BHO with Vacuum oil/wax tutorial

Guzias1

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OH YA! and I also want to mention; I have been performing my runs at night when it's around 25F. Everything is that cold...the butane, bud, pyrex...my face...and my second run of LCOG was done using the mason jar "soak" method. The butane only slightly boils initially for a bit then completely stops cause it's so cold out, about 20min later there's no noticeable difference in the level of butane. I only soaked for so long to try and extract more...I read somewhere that below butane's b.p. it can take 1-2hrs for the oils to be fully extracted.

Also I'm curious how much slower the chlorophyll and other unwanteds are extracted...or dissolved into solution rather. I'm going to continue the mason jar method as curiosity always gets the best of me.

i'll tell you what i know about cold and warm and what not..


i tend to spray at night in cold as well.. my tane flows right through my tube pretty easily when its really..

when i spray in a warmer temperature, i believe my tube and the material tend to freeze up, i think its because of all the moisture , condensation? And the butane has a harder time flowing through the tube..

SO, i think i may insulate my tube, wrap it with some sort of foam wrap, try to make it like a cooler.

ive been curious about the mason jar method as well, but when i saw a tutorial, i think the process involved about half, to a whole can of butane for just a few grams of weed.. and im also afraid it just wont be cold enough where i am. ...
 

650baquet

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this real world shit sucks..
AGREE! I'm only 23.5, I'm worked mainly nursery/greenhouse/landscaping but after last summer my joints told me no more. I love being outside and completing the job gives me more satisfaction than where i'm currently at...not sure if i should be worried about mentioning the companies name so i'll just say it's a sandwich shop made famous by Jerry haha. At least i'm working nearly fulltime but it sucks, i'm currently debating landscaping for one more season hopefully being able to save enough money to get to Cali.

One summer I worked for the agency( i really really don't want to mention their name on here) responsible for keeping our northern border maintained. That Summer we started at the Peace Gardens in ND and worked all the way back about 100miles into MT before I went back to college(which i am no longer attending do to my inability to commit and focus in one area...i want to do everything it seems). We stayed in hotels all summer and i was way younger than the other workers, 19 at the time, and i don't drink leaving me in my room burnin herb while they closed the bar down every night it seemed. Though I made like 18/hr so i was pretty happy. 12k by the time i was done for the summer.

I still have no clue what I want to do for my future career though i really enjoy fixing/building things...i have a feeling i'm going to fall back to owning a greenhouse or something just cause i've always had a natural greenthumb and i'm too unmotivated to pursuit a college degree sadly. I've had a dream of running a business with a good friend but he has been in SD for a long time and has chosen to take a different path in life and for a while now I have felt like I don't care to to much of anything anymore because i have no one to do things with, anybody who has a real interest in MJ...that's why i might sound like a mad babbler recently, i've just had so much on my mind and no one to speak to haha then it all comes out at once and in the wrong place and poorly worded.

Hope work goes much better tomorrow, I have had to remind myself of the positives a lot to stay happy these days.

Tough Mudder????
 

650baquet

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ive been curious about the mason jar method as well, but when i saw a tutorial, i think the process involved about half, to a whole can of butane for just a few grams of weed.. and im also afraid it just wont be cold enough where i am. ...
You can opt to use a prechilled stainless thermos in place of the mason jar. Last time I actually wrapped these wrist gel packs around the jars. Don't know how much that helps but some i'm sure. I just try not to touch the jar with my bare hands for long if at all. WHOLE CAN FOR A FEW GRAMS, for the 20.6g of bud and 3.1g yield I got with a 20-30min soak i used maybe 1.5 cans and that's only because i did i really quick rinse with more butane to try and wash some more oil out...i know of a pretty popular youtube video that a guy lives in a warmer climate i'll link it then make references to it.
[video=youtube_share;VTVRYk0Zdg4]http://youtu.be/VTVRYk0Zdg4[/video]


So he empties the whole can into an EMPTY LARGE jar. If you know some physics and chemistry you just know this isn't the most efficient way to utilize the $6can of vector...I use the smallest jar i can fit my herb into leaving enough room to swirl it around a bit. My thought is that the butane will come in contact with the cold herb almost immediately and the smaller container helps achieve that. I just have a couple holes in the lid opposite to that of the inlet hole where you place the nozzel. While poking the exhaust holes, pry the tool down and away from you as to shape the hole in a way that the escaping gasses shoot away from you not towards to. I can def feel a lot gasses escaping out of the exhaust...I;m not worried about the mason jar exploding while blasting haha so i'm going to experiment with smaller exhaust holes slightly increasing the internal pressure possibly helping more of the butane stay in liquid form. The pressure would only be increased slightly and only while the can is being emptied.
While blasting use caution, because the plant material close to the inlet and exhaust can be blown around and small chunks may fly out. Multiple small exhaust holes helps the problem.
After filling each jar to just level with the top of the material it soaks of "x" time. Shorter for better quality. I would say at 30F I would soak for 5-10minutes minimum but i need to experiment more.
I use my old bubble bags as screens, easy to rinse and reuse, I just rubber band my 28 or 76 micron as tight as i can and seems to work just fine. I'll drain until it barely drips. Then after I clean that up I get the water bath started.
...and that's the end of anything different with the extraction method.
I throw the jars full still full of product into the freezer after drying a bit for a second run later.
Making multiple clarity checks during the extract is wise, just as with Iso extractions(except thank god butane barely extracts chlorophyll compared to iso) So eventually it gets really cloudy especially if you shake it a lot, I kinda wait until it's a very nice solid color for a higher yield/lesser quality.

