BHO with Vacuum oil/wax tutorial

650baquet

Active Member
haha thought it was pretty obvious... poured butane into water!!! that was a 2nd rinse, just 1 can so I was fooling around. pretty good for 1 can 2nd rinse though.

butane made water cold, it made ice chunks, as I was showing in the sink.

poured hot water into my SS dish to melt the ice.

poured all the water out and left oil in the dish.

thats where I started to play. it made this amazing sponge stuff. , and its very fragile, dry, and crumbly. its like dust. pretty cool. lots of moisture in it though, really crackles on the nail.

I got it in the vac chamber right now though. 12 hours so far in at full vacuum.
I was thinking that's what you did but it must have been pretty cold to keep that butane in the first ss bowl from boiling. It was kind of obvious once you added it to that mysterious clear liquid haha and it started boiling like crazy. cool though, looks pretty neat!
 

Marzfisch

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It terrifies my how many people poison themselves more and more every day with butane hash.
Research what your putting into your body! If you want to live long, you need to take care of yourself and watch what you put in your body, ESPECIALLY THROUGH SMOKING!

Don't Believe me? see for yourself:
https://www.rollitup.org/concentrates-extracts/647288-butane-going-kill-you-guys.html
http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=10105
http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2011/02/butane_hash_dangers_edibles.php
 

Guzias1

Well-Known Member
I don't know about spraying directly into everclear, you wouldn't want to immediately strain onto dish/mirror though because you've skipped the actual winterizing process by freezing for 24-48hrs first...but after that you could strain through coffee filters directly into a dish.

Hey man i'm new to it as well, no matter if you evap in a dish or on a mirror just vacuum it to ensure better purge of the Everclear and you're going to be damn satisfied i'm sure. I barely have to add any heat at all when i drop it onto a mirror to evap :) i just sat there high jammin to music while having fun slowly dropping the filtered everclear/oil solution onto the mirror. Takes a long time to evap when in a thick pool so heating def speeds it up.

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Quick crappy pic of how much light from the 400W might have been helping the LCOG. Shaded area is where the main canopy of nugs were at final height. The 400w would have been provided more help during the first stages of flower due to the low height but the i slide the LCOG further over to the left and started tying up branches. I can tell that nugs closest to the 400w were slightly larger than the nugs against the wall on the left side of the 150w. Also the nugs closest to the Kessil LED(which i didn't draw but imagine it being between you and the LCOG as you look at the paper) were darker and more dense but not necessarily heavier. I can't wait to get a final weight on the yield.
i seeeeeeeeeeeeeee, so you gots a few diff light sources in there... well good job anyways..

i totally forgot about the "winterizing" part in the freezer.. ahhh. lameeee.
 

Guzias1

Well-Known Member
It terrifies my how many people poison themselves more and more every day with butane hash.
Research what your putting into your body! If you want to live long, you need to take care of yourself and watch what you put in your body, ESPECIALLY THROUGH SMOKING!

Don't Believe me? see for yourself:
https://www.rollitup.org/concentrates-extracts/647288-butane-going-kill-you-guys.html
http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=10105
http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2011/02/butane_hash_dangers_edibles.php

i still dont believe you :]

now im gonna enjoy this next butane hash hit :]
 

650baquet

Active Member
It terrifies my how many people poison themselves more and more every day with butane hash.
Research what your putting into your body! If you want to live long, you need to take care of yourself and watch what you put in your body, ESPECIALLY THROUGH SMOKING!

Don't Believe me? see for yourself:
https://www.rollitup.org/concentrates-extracts/647288-butane-going-kill-you-guys.html
http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=10105
http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2011/02/butane_hash_dangers_edibles.php
If you're going to jump in here and first post that you have a problem with what we do...why not be a pal and offer a solution that's easier and less harmful to my lungs than winterized BHO.
Thanks
 

650baquet

Active Member
IMG_20130420_112329_227.jpgsomething i'm tryin with my two TW under my 432w led. threw a 150w hps under her to see what happens to the development of the undergrowth and if it will effect how large the top growth gets.

Here are pics of some of the harvest. still another oz downstairs.
P1010002.jpgP1010003.jpgP1010005.jpgP1010006.jpgP1010007.jpgP1010008.jpgP1010009.jpgare these stems a good green color for to you Guizas?P1010010.jpgP1010014.jpgP1010015.jpg
 

vacpurge

New Member
been in the chamber for 24 hours now on low heat, not sure what temp, but it has reduced in size a lot. typical yield that you would expect from a 2nd rinse. for 6$ worth of butane im happy. almost .75g of oil or so.
 

