Barney's Farm - Tangerine Dream - Waterfarm!

Looking ridiculous, Dayzt. What's it like to a have a forest in a box?

Question! What kind of bulb are you using and is this the first grow it's being used for? Thanks in advance.

kriznarf said:

Looking ridiculous, Dayzt. What's it like to a have a forest in a box?

Question! What kind of bulb are you using and is this the first grow it's being used for? Thanks in advance.

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Ha ha - forest in a box, I like it! I definitely wasn't expecting it to get this large - was a bit worried about height at first, seeing some other peeps' grows... but the stretching seems to have been managable thanks to the early LST work - worth every tie-down!

The bulb I'm using is Hortilux Eye 370w HPS conversion bulb (I think that's the correct wattage in the name) - better known as the Hortilux 400w HPS conversion bulb. I have a MH ballast (as you already knew), so I had to buy this conversion bulb in order to get the HPS light for flowering. It's on it's 4th or 5th grow now, as I haven't used it for my past few grows since upgrading to the 600w lights for flowering in my bigger tent. It's probably on it's last full grow, but I may still use it in this smaller tent later on, not sure yet. My goal right now is to get this grow completed successfully and then setup my 2 waterfarms in the big tent which is a bit over twice the size of this tent. The big tent has 2x 600w cooltube lights in it, with the switchable ballasts (work with bot MH and HPS). I need to get a blower fan for the bigger tent in order to vent both lights properly and filter it at the same time.

Dayzt said:

Ha ha - forest in a box, I like it! I definitely wasn't expecting it to get this large - was a bit worried about height at first, seeing some other peeps' grows... but the stretching seems to have been managable thanks to the early LST work - worth every tie-down!

The bulb I'm using is Hortilux Eye 370w HPS conversion bulb (I think that's the correct wattage in the name) - better known as the Hortilux 400w HPS conversion bulb. I have a MH ballast (as you already knew), so I had to buy this conversion bulb in order to get the HPS light for flowering. It's on it's 4th or 5th grow now, as I haven't used it for my past few grows since upgrading to the 600w lights for flowering in my bigger tent. It's probably on it's last full grow, but I may still use it in this smaller tent later on, not sure yet. My goal right now is to get this grow completed successfully and then setup my 2 waterfarms in the big tent which is a bit over twice the size of this tent. The big tent has 2x 600w cooltube lights in it, with the switchable ballasts (work with bot MH and HPS). I need to get a blower fan for the bigger tent in order to vent both lights properly and filter it at the same time.

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4th or 5th grow? That's awesome. I'd been told that bulbs were really only good for two (maybe three) grows before the drop in output becomes too significant. I was debating ordering some fresh bulbs, though I've only used my current 400w hps for a single grow.

kriznarf said:

4th or 5th grow? That's awesome. I'd been told that bulbs were really only good for two (maybe three) grows before the drop in output becomes too significant. I was debating ordering some fresh bulbs, though I've only used my current 400w hps for a single grow.

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I guess so - but now that you mention it, you're right - I likely need to change that bulb out! This grow started out with a 600w HPS bulb in this light setup - even though it's a 400w MH ballast - which obviously only puts out 400 watts. I know it's the wrong bulb, but it was what I had to use at the start... then that bulb burnt out on me (kind of a cheapy MH bulb I got together with my 600 w lights) and I had to put in my conversion bulb since it was all I had. So I ended up switching from MH to HPS about 2/3 of the way through veg - but the plant didn't seem to mind.

So.... to make a long story even longer..lol...I plan to finish off this grow with this conversion bulb and then I'll be getting 2 new 600w HPS bulbs for the big tent before starting the next grow. I think I'm going to go with HPS all the way through the next grow - at least that's the plan thus far...

Wow, thanks for the heads-up man - I wasn't even thinking about the loss of lumens from using the light for this long... thanks!! +rep to u!

I know it's only 2 days since the last pic update, but I finally was able to get my filter installed this evening and it was a prime time to get some quick shots. The HPS light once again doesn't allow for the greatest pictures, but I played around with a few of these and tried some color and contrast/lighting filters - some helped a bit but overall still kinda yellow... Enjoy!!

A few overall shots..





A shot of the newly installed filter...



More various bud shots and group shots...

Look at those leaning towers! You're going to have to tie those stalks at some point. Glad to see how much they're thickening out. Even when I expect to see something awesome, your grow exceeds my expectations.

Hi D, I got the same words as kriznarf "Even when I expect to see something awesome, your grow exceeds my expectations."
Nice job with the filter... do they smell already?
Amazing grow !!!!!! Thanks for the pictures we love pictures..

D, keep the eye on the buds all the time cheeking for anything wired ...sorry I'm getting paranoid with all those people complaining about Barney's....I personally never had a problem with Barney's, always heavy yielder nice strong plants and excellent smoke.

kriznarf said:

Look at those leaning towers! You're going to have to tie those stalks at some point. Glad to see how much they're thickening out. Even when I expect to see something awesome, your grow exceeds my expectations.

