Balls Out First Grow(Whie Widow Scrog, 430w Son Agro Aircooled, DWC, CO2)

Bob Smith said:

Yowsers.........might wanna change your screen name to the "mad scientist".........but whatever works, right?

As an aside, what were your issues with GH?

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I just couldnt get a mix right that my plants liked. I tried their mix ratios at various strengths and a few custom mixes of my own and none of them made my plants as healthy as I wanted. I also wanted to use organics to see if the flavor would improve and for medical quality herb.

tom__420 said:

Dude really awesome grow, your setup is killer
Very clean and dialed in the way it should be haha
I just want to let you know that in all the time I have been here at rollitup,
this pic I think is the one that I favor the most:

That is what you can call perfection bro
I will be trying to hack the system and give you 2 dozen reps, you really deserve it
Lol j/k on hacking the system but you def get my rep!

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Thanks a lot. I'm glad you like it. I know I enjoy smoking it. Burning one in your honor.

Integra21 said:

Thanks a lot. I'm glad you like it. I know I enjoy smoking it. Burning one in your honor.

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50 bucks says if you send that to like high times or skunk you will make the mag if not i will put 50 bucks in your paypal account!!! and how i missed that pic ill never no thats a very nice site right there and what i consider med grade earb peace bro and +rep again!kiss-ass

I must spread more rep first dam it +rep fuck you you little fucking scale thingy

Yeah, I'm sure there is a lot of good info you might find helpful if you make it all the way though. Lucky for you, there are more updates than posts, so you get to see a lot of pics.

send it to the mag im tellin you do it

Hey Interga, just droppin gby, love what you done with the moldy bud. I have a tub full of bud that got mildew'd from my last harvest so will be trying out the hash technique you have shown. It's so nasty to see moldy buds, but if you can get tasty cookies from it then why not!!! Will let you know how it goes.

DST said:

Hey Interga, just droppin gby, love what you done with the moldy bud. I have a tub full of bud that got mildew'd from my last harvest so will be trying out the hash technique you have shown. It's so nasty to see moldy buds, but if you can get tasty cookies from it then why not!!! Will let you know how it goes.

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Cool. Hope it works as well for you as me. The key to it turning out so well was a fine mesh strainer that was at the store for $8. Let me know how it goes.

Ok. I'll start with the grusome pics and then fill you in on all of the details.



As you can see my plants pretty much just up and died over nite. It is my best guess that adding the General Hydroponics new General Organgics Boi Root and Calmag to my Fox Farm Lineup caused some sort of chemical reaction. I always test new nutrients on unimportant plants, but thought it was unnessisary for adding calmag and a root booster. What a mistake. The day before yesterday, I did a res change. When I woke up yesterday the plants looked mostly fine, but a little saggy. Had a high ph, but this usually happens to me the next day after a res change. Went on about my business. Came back about 6 hours later, and it pretty much looked like it does in the pics. I paniced and tried to do the only thing I could think of. I mixed up a batch of ro and h202 and changed to that. Let it sit for about 2 hours, and then did another change to strait water to flush h202 out, since I grow in organic. Then mixed up a batch of new nutrients minus the Bio Root and Calmag. Let it sit over night, and took these pics when I got up. I dont think they're comming back from this. I have never seen plants look this bad.

If someone things they will recover, Speak up. Otherwise I am starting the hacking here in a little while.

But all is not lost. I have 2 clones that were sexing next to the other plants that just happened to both be female. ! is my mango and the other my Blue Mystic. I also Have a Mango clone ready to flower on the side that is almost 3 feet tall and would fill out most of my screen. Looking to get those in today, unless anyone thinks I should wait out the Kush plants another day or 2 and see if they recover.

Well, they have been officially chopped down. Working on cleaning the tub and moving my 2 Mango and 1 Blue Mystic in there. I will post a pic update when I finish. I'm trying to make the best of this unforeseen mishap. Hope this serves as a caution for anyone trying new nutrients. Always test them out before you introduce them to your main grow or the results can be catastrophic. Even if it is just small adatives. Back to the ole drawing board. I'm really dissappointed though, I wanted a nice pile of this kush, and now I'll have to wait.

Only on page 6 but already very impressed, subscribed. By the way you have the coolest area for your grow, i wish i had a crawlspace in the back of a closet like you have.. i mean DAMNN.. thats james bond style

So that was due to adding the BioRoot and CaMg+ ?
Sorry to hear man, that is crazy I have never seen that happen like that that quickly
Are you going to be using those on these new plants or switching to something else?
You should try rooting one of those tops just for shits and giggles
Worst comes to worst you are at where you are now with the chopped plants,
best case is that it roots and you save the genetics

tom__420 said:

So that was due to adding the BioRoot and CaMg+ ?
Sorry to hear man, that is crazy I have never seen that happen like that that quickly
Are you going to be using those on these new plants or switching to something else?
You should try rooting one of those tops just for shits and giggles
Worst comes to worst you are at where you are now with the chopped plants,
best case is that it roots and you save the genetics

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Thanks for the input. Not worried about the cuttings. I still have the mom, so the genetics are fine. Would never want to loose this strain. It is to rare and hard to find. I too had never seen plants go to crap so fast. The weird part is that I used the same nutrient soup in the cloning tub, and yes the res smells and looks like shit, but the plants look fine. Guess they're more durable. I am debating making hash with them because they are frosty all over. But only if I have time, since it wont be that good, since it is so early into flowering. I will continue using the foxfarm line just without the general organics stuff for now.

Yeah if you can't make hash now you can just dry it out and save it for your next harvest to mix the two together or something
That way this loss isn't a total loss, you get some hash out of it at some point

I was thinking about doing it and miixing it in with the hash I made a week ago. Might add a head high to it. Right now, got the room and tub cleaned out. Just modified my tub so I can hook my pump to it to keep the nutrient solution circulating instead of just using it to drain and fill. I was told this is a good idea with organic dwc. Just working of mixing up a new batch of nutes and getting the new tub situated and making sure the new valave doesnt leak. Should have fresh pics up in a couple of hours.

Yeah I noticed with Fox Farms that there was some major settling if the water wasn't moving enough
Looking forward to the pics

Another full day of work. I cut down all of my Blue Kush Clones. Cleaned the room out and gave the tub a good scrub. I added a second t-valve to the opposite side of the tub so I could hook the pump I use to drain it up and circulate the nutrients so they dont settle. This actually makes a pretty sturdy current in the tub since it is a 350gph pump. I had my Blue Mystic and Mango clones sexing under a cfl. I lollied them a week ago. I also had a 3 foot Mango clone just vegging in my clone tub. I went back to My foxfarm mix without the Bio Root and Calmag and I'll leave it at that for the rest of the grow. I worke the tall Mango into the screen and am curious to see how big it gets since I have never flowered a plant this big in my grow room. Not to worried about the other 2 small ones since they only need 1 screen slot per plant. I have half of my new veg room built and will have a pic update of that soon in the next few days. I was hoping to finish it today, but with redoing the hole flower room, i just couldnt find the time. Here's the Pics....

I took some more pics with the lights off. It will be interesting the next few weeks to see how big the big one gets. To top it off I'm going out of town next week, so the person watching my room will actually have to do some screen training. I still am trying to figure out what the next batch will be. I'm thinking I might give the kush another go, just because I really like that herb. I've heard good things about mango, but have never smoked it. This will be my first fruit variety.

Glad to see you got all set back up there Integra. Sorry to hear about the loss again! That really blows. Good thing you still have the mama though!

Looks like your going to have quite a nice harvest there when they decide to go boom!

Burn on!