Balls to the Wall grow, Riddleme Gets Serious

Old Goat

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I think we're pretty much on the same page. One thing though as I looked very close the Pistols in lesser light have less of an issue. Everything will get a good flush/ water/ light nutes. Just because! Plus I'll lift the light to 18".
I do appreicate you both in answering. As they say on the evening news... Film at 11.
 

riddleme

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Drowning Cure Update

Did a ditty on the proper ways to cure awhile back (page 41 calling all noob growers thread) in that ditty I proved a hippie myth to be true and subsequent reports from others indicate that it is working very well

I had a friend do it to his last harvest, he drowned em for 12 days, then dried em for 2 weeks (nice slow dry) then in jars for less than a day I got a sample and gotta tell ya, I am impressed. Burns great no popping, taste great, no hay or chlorophyll taste, nice slow creeping high (it was a sativa)

so if you have not yet read the ditty,,,,,you should
 

riddleme

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plants got rain this morning w/molasses everything holding steady, lights are now up to 17/7 will post pics on Sat.
 

riddleme

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plants responding and growing nicely, #4 is catching up (1 node behind)

there is nothing quite like being in control of the temps, I have played with different temp settings to watch the plants reaction (ranges from 79 to 84) they very definately are responding to the heat as I see more growth when the heater is on as opposed to being off (yes I have left it off for a few days) figured now was the time to play with this, while they are young

here are the pics, enjoy
 

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purplecream

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Amazing grow riddleme, i've read some of your other post and they're really helpful. Anyway you say your lights are 17/7, !7 on or off? Just curious.
 

Tarkfu

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Just a thought, but to go along with the idea of simulating nature, how about a way for the lights to dim and brighten instead of just BAM all the light on and BAM all the light off. Maybe slowly brighten for like an hour when they come on and slowly dim for an hour going off or something. To simulate dawn and dusk.
 

riddleme

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not necessary, as the light going Bam on and Bam off is no different than sun going behind a cloud and comin back out, plants are used to that. I do the hour thing to build better root systems
 

riddleme

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I top dressed the pots with dolomite (1/2 teaspoon per pot) then covered it with another 1/2 inch of new soil, not because there is a problem but rather to get ready for the long haul, so to speak

and, the babies got their first dose of jack's this morning (1/4 strength) mixed in with their rain, weening them onto it slowly
 

xshooterx

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Hey Riddle, subscribed and eager to learn! Now, first, if you plan on getting some good bud porn, you gotta know how to get pics with the hero (subject) in focus. Looks like your previous images were either too close for your camera settings or your camera is back focusing. If your camera has a macro setting (may be indicated with a flower icon) use that when shooting a subject say 1 to 2 feet away. Also, you need to know where your camera is "looking" for focus; generally set to the center of the viewing area, but can be set off center. The focus point is usually indicated by a square or rectangle HUD symbol. Nice to have a daylight balanced light source (CMH) for good color balance though. A little post processing of digital images can make a big difference... can be a time suck though [;)

Well, the on going saga of my poor abused little girls, little miss sativa and indica is sad but plodding along. IMG_0391.jpgIMG_0390.jpg


Can you believe they are 2 months old! I'm not sure how I locked these poor girls up but I did real good LOL. The indica on the left has been treated the same as the sativa.

Oops, wife just reminded me I promised her Belgian waffles for breakfast... gotta go cook. I will be back in a couple hours.
 

riddleme

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Hey Riddle, subscribed and eager to learn! Now, first, if you plan on getting some good bud porn, you gotta know how to get pics with the hero (subject) in focus. Looks like your previous images were either too close for your camera settings or your camera is back focusing. If your camera has a macro setting (may be indicated with a flower icon) use that when shooting a subject say 1 to 2 feet away. Also, you need to know where your camera is "looking" for focus; generally set to the center of the viewing area, but can be set off center. The focus point is usually indicated by a square or rectangle HUD symbol. Nice to have a daylight balanced light source (CMH) for good color balance though. A little post processing of digital images can make a big difference... can be a time suck though [;)

Well, the on going saga of my poor abused little girls, little miss sativa and indica is sad but plodding along. View attachment 1075018View attachment 1075019


Can you believe they are 2 months old! I'm not sure how I locked these poor girls up but I did real good LOL. The indica on the left has been treated the same as the sativa.

Oops, wife just reminded me I promised her Belgian waffles for breakfast... gotta go cook. I will be back in a couple hours.
Couple of things, I see you only have 2 post so I want to let you know that it is wrong to post pics of your plants in other peoples grow journals without asking. Now me I don't really care but others might get upset

2nd they are seedlings, so i don't care about the focus as much, my intent is to show the internode spaceing and they do that, as for bud porn I have attached some from my last grow to show you that I can take pics :hump:

finally, you should seriously consider starting over, those plants are in pretty sad shape
 

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xshooterx

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Sorry Riddle, I didn't mean to sound too critical there. But, I guess what I wrote could be read that way. Been in the photography business for about 30 years and I sometimes don't know how act around regular people 8] Now I will dig myself in a little deeper and say that the pics you just posted of those beauties could use some sharpening... would really make them POP!... and now I am running and ducking.

