BHO with Vacuum oil/wax tutorial

Guzias1

Guzias1

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the ONLY way to get through a hot place is to have a big lake , or ocean nearby.

if no water, no me. i'd rather go with cold.

im from southern cal. shits wayyyy to hot down there. and the beach is toooo far most the time due to tons of traffic.. so screw the dry hot places. i like them for dirt bikes :]

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but, tis a very valid point, the girls like to show off under the sun :]

you dont see bikinis in the snow :p :wall:
 
Guzias1

Guzias1

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no more bikes for me. i did that over ten years ago. hopefully one day i can get my own collection going :]

trailer/truck/bike. set. started off on a suzuki LT80, ended with a yamaha banshee :]
good times


now im up to this stuff. sorry for the crappy pics, didnt have a chance with it out of the chamber..

put in 448 grams
came out with 68 grams - winterized
filtered out 10.5 grams of waxes and gunk.. would have been 80 ish grams if i didnt winterize..



got more of this stuff to work with, hope to get some "high times" quality pics of it when done.. i may also try some shatter... who knowsss.
 
Sirdabsalot462

Sirdabsalot462

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Go for the shatter!!

I am biased however, I have grown to like some wax (flavor is good and smooth)

But shatter,...uhh jeez.. I love the shatter, mainly because once I've got a stable shatter, I can do what I like with smaller batches.

And...I'm ALWAYS amazed at what is caught in the filter after cold filtration.

Noice...as per usual.
 
Guzias1

Guzias1

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I haven't smoked enough of either to like one over another. Isn't shatter just as smooth. With the same material? Can you compare the two for me. What's one got over the other in terms of potency , flavor
and yaaa. The filtered out stuff was actually the ugliest stuff so far. Butt the resin came out purty :)

Stay cool guys, or use the free heat purge
 
Fadedawg

Fadedawg

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Guzias1 said:
I haven't smoked enough of either to like one over another. Isn't shatter just as smooth. With the same material? Can you compare the two for me. What's one got over the other in terms of potency , flavor
and yaaa. The filtered out stuff was actually the ugliest stuff so far. Butt the resin came out purty :)

Stay cool guys, or use the free heat purge
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We make shatter, which is aromatic and tastes and smells like the material it was extracted from. It is perfectly usable at that point.

We convert that to wax by vacuuming and heating it longer, which pumps off some of the monoterpenes. If you smell the vacuum pump oil at that point, it will smell as strong, or stronger of terpenes, that the wax extracted.

Waxing can still be highly aromatic, but it exposes the molecules to more oxygen, which makes them oxidize faster and the remaining aromatics, won't stick around as long as it will with shatter.

Shatter is ostensibly more heady, because more of the extract will still be in carboxylic acid form, and wax may have more couch lock, from the higher CBN.
 
Twitch

Twitch

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when you say shatter, how are you making shatter?

When i do get a shatter from some of my winterized stuff that didnt wax up. it actually seems to loose its potency over time vs. my wax This is one of the reasons i do small batches of winterized stuff, I truly noticed a difference in potency. I am not saying this just to argue, because your logic makes since as far as being more exposed to oxygen and oxidizing, but i feel in the wax state it seems to preserve itself. one idea is because there are actual plant waxes in it, but i am forced to re think that theory, because my some winterized stuff waxes, but not all of it, and i have not kept enough of the winterized wax around for an extended period of time and try to compare the potency,

sorry stoned rambling fad if you can make sense of that let me know what you think
 
WarMachine

WarMachine

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Guzias1 said:
put in 448 grams
came out with 68 grams - winterized
filtered out 10.5 grams of waxes and gunk.. would have been 80 ish grams if i didnt winterize..



got more of this stuff to work with, hope to get some "high times" quality pics of it when done.. i may also try some shatter... who knowsss.
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Damn I never realized winterized would make that big of a difference.. I should try it once..
 
Guzias1

Guzias1

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Twitch. said:
when you say shatter, how are you making shatter?

