hey there Subtlechaos, I'm glad you brought this up. I recently had a batch of Church seeds that also had lousy germination rates. Only half of them germed. I usually get 95%-100% germination rate for my seeds. With quite a few people complaining about the same strain, it's rather obvious it isn't just the lot of us being unable to properly germinate a seed. Now while I am aware that Attitude is not responsible for the seeds being bad, they are responsible for how they deal with an unsatisfied customer. For myself - I emailed them twice, and did not get any response whatsoever. Not even a "fuck off", so to speak. If anyone was wondering, no, I did not say anything about germination or growing, in my emails. Nor anything else that could be construed as illegal. They did not even have the common courtesy to reply to me, in any way! That is something that Attitude is totally responsible for, and I think it's bullshit. I've spent hundreds of dollars with them, and no one can even speak to me? Whatever. I'll go elsewhere.