Thanks for letting me know about posting pics, I truly thought it was okay.

As for my poor abused little girls. Yeah, I know they probably should have gone in the compost bin weeks ago. I remember reading a post by UB a while back about how he got a clone from a guy. The clone was pretty much gone, but UB workrd his magic and brought it back. Now I am no UB nor will I ever be
but I am still hangin with these two sad little girls. I am sure I will learn something useful; already have!

I very much appreciate your shared efforts here Riddle.

Peace Bro
 

Danielsgb

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So I have one for everyone to hear about. My sister had a few dates with a local caregiver. She thought we might 'click'. Oh, real hard guess there, cause you can't talk NPK's, and soil mixes, with many people. In person, not all my friends here, of course. So Friday, I went to see his shop and grow rooms. Nice, but with things different than I would do, of course. His Veg room he had two 400 HPS, one of them on a mover. I start into 'Oh my God' go to CMH. We talked for a while, and I invited him for a BBQ Sat. night to see my set up.
When He saw my Veg table under my 400W, His reply, "Wow, your node spacing is as tight as you said". I replied, "Yea now imagine flowering, this is just my veg table" A bit later, I said order two of those right away. He said, with the new investor he's going to fifty 1000W, so he'll be ordering more than two.
I think I made him 'See the light' I thought you might like that story. Here's a Pic of my veg under my 400W.
Daniels:weed:
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riddleme

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So I have one for everyone to hear about. My sister had a few dates with a local caregiver. She thought we might 'click'. Oh, real hard guess there, cause you can't talk NPK's, and soil mixes, with many people. In person, not all my friends here, of course. So Friday, I went to see his shop and grow rooms. Nice, but with things different than I would do, of course. His Veg room he had two 400 HPS, one of them on a mover. I start into 'Oh my God' go to CMH. We talked for a while, and I invited him for a BBQ Sat. night to see my set up.
When He saw my Veg table under my 400W, His reply, "Wow, your node spacing is as tight as you said". I replied, "Yea now imagine flowering, this is just my veg table" A bit later, I said order two of those right away. He said, with the new investor he's going to fifty 1000W, so he'll be ordering more than two.
I think I made him 'See the light' I thought you might like that story. Here's a Pic of my veg under my 400W.
Daniels:weed:
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very nice, both the story and the plants
 

riddleme

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took update pics for end of week 2 Sat morning, here it is Mon morning 2 days later and after the tiny taste of Jack's (all purpose 20-20-20) this is plant #2 and I am reposting the pic from Sat morning for comparison, as you can see a pretty nice growth spurt, they will get rain again tomorrow it is holding steady every 3 days
 

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cowboylogic

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Nice little fatties you have started.

But I have to say this. I love my CMH's. And am very impressed at there performance so far. But.......... The 600 Hortilux end of the flower room is visually beefing up better than the 400 CMH end. And right down the middle things are happy. They are happy on both ends but right now a month in. The Hortilux has the edge. And the OB solo under a 400 CMH looks fantastic. Nice full, firm buds. Great resin production and the smell is amazing. But knowing this strain as well as i do. I think I could have gotten a bit more beef out of her is I would have switched to HPS the last 2 or 3 weeks.
 

desertrat

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Nice little fatties you have started.

But I have to say this. I love my CMH's. And am very impressed at there performance so far. But.......... The 600 Hortilux end of the flower room is visually beefing up better than the 400 CMH end. And right down the middle things are happy. They are happy on both ends but right now a month in. The Hortilux has the edge. And the OB solo under a 400 CMH looks fantastic. Nice full, firm buds. Great resin production and the smell is amazing. But knowing this strain as well as i do. I think I could have gotten a bit more beef out of her is I would have switched to HPS the last 2 or 3 weeks.
Wouldnt you expect a 600 watt hps light to out perform a broad spectrum 400 watt light in flowering, all other things equal? Even if the cmh was better on a per watt basis it's probably not going to overcome a 33% deficit in power, no?
 

riddleme

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Nice little fatties you have started.

But I have to say this. I love my CMH's. And am very impressed at there performance so far. But.......... The 600 Hortilux end of the flower room is visually beefing up better than the 400 CMH end. And right down the middle things are happy. They are happy on both ends but right now a month in. The Hortilux has the edge. And the OB solo under a 400 CMH looks fantastic. Nice full, firm buds. Great resin production and the smell is amazing. But knowing this strain as well as i do. I think I could have gotten a bit more beef out of her is I would have switched to HPS the last 2 or 3 weeks.
This is exactly why I am doing the IR heat experiment since most things I have read compare a 400 watt CMH to a 600 watt hps, (performance wise) granted most reports are that the buds are a bit smaller but that the quality is better (trich & resin production) I believe that the heat is the main difference, hence the experiment, we shall see???
 
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