Rob Roy
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I live on the top of the hill though, Dingle Balls. First rule of plumbing, "shit flows down hill".
Bernie Sanders 2020
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92x7000/5150
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FUCKING CHRIST!
He cant win as a Democrat either.
And now you just came out and admitted again that his role is to give Trump the presidency.
You need to be banned from life.
Fogdog
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If Bernie's healthcare plan is so great, saves money, improves service and so on.
Why does he force about a hundred million people from healthcare plans they like and into his?
londonfog
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Great sounds like a great time to do a flyby whilst dumping shit
londonfog
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I like mine, so does my wife. Does your daughter have health insurance ?
ttystikk
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Well that's two. 99,999,998 to go.
My family is none of your business. You only bring them up because like this one, you're losing all the rest of your arguments.
londonfog
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FIFY
My daughter brought home her boyfriend for me and the wife to meet during my sons graduation. I like the guy so far. He is headed to Howard law school and seemingly has a good head on his shoulders. I like the fact that he did not try or attempt to be something he is not. In fact he was honest about himself and his family revealing things he did not have too. I like that.
travisw
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That isn't true. Poll consistently shows roughly 7 out of every 10 Americans report that they’re fairly satisfied with the quality of their personal coverage. The studies you're referencing reflect their opinions of the coverage of others.
Most Americans Still Rate Their Healthcare Quite Positively
https://news.gallup.com/poll/245195/americans-rate-healthcare-quite-positively.aspx
Unclebaldrick
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Oh oh. You questioned Tty's "facts". Time for him to say you love Trump.That isn't true. Poll consistently shows roughly 7 out of every 10 Americans report that they’re fairly satisfied with the quality of their personal coverage. The studies you're referencing reflect their opinions of the coverage of others.
Most Americans Still Rate Their Healthcare Quite Positively
https://news.gallup.com/poll/245195/americans-rate-healthcare-quite-positively.aspx
Because, Vulcan logic.
ttystikk
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Thanks for putting some evidence supporting your argument.That isn't true. Poll consistently shows roughly 7 out of every 10 Americans report that they’re fairly satisfied with the quality of their personal coverage. The studies you're referencing reflect their opinions of the coverage of others.
Most Americans Still Rate Their Healthcare Quite Positively
https://news.gallup.com/poll/245195/americans-rate-healthcare-quite-positively.aspx
Here's mine;
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/28/most-americans-now-support-medicare-for-all-and-free-college-tuition.html
Fogdog
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LOL, you don't have even a clue that Bernie is completely fucking up, do you?
155 million people obtain coverage through work (data from the Congressional Budget Office))
70% say their coverage is excellent or good (data from a gallup poll)
Hey, dumbass. Do the math:
155 million x 70% = ?
I said earlier that 100 million people would be forced from coverage they like. That is a low-estimate. The real number is very likely to be much higher..
DECEMBER 7, 2018
Most Americans Still Rate Their Healthcare Quite Positively
https://news.gallup.com/poll/245195/americans-rate-healthcare-quite-positively.aspx
Health insurance coverage in the United States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_insurance_coverage_in_the_United_States
Health insurance coverage in the United States is provided by several public and private sources. During 2016, the U.S. population overall was approximately 325 million, with 53 million people 65 years of age and over, covered by the federal Medicare program. The 272 million non-institutional people under age 65 either obtained their coverage from employer-based (155 million) or non-employer based (90 million) sources,
If Bernie's plan is so great, why does the plan FORCE more than a hundred million people from plans they like and into Bernie's plan?
I'll tell you the answer to the arithmetic question I posed earlier.
155 million x 70% = political suicide
Budley Doright
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Your waiting for handouts ........ classy
Budley Doright
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Is his math the same as he used when he pumped out his girlfriend?LOL, you don't have even a clue that Bernie is completely fucking up, do you?
155 million people obtain coverage through work (data from the Congressional Budget Office))
70% say their coverage is excellent or good (data from a gallup poll)
Hey, dumbass. Do the math:
155 million x 70% = ?
I said earlier that 100 million people would be forced from coverage they like. That is a low-estimate. The real number is very likely to be much higher..
DECEMBER 7, 2018
Most Americans Still Rate Their Healthcare Quite Positively
https://news.gallup.com/poll/245195/americans-rate-healthcare-quite-positively.aspx
Health insurance coverage in the United States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_insurance_coverage_in_the_United_States
Health insurance coverage in the United States is provided by several public and private sources. During 2016, the U.S. population overall was approximately 325 million, with 53 million people 65 years of age and over, covered by the federal Medicare program. The 272 million non-institutional people under age 65 either obtained their coverage from employer-based (155 million) or non-employer based (90 million) sources,
If Bernie's plan is so great, why does the plan FORCE more than a hundred million people from plans they like and into Bernie's plan?
I'll tell you the answer to the arithmetic question I posed earlier.
155 million x 70% = political suicide
Fogdog
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Now that I cited my sources. How about you posting your own? You say study after study says most Americans don't like their health insurance (moron). OK, so I admit, I'm a moron but I think I'm smarter than you. Prove me wrong by posting several of those studies you claim show people don't like their health care coverage. Sub-moron pimp.
Herb & Suds
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Hey I 'll listen to Elizabeth in the debates but still NEVER Bernie and I'm not supportive of Senators as candidates
So there is that
Fogdog
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Elizabeth Warren's plan allows people to buy-in to Medicare as an option. It's a good plan. Hers is nothing like what Bernie's amateurish and half-assed bill does. Bernie's bill makes it illegal to offer coverage that mirrors Medicare and forces people out of their existing plan. Are you so ignorant of Bernie's bill that I have to cite that? Also, Bernie doesn't say how this massive shift in health care coverage that represents 25% of our economy will be paid for. Are you so ignorant of Bernie's bill that I have to cite that?
Do you know anything at all? Except beating women. You know how to do that. It has been said by one of your victims.
ttystikk
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Then by all means, vote for Warren.
Fogdog
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I'll make up my mind after the debates. At this time, I prefer Democrats select somebody younger whose last name is not Gabbard. Warren is a bit out of touch with the times. Leagues better than Bernie though.
Getting back to your histrionic reply that set off our tete a tete.
Now that you know more than a hundred million people who like their private health care plans would be forced into Bernie's health care plan, I suppose you no longer support him.
you may thank me now.
ttystikk
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Funny how that doesn't square with the high level of support for Medicare for all, source cited.
Fogdog
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You do cherry pick poorly.
It is true that without any other information, the idea of universal healthcare is very popular. But. If health care costs go up or the predicted longer wait times are included, support drops to much less than half. When people are told it would eliminate private health care plans -- which as written in Bernie's bill it does -- support drops to only 37%.
https://www.kff.org/health-reform/poll-finding/kff-health-tracking-poll-january-2019/
What I want to know is, if Bernie's bill is so great, why does it force people to switch and not give them a choice? Do you still support Bernie knowing that his bill would force people out of plans they like?