BHO with Vacuum oil/wax tutorial

are we all set? yo, i was at the hardware store, in the end, could not think of how i could correctly make a cheap chamber, ( i have ideas for a large chamber though) so, i have given in, im going to pick up a decent chamber online.. i would love to say good bye to my vacuum mason jar collection...... all i need is some unbleached coffee filters, then i'll be pro status hahaaarrrr, you guys rea;;yyy just need to relax.. stop .. nooo, nooo noo.. ok, ya, anddd gooo... my turn..

bit the bullet, ordered myself one of these

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Thermal-Vacuum-Space-Simulation-Chamber-/360323900933?pt=BI_Pumps&hash=item53e4fa6605


time to get some real work done :]

hehe, i actually picked up a vac-it-pro. better be worth it!

the vac it pros are pretty quality units... only downside is that 3 gallons is a little large, especially if you got a small pump.

vacpurge said:

the vac it pros are pretty quality units... only downside is that 3 gallons is a little large, especially if you got a small pump.

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thats great news! i bought this thing with little confidence.. it looks simple, hope it is simple, and can hold up to the seal..

i feel you on the small vacuum, i have a 3cfm fjc pump, she works hard!

i have a large 2 gallon or so chamber that i made for the initial muffin process, my pump takes dayssssssssssss on that.. so i have a feeling im gonna eventually upgrade the pump.. but she gets the job done! just slower.. she is a killer pump though..

i cover/muffle my pump to help reduce the noise.. layers of blankets and pillows.. i can run the thing for 1-2 hours straight( completely wrapped) before overheating the thing (it shuts off till its cool enough to come back on).. but i dont run my pump all the time now.. i've ran my pump, uncovered, in open cool air over night, no problems.. it has air cool fins, so as long as they are cool enough, she works!

im really looking forward to this thing!

i almost bought a 1.5 gal unit because i have the smaller vacuum, but, im really happy i bought something i can grow into now :]

and a couple oz of muffin puff looks like it would fill up a 3 gal chamber.. i just hope the seal lasts! or if they break, they are fixable i dont want to drop any more big investments anytime soon.. unless its tane, and that would be for a good reason, for waxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx. if im lucky, i get the chamber by 28th , latest...

the seal is pretty good. I dont think it can be fixed when broken, it looks like it was done by machine for sure. mine does lose pressure over night when I close the ball valve and let it sit.. not much though. 1 or 2" maybe. and that could be from the fittings, or something.

you say it takes days? I posted some pics/questions in the other thread.. I cant get it to wax. maybe im not vaccing it long enough or keeping it warm enough for long enough. if thats the case,,, cancel your order and ill sell you mine for half price and buy a smaller one!!!!

yea its not going to hold its vac and yea just keep doing it longer

vacpurge said:

the seal is pretty good. I dont think it can be fixed when broken, it looks like it was done by machine for sure. mine does lose pressure over night when I close the ball valve and let it sit.. not much though. 1 or 2" maybe. and that could be from the fittings, or something.

you say it takes days? I posted some pics/questions in the other thread.. I cant get it to wax. maybe im not vaccing it long enough or keeping it warm enough for long enough. if thats the case,,, cancel your order and ill sell you mine for half price and buy a smaller one!!!!

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i hope it leaks around the valves, i can seal the fittings.. , if it leaks through the gasket, im going to be extremely disappointing. probably send the shit back, will test asap..

when i say it takes daysss, i mean, it takes a longggg time.. not really 24 hrs. more like less than 30 minutes :]

I highly doubt its leaking through the gasket, the lid is a very professional looking and fitting piece. also, my chamber gets fairly warm, which I think warms up the silicone seal making it even softer and makes an even better seal.

I dont know if its my parchment paper, or the shape of the bottom of the dish... but my oil likes to drain to the corners of the dish/edges of my paper tending to make a mess.. I wish it would stay in 1 nice spot right in the center!! it could be the roll/bend of my sheet of parchment paper though.

since i gots myself a thread here, i figured i'd post my best extracts! here is another good picture tutorial of the process.. i believe it was also one of my quickest, and biggest yields.. material input is the critical factor..
the beautiful oil ready to purge
vacuuming at room temp, trying to achieve muffin..
more muffin prep
getting veryyyy dry.. the closer i get to the muffin ball, the more i have to fold/ and smash this towards the center of the parchment paper
pretty much a tough sponge, fun to play with!
so this is the muffin ball, all achieved without heat, just many fucking vacuums.. and working of the oil to the center of the parchment.. also some flakes from my dish, when i use dishes, i dont really worry about scraping the sides, so since the sides are cakes with oil, i throw that into the oven, 00 deg f for about 1-2 hrs.. then i scrape off flakes! :] .. not the best product, but still fun...
skipped a lot, due to the fact that it waxed soo fast.. but hell, here you go, same idea as this thread, melt down muffin ball with decent heat, then drop heat, and fully purge.. .. temps ranged from 100-130
and bam! work o art

The Goodies..


this one crackled a tad.


theees one was niceeeeeeeeeeeeeee



theees was a small run, but very delicious

just the ladies chillen out back :]

oh, and more of her..

crusty crank

old material, compared to new material

The Godfather

The Godfather Part II

a closer look

i want to live on a planet covered in trichomes :]


my lovely assistant and I blow our material out back in the farm..


bho squirt gun


bho trichome pouring out of my tube

lmao good pics man

lovin' this...............looks great!

so a constant heat is the key eh? and your oil literally sits there and bubbles for hours and hours and hours???

vacpurge said:

so a constant heat is the key eh? and your oil literally sits there and bubbles for hours and hours and hours???

