has to be written. just like when medical cannabis passed. The bill as written would make writing that law an impossible task. (remember, it has to be enacted in a relatively short time after being passed)

then you'd have a worse situation than we have now. Feds would jump in for sure.
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Feds are already here. Don't be afraid of confrontation bob. It belittles the movement and I see no problem with the current amendment as written.
 
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bob harris

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bob harris said:
Nope, you can have all you can buy. Making your own would be another issue entirely...
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I think the public in general is all for legalization. I just don't think the public truly understands the Global economic and political ramifications that that would create. Over night we become the worlds cannabis supplier? Or since it's legal here, do we get flooded with Thai weed?

Even if it were legalized with limitations such as with liquor, the size and scope of the money involved is mind boggling. Who gets to grow it? who gets to sell it? How is the industry monitored? imports? Exports?

It's the complexity of implementation that is the root cause of the slow gains being made for cannabis.

You can wish it was a simple human right to grow any plant you choose. You can wish for total legalization. But as the saying goes, be careful what you wish for, you just may get it.
 
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bob harris

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jonnynobody said:
Bob, if the amendment passes, you can sell all the "overages" you want.
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I understand that. And I certainly have no problem with confrontation. I just like to give myself an opportunity to win that confrontation. Had the bill been flushed out more, with some limits and control, I feel it would have a better chance of passing.

I'd love to see it pass as written..but I just don't think it will. Should have asked for a smaller bite at the apple.
 
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jonnynobody

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bob harris said:
I understand that. And I certainly have no problem with confrontation. I just like to give myself an opportunity to win that confrontation. Had the bill been flushed out more, with some limits and control, I feel it would have a better chance of passing.

I'd love to see it pass as written..but I just don't think it will. Should have asked for a smaller bite at the apple.
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Ya know, you may very well be right but how much longer do we continue asking for a "a smaller bite at the apple"?

I for one, can't wait to see what happens in november. If it passes or not, I'm excited that the discussion is getting serious enough that we are voting on it!
 
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tomcatjones

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TO BE CLEAR.

we had 1 thread about this already.

WHY HAVE 2??

petitions are in my hands.

up north. wanna sign it or be a volunteer? PM

or we can arrange a RIU petition signing event. i don't care.


there are no limitations on this bob because well that inst how the effing process works..

once this is passed this basically makes the parts which reference marijuana in the mi public health code null and void.

thus would leave the regulation, taxation, size of grow, allowable amounts etc etc etc etc.. will up to the townships and counties.

take a state and local government course Bob. i can tutor you if you like.
 
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jonnynobody

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tomcatjones said:
TO BE CLEAR.

we had 1 thread about this already.

WHY HAVE 2??

petitions are in my hands.

up north. wanna sign it or be a volunteer? PM

or we can arrange a RIU petition signing event. i don't care.


there are no limitations on this bob because well that inst how the effing process works..

once this is passed this basically makes the parts which reference marijuana in the mi public health code null and void.

thus would leave the regulation, taxation, size of grow, allowable amounts etc etc etc etc.. will up to the townships and counties.

take a state and local government course Bob. i can tutor you if you like.
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I didn't know there was another thread on this already or I'd have continued the discussion there....

Certainly you shouldn't complain about more exposure and discussion though eh? :)

I'd love a legit copy of the petition that I could collect signatures for....it's exciting to be part of this!
 
st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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tomcatjones said:
TO BE CLEAR.

we had 1 thread about this already.

WHY HAVE 2??

petitions are in my hands.

up north. wanna sign it or be a volunteer? PM

or we can arrange a RIU petition signing event. i don't care.


there are no limitations on this bob because well that inst how the effing process works..

once this is passed this basically makes the parts which reference marijuana in the mi public health code null and void.

thus would leave the regulation, taxation, size of grow, allowable amounts etc etc etc etc.. will up to the townships and counties.

take a state and local government course Bob. i can tutor you if you like.
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"that isn't how the effing process works"

Ok, cool. Since you seem to be an expert on the effing process, can you educate the rest of us idiots on this?
 
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