MAD THOUGHT: Insert can of butane into pressure vessel, equalize pressure to that of the internal pressure of the can, poke holes in can(somehow) and would the contents just drain right out??? There is probably much more to that than i realize lol. Basically it would be cool to build a vessel that would allow you to release the contents under pressure and then perform a soak under pressure maybe...idk like a said mad thought.

I guess I would just rather have a Terpenator or some other butane recycling extraction unit.
 

650baquet

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When he takes the lid off his jar before adding the bud you can just see the fumes blasting out of the top...anybody got a light?? lol jk of course
 

650baquet

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tough mudder, i heard about it this year through a friend. its my kind of thing :]

http://toughmudder.com/oregon-2013-sample-course-map/
That sounds sweet actually but ya not my type of thing lol, maybe when i used to hang out with some ppl in the guard and do more stuff like that...maybe i need a testosterone patch haha! I'm a long distance biker though , not the same thing, but it's finally warming up enough for me to have time for a decent ride where i'm not all tense. I started biking when i lived in Kona, my old boss and his wife are tri-athletes and really gave me a lot to look up to but I'm out of it cause I actually want to have time to focus on my girlfriend and dog and plants and the rest of life and training takes way too much time. So i'm focusing on one aspect, biking. This last winter was rough on me though, got lazy, but now that i'm not landscaping I won't be getting home at 630-7 all wiped out not wanting to do shit even on the weekends i just wanted to recover for the next week.

Anyways RIU is starting to soak up a lot of my time as well now lol and my girls are beckoning me to check on them. I MIGHT be doing a run tonight since i'm all out, but doubt it. Most likely tomorrow evening...all i know is i'm going to my girlfriends grandparent for easter and it MUST be completed by then or i may not survive haha
 

Guzias1

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When he takes the lid off his jar before adding the bud you can just see the fumes blasting out of the top...anybody got a light?? lol jk of course
no!
you know, i am more afraid of getting injured at the gas station, over my bho system.. I gotta fill up a full tank twice a week .. Many stupid things could happen there..I blow a few times a week lately :p


"Inhalation of butane can cause euphoria, drowsiness, narcosis, asphyxia, cardiac arrhythmia, temporary memory loss" - wikipedia


 

Guzias1

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Im loving this skunkpharkresearch!

"Who knows how old the recipe actually is, because the surviving recipe is from Exodus 30, verses 22-30:22 Then the LORD said to Moses, 23 “Take the following fine spices: 500 shekels of liquid myrrh, half as much (that is, 250 shekels) of fragrant cinnamon, 250 shekels of fragrant cane, 24 500 shekels of cassia – all according to the sanctuary shekel – and a hin of olive oil. 25 Make these into a sacred anointing oil, a fragrant blend, the work of a perfumer. It will be the sacred anointing oil. . . .30 “Anoint Aaron and his sons and consecrate them so they may serve me as priests.”
 

Guzias1

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Great thread

tell me a bit about yourself drewbowls...

seems to me you may have been someone interested in this beezneez.. so you created a RIU account, and left your first comment on this holy grail ? :p

thats one instance, could have been a million other possibilities .

any who, thanks! just pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee be safe, where ever you are blowing, make sure there is plenty of air movement, and no pools of tane around.

if you already know whats up, and have some new ideas, please share!
 

Guzias1

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hey guys. just an FIY, i just ran the rest of my SCB, i got the wax, no problem.. she finished at temps of 147F..

BUT THE KICKER!

the color reallyyyy darkened up.. i would say this only sat out about 1-2 weeks longer than my original pull.. so ya, theres some really important info right there...

blow asap, I'd say, chop the plant, and after chop, you should not wait longer than 2 weeks to blow.. -THATS FOR BEST COLOR.
 

650baquet

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the color reallyyyy darkened up.. i would say this only sat out about 1-2 weeks longer than my original pull.. so ya, theres some really important info right there...

blow asap, I'd say, chop the plant, and after chop, you should not wait longer than 2 weeks to blow.. -THATS FOR BEST COLOR.

Ya that's def what I experienced
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just to reference again, this is LCOG 1.5wks from flower then dried in oven, jarred, and chilled to 30F before beginning the butane soak.

So I'm about to do some runs with LCOG bud about 4wks from harvest, but i feel it should come out pretty light colored still. How long from harvest was your last SCB blast?
 

650baquet

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Well i think we agree not to go too hot with the water, just so it's warm 80-90F. It may take longer, any you might have to change water out more frequently. IDEA: you could run a hose from your tap in the house outside so you can continuously have warm water. I'm debating placing the pan on a warming pad used for clones after most of the butane is gone and throw a fan on it. It might work idk how warm the pad really gets just need to shoot it with my IRT.
 
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