REALSTYLES
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This chart is a lie @CobKits that's why I posted ???????? why the lie? I know why. I'm sitting back and watching, looking and reading what is posted
This chart is a lie @CobKits that's why I posted ???????? why the lie? I know why. I'm sitting back and watching, looking and reading what is posted
Why you believe that his charts are a lie?This chart is a lie @CobKits that's why I posted ???????? why the lie? I know why. I'm sitting back and watching, looking and reading what is posted
I'm probably going to upgrade them to the gen7 version and keep using the same heat sink and drivers. I've been meaning to get around to that. I don't agree that gavita is crap though. Really anything about 30% efficiency is what I'd call "good".Gavita is shit.
Most LED setups are running 50% efficiency, to go higher you will need to do what @Randomblame mentioned, multiple COBs under-driven.
This would raise start-up costs but in several years you could see a return on the electric.
We are only talking 10% increase.
sure thing man, yeah i made that data up. i can post the other half dozen imaginary tests i did on other samples of cxbs as wellThis chart is a lie @CobKits that's why I posted ???????? why the lie? I know why. I'm sitting back and watching, looking and reading what is posted
What parts of Gavita is shit? How many runs you have under DE? What did you not like about them? Was your weight down vs your LED's? And if your running more then 8 Gavitas like you are, then who cares about a electric bill? Would be more concerned about if your haircut girls are going to be ready that week. Your already getting a pound and a quarter or more out of 500 watts of DE running OG (a low yielder) like you are.Gavita is shit.
Most LED setups are running 50% efficiency, to go higher you will need to do what @Randomblame mentioned, multiple COBs under-driven.
This would raise start-up costs but in several years you could see a return on the electric.
We are only talking 10% increase.
gavitas are fine (moreso DEs in general)What parts of Gavita is shit? How many runs you have under DE? What did you not like about them?
I prefer the new Nanolux, I just find everyone saying gavita referring to DE fixtures, so i went with the flow. One way to the tell who knows what they are talking about around here.gavitas are fine (moreso DEs in general)
i personally think the boss or acde reflectors are better for most non-warehouse growers but every space is different
Saw your post about the Vero 18 rig. I was about to mention in a thread on cost yesterday that there were probably some 4-5 year old Vero 18/29 and CXA lamps floating around. And that the upgrade cost is a good bit less than the original cost of the lamp. Especially if the lamp is passive. Nine bucks a pop for cobs and drivers are cheap. And then good to go for another 4-5 years.I'm probably going to upgrade them to the gen7 version and keep using the same heat sink and drivers. I've been meaning to get around to that. I don't agree that gavita is crap though. Really anything about 30% efficiency is what I'd call "good".
unfortunately math can be used to prove anything. I trust my plants to tell me what they like just like any real farmer would do. there is NO substitute for experienceTrust math, not marketing.
What parts of Gavita is shit? How many runs you have under DE? What did you not like about them? Was your weight down vs your LED's? And if your running more then 8 Gavitas like you are, then who cares about a electric bill? Would be more concerned about if your haircut girls are going to be ready that week. Your already getting a pound and a quarter or more out of 500 watts of DE running OG (a low yielder) like you are.
You need to read some actual science on that, because its completely wrong.As a cultivator you should know that only the blue and red spectrum do work on your plants.
fine if you like seeing colored spots on your plants. the diodes are so far apart they do not mix well at effective distance.most of those cheap chinese grow lights start losing diodes in the first 6 month.to get good plug and play grow light you will need to spend atleast $400 to cover a 2 by 3 flowering area https://www.amazon.com/Unit-Farm-UFO-80-Spectrum-Indoor/dp/B07197VW9Z this is the cheapest light I've found that uses cree diodesButtttttt for 200$ id rather use 2 lights
These would be the 2 id get 98$ each
With dimmers as well
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You mean this light that im using now? Lolfine if you like seeing colored spots on your plants. the diodes are so far apart they do not mix well at effective distance.most of those cheap chinese grow lights start losing diodes in the first 6 month.to get good plug and play grow light you will need to spend atleast $400 to cover a 2 by 3 flowering area https://www.amazon.com/Unit-Farm-UFO-80-Spectrum-Indoor/dp/B07197VW9Z this is the cheapest light I've found that uses cree diodes
Yeah, they actually do. The sheet is a bit confusing because the columns are arranged different than most. You are probably used to seeing the "min flux / typical flux / max flux" column layout and looked at the middle column for the numbers to use - that was apparent from the ~7000 lumen figure you jumped on initially. But Luminus lists the typical figures in the FIRST column - which is 8285L just as Random indicated - and that is the 85C number.Your numbers don't match the sheet you posted.
Don't use 25° Tc figures.
You mean this light that im using now? LolView attachment 4015020
Yeah i stated earlier that im using the UFO80 Led by Unit Farm. It really is a great light. Cree blue and whites and Osram red diodes
Correct. Data sheets and product simulators have been proven to be rather optimistic.I don't have time right now to pick apart that graph.
just looking at it right now the numbers don't seem to match the data sheets.