650baquet

Active Member
they looking really good man! nice and green, thick green monsters
Thanks man, i really appreciate the compliment! I was honestly rather shocked when i saw how big these buds were getting compared to the last few times...so i think i'm starting to get the LCOG honed in. See why i would be thinking really hard about getting a 1000w and expanding my grow...i feel my skills are finally there too.
 

650baquet

Active Member
been in the chamber for 24 hours now on low heat, not sure what temp, but it has reduced in size a lot. typical yield that you would expect from a 2nd rinse. for 6$ worth of butane im happy. almost .75g of oil or so.
ya nice man, not a bad yield at all. So would it be accurate to start comparing how much i yield with BHO and what THC% my girls may be putting out? It there a way to have a general rule of thumb like (Weight of Absolute/Weight Input Meterial) * 100 = % of THC extracted + R...where R is an average % of unextracted THC...assuming we are unable to be 100% efficient in our extracting because i know we can't be.
 

650baquet

Active Member
they looking really good man! nice and green, thick green monsters
just noticed that was your "666" post lol. look for 777 up next...idk what it is with me and noticing random shit like that all the time...sometimes i like smoking just cause it helps my brain stop focusing on every little detail of shit, or it helps me not care that i'm paying attention to every detail. But this LCOG only make your attention to detail sharper lol until you're all burnt out and your brain is going nnnnaaaaaaaaapppppp tiiiiiiiimmmmmmmmme ...Zzz Zzz Zzz Zzz
 

650baquet

Active Member
Idea for BHO soak method. I'm curious at what point butane is "fully saturated" and can't extract anymore. What if the butane after my soaks could actually have extracted more concentration of oil had it been present, so to better utilize the butane, could I perform a soak in one thermos, then simply strain into another pack thermos performing yet another soak with the same butane and still get a good extraction off the second material. I think i'm totally going to try it I just have to get another thermos. I mean sometimes the butane is still fairly light colored after a 2 hr soak lol sooo yup...that's where i hit the dead end until i give it a try. I checked a bunch of tiny nugs that i've soaked before and I still see heads on the trichomes so i'm going to soak again...maybe not pack it too tight as i don't know if really packing it super tight limits the exposure of heads too much.
 

Guzias1

Well-Known Member
Idea for BHO soak method. I'm curious at what point butane is "fully saturated" and can't extract anymore. What if the butane after my soaks could actually have extracted more concentration of oil had it been present, so to better utilize the butane, could I perform a soak in one thermos, then simply strain into another pack thermos performing yet another soak with the same butane and still get a good extraction off the second material. I think i'm totally going to try it I just have to get another thermos. I mean sometimes the butane is still fairly light colored after a 2 hr soak lol sooo yup...that's where i hit the dead end until i give it a try. I checked a bunch of tiny nugs that i've soaked before and I still see heads on the trichomes so i'm going to soak again...maybe not pack it too tight as i don't know if really packing it super tight limits the exposure of heads too much.

you make me break my 666 post with this.

i like this idea! i would muchhhhhhhhhhh rather do this with my re ran material, rather than use new cans for very low yeilds.. hmm.... im gonna get me some mason jars going for this!

sooo, i dont have many pretty pics of the headband run, buttt, it allll worked out pretty well :]

i produced 2.5 oz of wax off just the buds, = nice color, crumbly, appealing.. this paid for the whole process and some :]

i got another 2.5ish oz of touchable dark taffy off the trim = noticeably darker outcome than the buds, less appealing, still dank ass fuck :] .. much of this will go into some edibles, aimed at producing the euphoric feeling, rather than couch lock feeling..

final heat for wax was around 130F.

i put in 3lbs of few month old trim/nugs (minus about 2 oz that didnt get blown) - de stemmed as much as possible.

16 cans of tane, 5 tubes of dried, un ground small nugs = about 2.5 oz light brown wax

15 cans of tane, 5 tubes of sifted trim = 2.5 oz ish brown taffy

ive had the same shitty scale for a while. gonna pick up some new ones by the weekend, my measurements are pretty flaky :p ... but i assure you, im not too far off..

rough numbers:

1288 grams of material ... 31 cans of tane

about 41.5 grams per can

woww. the next set of info really surprises me..

5oz = 140 grams

140grams/31cans = 4.5 gram/can :]]]]]]] --hellaaaa good results on a can IMO

140 divided by 1288 to get %? = %11 return...

ya, not so awesome. buttttttttt, i could have used more tane, or perhaps grind, and re run the nugs, WHICH I THINKS I WILL WITH THE MASON JAR IDEA. if i got a %3 return on about 500 grams of nugs, that would = 15 grams.. sooo, i wold be willing to waste 7 cans on 15 grams..


wow, i dunno where my head is right now, NUMBERS..
 