When i do get a shatter from some of my winterized stuff that didnt wax up. it actually seems to loose its potency over time vs. my wax This is one of the reasons i do small batches of winterized stuff, I truly noticed a difference in potency. I am not saying this just to argue, because your logic makes since as far as being more exposed to oxygen and oxidizing, but i feel in the wax state it seems to preserve itself. one idea is because there are actual plant waxes in it, but i am forced to re think that theory, because my some winterized stuff waxes, but not all of it, and i have not kept enough of the winterized wax around for an extended period of time and try to compare the potency,

sorry stoned rambling fad if you can make sense of that let me know what you think
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i tend to get my most prettiest looking shatter when i use 29-29.5 hg the entire ride out..

i get to my wax by starting out that way, then ending higher on the HG.

also, to get a realllyyy nice even consistency, i fold the oils back to the center a bit often. and re vac. mos the time, under the same heat. just many steps.. a lot of times, you'll see one edge start to shatter/wax.. the other edge needs some love too! so i refold. gots to keep it even..


winterizing is an eye opener.. i've never tried to re winterize.. i needs to get me a trap machine damnit! can only imagine how insanely smooth it is..

10.5 grams of shit

 
WarMachine

WarMachine

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So how does one winterize? Is it something I do immeditily after doing my BHO extract? I add 91%+ ISO (or everclear) to the just sprayed BHO and then I put it in the freezer?
 
Twitch

Twitch

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WarMachine said:
So how does one winterize? Is it something I do immeditily after doing my BHO extract? I add 91%+ ISO (or everclear) to the just sprayed BHO and then I put it in the freezer?
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no you dont have to do it immediately after making the bho, and dont use 91 iso use 95 everclear or better
 
WarMachine

WarMachine

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Twitch. said:
no you dont have to do it immediately after making the bho, and dont use 91 iso use 95 everclear or better
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Ok sounds good Twitch. I will get some Everclear. I do have 99% ISO, would that work? What exactly do I do? Just pour until all submerged then freeze (longer the better?) then strain?
 
Twitch

Twitch

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yes, it would, i have wanted to try 99 iso but its easier to get ever clear, i use 1 table spoon of everclear or 99iso per gram of bho
 
WarMachine

WarMachine

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Ahhh ok I'll try that next time! Thanks Twitch! To be honest, they are both kinda hard to get for me. I have to order either of them online, only 91% ISO available on shelf near me :-/ And Acetone..
 
Fadedawg

Fadedawg

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Twitch. said:
when you say shatter, how are you making shatter?

When i do get a shatter from some of my winterized stuff that didnt wax up. it actually seems to loose its potency over time vs. my wax This is one of the reasons i do small batches of winterized stuff, I truly noticed a difference in potency. I am not saying this just to argue, because your logic makes since as far as being more exposed to oxygen and oxidizing, but i feel in the wax state it seems to preserve itself. one idea is because there are actual plant waxes in it, but i am forced to re think that theory, because my some winterized stuff waxes, but not all of it, and i have not kept enough of the winterized wax around for an extended period of time and try to compare the potency,

sorry stoned rambling fad if you can make sense of that let me know what you think
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I make shatter these days by doing a cold extraction and vacuum purging at -29.5 Hg and 115F.

When I winterize, I cold boil off the alcohol at the same temperature and vacuum level.

Here are some pictures of oleoresin shatter, on the way to making muffins and wax. Oven runaway, so the color is a little dark, but I think you get the idea.
 

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Fadedawg

Fadedawg

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WarMachine said:
So how does one winterize? Is it something I do immeditily after doing my BHO extract? I add 91%+ ISO (or everclear) to the just sprayed BHO and then I put it in the freezer?
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Re-dissolve a non polar extraction like BHO, in a polar solvent like Ethanol, and drop the temperature to around 0F long enough for the non polar waxes to precipitate out, so that they can be removed by filtration.
 
650baquet

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Fadedawg said:
Re-dissolve a non polar extraction like BHO, in a polar solvent like Ethanol, and drop the temperature to around 0F long enough for the non polar waxes to precipitate out, so that they can be removed by filtration.
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I think I might be the only one in my town/area with winterized oil. Anyone I've talked to so far goes wtf is winterizing. I pretty much tell them what you just said. Kinda want a T-shirt that just says winterizer on it lol.
 
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