Basalt rock dust

GentleCaveman

GentleCaveman

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jrelax said:
I know that Seer Rock Dust works

I know one who grows Commercial eko controlled and lab tested salad farm outside summertimes.

This is one old grower.

They have found that the Salad got much better nutrients and is more healthy for human to eat if they use this Seer Rock Dust.
This is labtested thing.
Also the Salad grows little faster, and healthier they told.

I have use this when i grow cannabis self.
And i love the results.
My plants is so healthy and green.
I grow organic in soil indoors.

I use to mix this in my soil from beginning.
I also make tea that i let bubble 7days and i use this to wet up coco that i have in my soil mix.
This 7days old teamix with Rock Dust is pretty much activated i believe, the coco has no nutes from beginning, så this is good thing also to boost the grow.
Have something in the water you wet up the dry coco with you have in your soilmix. And something that does not burn also the roots like this Rock Dust.

This is cheap.
I know for 100% it does not hurt plants.
What i know it is good for SALAD grow for humans that you eat. I have seen the lab results self from that Salad grower.
And he is Verified Eko Grower, commersial professional.
And the Salad got also a little bit more harvest with this Seer Rock Dust they say.

My own experiences with Rock Dust:
My plants never look this healthy and green before.
Rock Dust works for me.
Seer is the brand i use:
seercentre.org.uk/about-us

WARNING:
You must be very carefull when mix this.
ROCKDUST is very light weight because it is so Dusty, and stays in air long time.
And rocks is dangerous for lungs to breathe in.
MIX THIS VERY VERY EASY AND SLOW MOVES IN BEGINNING IN TO THE SOIL.
Have breathing mask if you need mix alot ( if your grow is big )
Lift atleast up your T-SHIRT over the mouth and nose when you do this mixing.
This is dangerous mix if you handle it rough and without something that covers breeding
Remember now: Just Take it easy when you mix this and you will be fine :)
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Yo thanks alot for takin your time man. Do they ship in EU or only UK based?
 
jrelax

jrelax

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Go read my edit.

This is awaible in all EU countries.
I live in Denmark self , and we got atleast 4 shops selling this.

I have also been on different other EU based sites in different countries before , and i saw they also sell this Seers.
Read my edit i made in my first post here please

Good luck
 
MustangStudFarm

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GentleCaveman said:
Also about Glacial Rock Dust: Glacial rock is any rock that formed into very smooth circleish shape after tumbling in glacials in ice age. It's obviously more complicated from that but my English doesn't allow me to explain all the detail. It's not a specific rock, it's just any rock that happened to be in that glacial. So how can someone sell product called Glacial Rock Dust without saying what kind rock it actually is?
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The first time that I bought glacial rock dust, it was micronized and had a light brown color. The last time that I bought GRD, it was dark, course, and looked exactly like the basalt that I bought. In my exp, it varies.

Anyways, my take on basalt is that you mostly get Mg out of it and that is not exactly a good thing. The more that I have my soil tested after a botched harvest the more that I think that Ca and Mg should be lower and K higher. They have an antagonistic relationship with eachother and high Ca/Mg locks out K. I recently dealt with a K def.

Also, I talked to Tad Hussey from KIS Organics and he suggested that rock dust does not provide enough trace minerals to be worth the time. I was mad about his response at first, but I let that need "to be right" slip away. I would trust your father the geologist before people on here!!! Anyways, I have the different trace minerals on hand in the form of sulfates. Mn, Zn, and Fe sulfate. Borax and/or boric acid for boron. I only use it if my soil test shows that it is low and I use it very sparingly.
 
GentleCaveman

GentleCaveman

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MustangStudFarm said:
The first time that I bought glacial rock dust, it was micronized and had a light brown color. The last time that I bought GRD, it was dark, course, and looked exactly like the basalt that I bought. In my exp, it varies.

Anyways, my take on basalt is that you mostly get Mg out of it and that is not exactly a good thing. The more that I have my soil tested after a botched harvest the more that I think that Ca and Mg should be lower and K higher. They have an antagonistic relationship with eachother and high Ca/Mg locks out K. I recently dealt with a K def.

Also, I talked to Tad Hussey from KIS Organics and he suggested that rock dust does not provide enough trace minerals to be worth the time. I was mad about his response at first, but I let that need "to be right" slip away. I would trust your father the geologist before people on here!!! Anyways, I have the different trace minerals on hand in the form of sulfates. Mn, Zn, and Fe sulfate. Borax and/or boric acid for boron. I only use it if my soil test shows that it is low and I use it very sparingly.
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I wonder what other benefit rock dusts have that makes them worth to put in to soil. I agree with you by the way.

Rock dusts feel kinda scammy to me Idk. For example Azomite. It didn't exist few years ago, no? Sounds like it was there from beginning but they just recently made it up. My dad didn't even knew what it was, never heard once. You Google it and all you see is bags ready to sell, no history about it no lab tests no nothing.
 
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MustangStudFarm

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GentleCaveman said:
I wonder what other benefit rock dusts have that makes them worth to put in to soil. I agree with you by the way.
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I'm really questioning it myself. I still have some on hand, but what I have read about basalt is that it will release Mg and not much else.