650baquet

Active Member
you make me break my 666 post with this.

i like this idea! i would muchhhhhhhhhhh rather do this with my re ran material, rather than use new cans for very low yeilds.. hmm.... im gonna get me some mason jars going for this!

sooo, i dont have many pretty pics of the headband run, buttt, it allll worked out pretty well :]

i produced 2.5 oz of wax off just the buds, = nice color, crumbly, appealing.. this paid for the whole process and some :]

i got another 2.5ish oz of touchable dark taffy off the trim = noticeably darker outcome than the buds, less appealing, still dank ass fuck :] .. much of this will go into some edibles, aimed at producing the euphoric feeling, rather than couch lock feeling..

final heat for wax was around 130F.

i put in 3lbs of few month old trim/nugs (minus about 2 oz that didnt get blown) - de stemmed as much as possible.

16 cans of tane, 5 tubes of dried, un ground small nugs = about 2.5 oz light brown wax

15 cans of tane, 5 tubes of sifted trim = 2.5 oz ish brown taffy

ive had the same shitty scale for a while. gonna pick up some new ones by the weekend, my measurements are pretty flaky :p ... but i assure you, im not too far off..

rough numbers:

1288 grams of material ... 31 cans of tane

about 41.5 grams per can

woww. the next set of info really surprises me..

5oz = 140 grams

140grams/31cans = 4.5 gram/can :]]]]]]] --hellaaaa good results on a can IMO

140 divided by 1288 to get %? = %11 return...

ya, not so awesome. buttttttttt, i could have used more tane, or perhaps grind, and re run the nugs, WHICH I THINKS I WILL WITH THE MASON JAR IDEA. if i got a %3 return on about 500 grams of nugs, that would = 15 grams.. sooo, i wold be willing to waste 7 cans on 15 grams..


wow, i dunno where my head is right now, NUMBERS..
NICE MAN! i would love to be able to run that much lol!

Think about using mason jars some more before you dive into it...with my experience of jars vs thermos...you'll lose more butane blasting into a jar do to loss of energy and heat transfers causing the butane to be boiling off as it sits there, you can wrap a towel around the jar but don't wet it unless you plan on freezing the wet towel wrapped jar. My point in the first place is to save as much butane as possible and utilize it to the max. So i'm going to use 2 thermoses. My exact plan will probably be to use a SS funnel and simply put the filters into the funnel and dump away...i don't dump the material all the way out of the thermos thought i just invert it, what falls out falls out the rest stays chilled to let more butane drip out. If you dump it out i feel butane starts to evap right away and doesn't have a chance to drip down through the filter. My bud was covered with frost also...so it collected a ton of water on it and i had to leave it sit to dry before i wanted to perform a second soak.
I was thinking about just attaching the two thermoses together wither a filter in between then when once soak is done just flip it over and you're good to go. The whole system is enclosed then and the butane never sees the light of day until after the second soak. I just packed my 16oz thermos full of a mix of TW LCOG and BlueDream second wash, i say trich heads on all of them so why the fuck not. But i want to take the butane used for this large second soak and use to extract some more sooo i still haven't started the soak yet. I'm going to go buy another thermos and wow am i just giddy with excitement.
Oh and numbers and me are pals, grew up just down the street from me. Haha so ya it would cost you $2.8 per gram at 7 cans for 15 grams. Ummm so you assuming around 1can/72grams at 7 cans/500grams of nug? That might be fairly accurate if my whole dbl soaked butane method works out. If you're able to retain all the butane with near zero boil off during the soak then i think you can assume that if you're able to soak 40ish gram of nug in one thermos with one can or so you should be able to flip it and soak another 40ish grams of nug. Wow now i'm really getting excited because if this works well I might have started a "1st" lol as long as i don't find anybody else who has tried it :)
 

vacpurge

New Member
hahaha one of those posts is readable, one is not. guess whos I did the old "tl;dr" to? lol

gotta stop with the wall of text 650, theyre hard to read and I feel bad for ignoring them all the time!


11% is a damn low yield, but 5oz is nice. how come no pics?? going to try winterizing any of that???

interesting how the bud made wax, and trim made goo. maybe thats why I rarely get wax... not that its a good thing!! winterized glass/shatter/absolute FTW!!!!
 

650baquet

Active Member
gotta stop with the wall of text 650, theyre hard to read and I feel bad for ignoring them all the time!
Ya shit, i really haven't been posting for that long and you're the first to complain. Point taken i'll space shit out next time lol sorry you've had to skip shit i know it's hard on the eyes especially if you're on a phone with small font size.
 

vacpurge

New Member
yeah im a bit of a complainer haha... perfect for a union job! I tend to say what others are thinking!!! I think I speak for us all when I say "thank you for spacing out your posts, its easier on the eyes!"
 
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