Bag seed to good weed through trial and error.

farmersmurf said:

Seems like to me I read that somewhere what I posed. Its alot of work (not really) to getting back to original plant. NO DISRESPECT to your post bro you just love weed we all do im just not smoking right now or plan to grow for awhile but this forum is keeping me occupied so I don't care! Anyway, yeah it's a little work to getting back to the mother plant I read up on growing pot for ten years before I ever grew it. I was so afraid of getting caught, or becoming an epic fail at it. My first plant I grew was 6 ft tall. I used 10-10-10 and I thnk 20-20-20. But the ratio that is setup for nutes specifically for pot are WAAY better. I pullled my plant to early but I bet the buds would have been something. They were all swole up and crazy looking. Anyway, try it my way I "think" im right. Look it up and researc some. You have to clone several times before returning bak to the mother plant it may only be two clones just search the web I BET YOU wILL find it!

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Serapis said:

I wouldn't call a seed from a known strain 'bagseed', regardless of how it was obtained. Bagseed generally refers to schwag weed seed. If you find one seed in an ounce, chances are extremely high that if you grow it and get a fem, it will be potent shit. If you buy an ounce and get 400 seeds, good luck with all of that.... they'll be shit weed....

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avier101 said:

I have been doing this for over five years. Yes, I have no idea if the seed will be any good in the end. But over the years I have came across six keepers out of hundreds. Serapis you are 100% corrrect. You can not grow bud with a 25% THC content out of a seed that came from compressed dirt weed. Its scientificly impossible. I have grown hundreds of plants and only got six that I have kept and keep growen from. Another five years and I might only get another 2,3,4 or six really good plants. Its just a tedious method of weening out the bad smoke from the good smoke. For example. My one friend smokes weed and everytime he finds a seed he throws it into a bag. Last week he bought a bag a purple haze, then a bag a sour D, then a bag of white widow, and a few bags of regs. Out of the first three mentioned he wil be lucky to find two or three seeds out of them. But the regs he will find a boat load. The problem is the seeds are all mixed together. I then germinate all the seeds and go through the process. The odds are I will only come up with the regs not the white widow. Thats why doing this for five years I have only got 6 good plants. It takes patience lots of patience. But I think it is fun. If you dont Serapis, I could care a less. Serapis there is this channel on TV called current. They have a show called Vangaurd. They had a two part series about how marijuana is being grown in the United States and Mexico. Believe me the farmers take good care of the plants. They come familes that have been growen weed for generations. They are unbelievabley good at growen. They pick out the males from the females. Top the plants and certain LST methods. They have guys that stay in the fields all season long. They never leave. People bring them thier food and water. One of the guys can look over a seed and tell if it is a male or female seed. He was correct 95% of the time. How he did it I have no idea, but he did it. They tested the weed and it had a THC level of 21%. If I am correct that is a very high level. They take great care of thier fields. I dont take seeds from compressed brick weed that has sat on a boat for 3 months then on a truck for a few weeks and then a ware house were rats and mice piss all over the stuff. I take bag seeds I know came from decent regs or top shelf weed. I know what I am doing. This site is getting crazy. You talk about something and people just try to make you look stupid. Thats why marijuana will never be legalized because most, not all, people that smoke have no unity. If you do not like what I write then ignore it. If I say something that is totaly incorrect then correct me with the correct information and do it politely. People do not have to be assholes. I have grown 6 mind blowing plants. I went on a fishing expedition and it took me 5 years to find 6 big fish. What I do can not be done over night. It takes time and dedication. So if you can not take the heat Serapis get the hell out the kitchen. You can do it your way and I can do it mine. If I did not like what I do I would change it. I like doing it my way because it is fun. I could go the easy route and buy some seeds that might not get through customs. For me there would be no fun in that and I would be pissed if the feds got my seeds. Where I live we can not go and buy some clones a few blocks away. All we have is seeds from the internet or bag seeds. My method has paid off and if you lived anywhere close to me you would be smoking my shit. We could smoke a bong together. Thats how it should be. I have met some really nice people on this site. But sadly most if not all of them are not on this site anymore because they got tired of the know-it-alls putting them down. I am starting to feel the same way. It should not be like that. If you have nothing positive to say to someone then keep your fingers from typing.

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WestAussie said:

No he's wrong, as you well spotted.

If a plant (plant A) gives you 200 seeds or more, none of them are genetically the same. It's all thanks to meiosis. That's the point of sexual reproduction. Even feminised seeds are different from one another. They are a randomised combination of the parent's(') DNA.

So when you plant a seed from Plant A, that we will call Plant B, any clone you take from Plant B will still be cultivar (variety) Plant B. You can't go back, really, 'cause the DNA has been recombined. Any seed from Plant B will be Plant C or any other name you chose to give it. Just not Plant A or B.

Highschool biology.

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TaoWolf said:

I think you are thinking of backcrossing (<-link). But that doesn't have anything to do with cloning/taking cuttings really. Plant sex is required to backcross.

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WestAussie said:

No he's wrong, as you well spotted.

sorry for the misleading info. I tried that's all I can say lol. Pick up the " marijuana growers bible" that's where I " tried " to remember the info from. Again very sorry for the misleading info you could say I was in the right church but wrong pugh

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Harrekin said:

I dont agree Serapis, I think the upper limit for THC production is determined by genetics, so regardless of whether it was shit weed or not, you could you have a plant with AMAZING genetic potential.

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Serapis said:

The odds of growing mind blowing smoke from bagseed is not good. There is a chance you run across a bag of a seeded good smoke, but most of the time, seeded weed is grown outdoors from shitty strains, left unattended until harvest, with a little thc value. If you get a seed from a plant like that, i don't care what your science is, you are not going to improve the genetics. What you are describing is getting lucky with a bagseed and cloning the hell out of it. That doesn't mean you are still growing bagseed.... Go ahead and keep obtaining seeds from bags... you'll grow much more shit than you will treasure..[/QU

how do u get off saying to this guy that growing crap when he clearly states that its good ??? if he enjoys doing it this way then more power to him

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