Micronized rock dust maybe??? You know, the stuff that looks like powder. I recently bought greensand that is supposed to be K, Fe, and Mn. Also, Azomite(volcanic ash). I'm getting the idea that dolomite lime and basalt might be only good for Mg. I'm often wrong and the only thing that I am good at is having my soil tested. It gives me a good idea about what inputs do what. It seems like kelp will raise K and Na levels and not much for micronutrients. I found it very hard to raise my trace/micronutrient levels. Now, I'm working on "Base saturation ratios" because my Mg and Ca have been high and K has been low. Apparently, cannabis needs 2x the amount of K compared to normal food crops.
 
MustangStudFarm

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I think that I'll start using greensand in my compost. K, Fe, and Mn would be much welcomed...
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MustangStudFarm

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This is a solubility test, so it is showing lockout. I always have high amounts of P in my compost and I let it freak me out for a while, but I think that I just need to keep up with the micronutients. From what I have read, high P will lock out most of the trace elements/micronutrients.
 
GentleCaveman

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MustangStudFarm said:
This is a solubility test, so it is showing lockout. I always have high amounts of P in my compost and I let it freak me out for a while, but I think that I just need to keep up with the micronutients. From what I have read, high P will lock out most of the trace elements/micronutrients.
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What was in your soil mix when you did the tests? Might use it as guideline since I'm not gonna be able to test my soil any time soon.

By the way can this work other way around? Because I've been giving my plants some high potassium stuff(bokashi banana peel juice, K-Amino from Better Organix) and they started to show just a tiny bit of cal def here and there. If I'm not mistaking with something else atleast. I'll take some pictures and see if it shows on camera.
 
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GentleCaveman

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Not many leaves, just a few. All of them are leaves that are at top. It actually started after me watering with cold water. It was slightly cold to touch so I was like whatever. But I didn't notice it was slightly cold to touch in 12°C room. That means it was really fucking cold. Even one of the big branches of the plant died after that. It's half yellow half green, half of the buds are almost all scraggly looking with orange pistils, other half looks almost normal with white pistils still going. It might be root damage caused by me if it's possible for the plant to react that way. I was sub irrigating with little hose and moved it around in the soil couple times. Felt resistance to it while moving, maybe couple roots went in to the hose like water roots and I ripped them off? I don't know, they doing okay other than those few leaves though. Maybe just a little slow growth but I'm trying to grow 3 plants under single cob so that should be normal.
 

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Pop said maybe Basalt dust could be helping with the insulation from cold on the root zone. Because rock doesn't hold any water or air in it can get heated up on lights on time and release that heat till lights comes on again? He's having hard time finding something that's gonna benefit the plant growth.

But he's sure that you ain't gonna get any nutrients out of Basalt. He says you can't desolve it even in the strongest acid we have. Nothing breaks it down chemically. Unless there is a special type of bacteria that has stronger acid/enzyme then we ever found today, you can't get anything out of Basalt.
 
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GentleCaveman said:
I wonder what other benefit rock dusts have that makes them worth to put in to soil. I agree with you by the way.

Rock dusts feel kinda scammy to me Idk. For example Azomite. It didn't exist few years ago, no? Sounds like it was there from beginning but they just recently made it up. My dad didn't even knew what it was, never heard once. You Google it and all you see is bags ready to sell, no history about it no lab tests no nothing.
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Azomite comes from one particular volcano in Utah and is pretty much unique in the world. The problem was, no one bothered to do an analysis till the middle of the last century. It's been here for several million years, not recently made up, just ignored.

Go a little deeper with Google. On the companys web site there is the history, analysis all the stuff you couldn't find.

Wet
 
GentleCaveman

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Wetdog said:
Azomite comes from one particular volcano in Utah and is pretty much unique in the world. The problem was, no one bothered to do an analysis till the middle of the last century. It's been here for several million years, not recently made up, just ignored.

Go a little deeper with Google. On the companys web site there is the history, analysis all the stuff you couldn't find.

Wet
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I will look it up, not that Azomite is availible for me but I would like to learn whats the exact effets of rock dusts in soil.
 
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GentleCaveman said:
I will look it up, not that Azomite is availible for me but I would like to learn whats the exact effets of rock dusts in soil.
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Mainly to provide minerals and trace elements that normally exist in native soils from eons of weathered and decomposed rock.

There are some really good articles in "Acres" magazine on the roles minerals play in soils and on remineralizing depleted soils. It's mainly about agriculture, but applies to canna growing as well. They do a very good job of explaining all this.

Wet
 
GentleCaveman

GentleCaveman

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Wetdog said:
Mainly to provide minerals and trace elements that normally exist in native soils from eons of weathered and decomposed rock.

There are some really good articles in "Acres" magazine on the roles minerals play in soils and on remineralizing depleted soils. It's mainly about agriculture, but applies to canna growing as well. They do a very good job of explaining all this.

Wet
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Thanks buddy I'll check it out when I have the time.
 
undergr0

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I've read rock dust provides a habitat for bacteria and fungi in the soil. As far as basalt not breaking down, either there is a mistranslation or hes just wrong. It looks like basalt breaks down in soil from physical processes rather than chemical, like erosion on a very small level.
 
ShLUbY

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undergr0 said:
I've read rock dust provides a habitat for bacteria and fungi in the soil. As far as basalt not breaking down, either there is a mistranslation or hes just wrong. It looks like basalt breaks down in soil from physical processes rather than chemical, like erosion on a very small level.
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chemical level happens too. the enzymes fungi and bacteria exude can dissolve minerals.
 
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