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yupppp. Hours... The key is to make sure its not too hot though. Takes a long time, but better to start off low heat on a new material, I still goo up batches every now and then... Time depends on material. Play it safe

well. I royally fucked up 4 times yesterday and its really making me not like the vac chamber thing... or maybe its just my fuckin desiccator.

first of all, I think its way too big for my pump. if I plug the hole in the lid (where it sucks the air from) my gauge reads 26" instantly.. making me wonder if thats MY max vacuum. with the desiccator, it takes about 30 seconds to get to 26" and it doesnt muffin much, it doesnt expand much. just bubbles and I think thats from the heat mostly.

and secondly, I dont like the shape of the bottom and this fucking parchment paper is driving me absolutely crazy. I almost punched the wall yesterday.

firstly, I had this.. the oil got too warm and runny, my parchment paper wasnt pefectly flat (I think the bottom of the dish is convex)




got that fixed, couldnt recover all the oil off the parchment paper, made 1 big sticky mess. only recovered 95% back.

then I had this happen an hour or 2 later:







at this point, I was so fucking mad and disappointed with my stupidity that I wanted to die.

I made a fresh batch of oil to start fresh, and was bored, being an idiot. and I noticed that the lid for the vac it pro fit nicely on my SS dish... so I slapped it on, turned on the vacuum, and it got to 20~ " very quickly... then my dish started to imblode!!! I forgot that it needs to be a tough ass dish to hold a vacuum like that. another idiot beginner mistake to make my day even more of a fail. I popped the dents out, was able to scrape out 100% of the oil still. but boy did I feel fucking stupid. havnt been this sticky and had this big of a mess with BHO since I first started 3+ years ago. it was embarrassing and I was mad at myself.








so when all that was said and done with, I put the new batch in the desiccator and came back in a few hours and got this. it was fine when I left, not sure what pulls it to the edges like that.






I tried once more, but this time instead of putting all 8g of oil. I put in 1g or less. on a big piece of paper, right in the center...it was great. left for an hour or so, came back, and it was all over the edge of the paper again, even though I folded all the edges upwards.

ive now lost probably .5g of oil into parchment paper that I cant get off. i scrapped as much as I could off, buy boy is this thing making a fuckin mess. I think my major problem is my heat is way way way too hot. I am buying a proper grille/griddle today!!!!!

I figured, enough with the paper. I just left the oil right in the desiccator (which I think might be aluminum.. if you scrape it very very slowly and perfect, I can get 99.5% of the oil back and no shavings. its not something I want to be doing all the time though. if I can get the wax part perfected, It should just lift off the bottom with no scraping required.

also. im losing major vacuum overnight.. I think it might be in the fittings, just not too sure where. I think it might be right where the hole is in the lid where they got the stuff connected. the bottom is only a washer and nut.. dont think thats air tight. needs a rubber washer too. I could be wrong.

when you get yours in guzias.. we should do a 12 hour test. bring it to full vac, close the ball valve, let it sit for 12 hours, and see how much its lost... see if ours are different?

went to wal mart, got a nice black and decker griddle. best 40$ ive ever spent... along with this little heat gun. damn its handy.

heres a few pics. the desiccator fit PERFECTLY on it.. finally something went right for once.

ive had 1.5~ g of oil under a heated vac for around 3 hours now. gonna let it sit till it waxes, and turn on the pump + open ball valve once in a while and suck on the chamber again.

the griddle heat is around 250F, I think the oil heat is around 100-130F. its not too hot I know that,,, but I might have got it too hot on the past so it could be gooo foreverrrrr.

I dont know what else to do to turn it yellow and dry. well let sit for 24 hours and see.

got it a bit hot for a few minutes.. could this have ruined it?



little hot on the test run. I got it figured now. BE CAREFUL. THE HANDLES OF THE VAC IT PRO GET HOT. if your oil is the proper 120F temp... chances are your desiccator is pretty damn warm, with that being said, the handles will guaranteed be un fucking touchable

forgot to mention... after vac purging, this stuff definitely isnt getting any easier on the lungs. it kinda burns on the inhale now too. not just the exhale, like it used to.

I really think my chamber is too big and the vacuum isnt strong enough or something... im not getting any crazy inflation like im seeing in your mason jar picture. that looks like a seriously strong vacuum.

I am wondering if I could put something solid into my chamber that takes up space so its not 3 gallons anymore, if I can get a stronger pull on it... but then it would be hard to heat up the oil.

also, how are you supposed to monitor the oil temperature?? I can check the griddle temp (250F) and the side of the desiccator (100f) but not too sure of the exact oil temp... it could be way too hot, or "burnt" as ill call it, where its gooo foreverrr. which I think it may have been.

this is weird, I know its not my starting material quality as it was made from nice, stinky, sugary, hindu kush. maybe its the strain? or maybe its just the temps that im majorly screwing up. this is sure getting expensive quick and losing me a lot of oil. I got about 10 oil papers here from cleaning up messes haha!

lmao dont open the valve so fast i like how you taped it down

and what is reading 381 degrees

when you set your chamber right on the griddle, the chamber will be about 10 degrees cooler then the griddle so put ur griddle at 140 150

I got another small bown inside of my chamber. so I think its a little more than 10.

I am going to open the top after work and see that the temp of the oil is. dont think my griddle goes quite that low. ill have to see. I think 200 is the minimum.

yeah I learned not to open the bleed or ball valve too fast (life rule, never open ANY valve at full speed. I seen a guy do that with a high pressure air line and the end went crazy, smacked him in the face and knocked several teeth out, seen another guy do it do a pressure/vac truck... a 6" hose come back and knock a 260lb guy 10 feet back)

anyways. that was my griddle for a few mins, I had it turned to 300-350 range which I figure was too hot (trying to get my chamber hotter faster) then I turned down to 200 or so.

what are the temp ranges exactly? ranges I dont ever want to go over, etc...