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Thanks so much for the compliments! Isn't that just the best problem to have though? As they start to pack on the weight, I can see that I'll be stringing a lot of these up for sure - I'll be starting to tie up a few this evening already otherwise I won't be able to reach them once they all start toppling over at once...lol. Any guesses on total dry weight yet?

budhuger said:

Hi D, I got the same words as kriznarf "Even when I expect to see something awesome, your grow exceeds my expectations."
Nice job with the filter... do they smell already?
Amazing grow !!!!!! Thanks for the pictures we love pictures..

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budhuger said:

D, keep the eye on the buds all the time cheeking for anything wired ...sorry I'm getting paranoid with all those people complaining about Barney's....I personally never had a problem with Barney's, always heavy yielder nice strong plants and excellent smoke.

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Thanks budhuger - It's a lot of fun taking pics of this plant, and each day it looks fatter, especially these past few weeks. The smell was starting to 'permeate' our house and you could smell it upstairs early in the mornings just before the lights went out - which was the exact time the chimney fan would shut-off. Now the top chimney fan is removed and then tent is venting through the filter. The smell is very fresh and 'orangy' smelling - I suppose it could be a Tangerine smell, but I really don't know what Tangerines smell like..lol.

As long as I can keep this girl standing up, everything should finish off great! And yeah, we're both in the same boat with luck using Barney's... I've had extremely good luck with almost all of the strains of theirs I've tried so far. But with this being my first go at 'dro, I'm especially impressed with yet again a nice, vigorous strain from the farm! I'm getting excited to see how the Vanilla Kush will turn out in the waterfarm below the screen under a 600w - we shall see!

I just finished spending about an hour tieing up tops on the plant this evening - after being elbow-to-shoulder deep in the plant, my arms are super-sticky and fruity smelling!!

Hey Dazyt, I 'm on the same grow as you with TD and I'm about 3 weeks into 12/12, I wanted to know how much stretch you encountered with yours. I'm just about at 2.5 feet of stretch and don't have much more room unless I tie more down

end prohibition said:

Hey Dazyt, I 'm on the same grow as you with TD and I'm about 3 weeks into 12/12, I wanted to know how much stretch you encountered with yours. I'm just about at 2.5 feet of stretch and don't have much more room unless I tie more down

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Hey man - welcome! My girl stretched as much as 3 feet above the screen, and probably went through close to 3 and a half weeks of stretch before it slowed and stopped. It sounds like you should have pretty much reached the end of your stretch, but it's hard to compare to mine since I trained this plant almost completely horizontally for the first 4-6 weeks of veg in order to fill my whole screen.

Thanks for the info..very helpful to that i know the stretch should be slowing down very soon. I'm growing in smart pots (1gal) using advanced nutes. I will load some pics so you can check them out. This is the first time I grew a sativa so i wasn't to sure what to expect. I usually stick with the indica.

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Thanks for the info..very helpful to that i know the stretch should be slowing down very soon. I'm growing in smart pots (1gal) using advanced nutes. I will load some pics so you can check them out. This is the first time I grew a sativa so i wasn't to sure what to expect. I usually stick with the indica.

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Me too bro - normally I've got a more indica dom strain - this is only the second time I've grown something with this much sativa in it (Pineapple Chunk was the last one - threw me for a loop and ended up a not so good result). But there appears to be enough of the G13 influence in this pheno, as the buds are starting to fill out better now, and as budhuger said - the nodes are nice and close together, so it's a good sign that the yield will be a bit better with the indica influence in there doing it's thing! So far so good!

Look for more pics after this weekend - was going to do some last night but decided there wasn't enough of a change yet to make it worth posting.

Been 5 days time for new pics!

Keep it up bro ur killing it...How far along r u in flowering??

Hey guys - here we are at the end of week 7 of flowering... Everything is coming along good - I've had to tie up a lot of the tops, a few to the light and others across the canopy from each other to hold one another up - works nice!

Enjoy the pics!

I've seen less green in rainforests! Looking great, Dayzt. Seven weeks into flower and still a ton of fresh pistils. So much fattening up left to go. I've read about Tangerine Dream (like many other sativas, I would imagine,) taking a long time to finish. I hear it's definitely worth the wait, though.

What are your thoughts regarding some of the brown tips on the leaves (especially notable in the 3rd picture.) Just a little nute burn? Under control?

Hi D, is looking great, still long way to go, this sativas tend to pack on the last weeks and I think you definitely go over a lb.
The plant still very green, I think its going to take like 4+ weeks more.
Thanks for the pictures, keep them coming......Nice grow!!!

Amazing grow I just hope they fill in and then I'll def pick up a pack. You have more bud on that then my ten plants combined