at a loss.....

That's cuz you aren't well read in history


No but you mention this tweed caped handsome devil and I've never associated with him

Should I?

Idk mr sunshine said he was cooler than me and I don't want him shoving me in a locker or knocking ny books out of my hands
 
oh crap, how much and how long did you drink before you had liver problems? ive been drinking every night for a while now
 
lol, the self-quoting.

And yeah... the drinker has to stop himself. That's pretty much the only way. And the only way that'll happen, is if they actually want to.

My own bout with alcohol dependency was short but intense. One day, i had enough feeling terrible and decided not to drink anymore.

No one told me, no one made me, nothing prevented access... i just allowed myself to realize the association between the drink and the terrible internal distress, and knew i didn't want to do that to myself anymore, at all, ever. I had like, one, on a couple of occasions, after i made the decision. Haven't had a drop in years now. I've only had the craving a few times since, and it was easy to beat.

The drinker has to get themselves to that place first. Sometimes that's an ugly ride.

The harsh reality is that not everyone gets to make it.

Sometimes you have to watch friends/family destroyed, or destroy themselves, or even others, unduly. Sometimes you don't have to watch, but you'll still have to know.

All you can do is care and be available, and try to help if you get the opportunity to do so.
 
Sorry about your friend and all, but this is the stupidest fucking thread that I've read all year.

That's actually impressive.

You 1upped yourself mainliner, pat yourself on the back?
 
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