BHO with Vacuum oil/wax tutorial

NTBugtraq

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Lols Guzias1, you gave no info, but asked for a pic of goo. I admitted it was goo, how would giving you a pic serve anyone? No, I don't recognize you, you showed pictures of finger hash in an BHO thread, is finger hash something that can be made?

I’m a nutbag? That’s a harsh welcome, but I’m totally newb so I’ll take the slight. Pls, bring the knowledge;

So, scraping off of glass is for the better ppl, finding a way to not do that makes me bad. Strike 2.

Well, I’m going to blast on silpat. It won’t absorb anything, unlike PP, and is totally workable from min. 1. I don’t think any flav is going to make me think otherwise, it’s the way to go…unless you’re willing to loose product or heat shit up beyond the 95F.

Still not sure why I am a nutbag, but, as I said, I’m only the tech, perhaps that’s a nice way of talking about me, but dude, it sounds offensive…;-], so let’s leave it there.

FWIW, if what you blast on, or put shit on, can possibly make such a diff then someone shoulda made a bigger point earlier. It was made clear to me, very early, that wax paper isn’t parchment. But it wasn’t made clear that you can blast clear through PP, which is why you blast to pyrex (am I committing a sin by saying “bakeware” is pyrex in this regard?) Ok, but silpat is a brand name, not a description of some unknown shit. Blast all you want, nothing comes back, I wait for someone to prove otherwise.

I don’t get this petty “I will tell you something I know” that isn’t based on any science…shit.
 

CBR420RR

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I think transitional times are mostly strain dependant.

Unknown Kush, 1 hour of massaging, 4 straight hours at 28.5:

 

Twitch

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omg I'm a troll
yes dude unfortunately for you Guzias does know his shit
he did post up finger hash but the fellow contributors that make up the C&E section of RIU are going to back up Guzias

i assure you his post had more of a joking tone to it then anything, because i dont not advocate the 95 degree purge i like mine at 120 and i like my wax sybian likes his shatter
 

Guzias1

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I don't know your name well enough, thus the nutbag. Its easier for me to remember :) if you care to go into discussion about the name. Please do so, it may help me out..

also, i have terrible eye sight, so accept that.

you may get slapped around a bit in here, it ain't no sticky so any bs can fly :)

p.s. I've been blasting onto parchment for a while.. Its a delicate process, and easier to fuck up, too many times has the paper ripped, (loose oil) .. Scraping is better if you can't fit the collection Pyrex into your vac chamber.
 

Guzias1

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P.s. P.s.
That finger hash was epic. And that was the pre cursor to my next run. ~220 fresh buds . Shatterrrrrrr yes. Tonight. Yesssss.
 

NTBugtraq

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https://www.flickr.com/photos/27208216@N06/11950085705/player/8d85739d98

Ok, can't figure out how to post the pictures from my flickr account, and the uploader (even the basic uploader) isn't working for me.

The link above is the initial muffin. 90g of the same 3-yr-old material blasted with 3 cans.

If you go to the left side of the picture, you will get a link to the reshape after 1 hr. at 106F. Looking pretty good, and definitely not goo. Its already fairly stable even at 106F.
 

NTBugtraq

New Member
Ok, so this is the initial muffin.



This is after 1 hour.



And this after 2 hours.



Bubbles still shrink after turning off pressure. I'm taking that as a sign that it still isn't shatter, right? Temp has stayed at 105F throughout.
 

NTBugtraq

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So, after another hour, shatter. I had taken the silpat out to adjust the temp in the vac and while it sat on the room temp table, it got so hard that when I went to fold it back to the center it cracked in lots of places.
So, back into the vaq with the temp turned up to 115F now. If I understand Guisa’s initial outline, after it turns to shatter it then turns to wax with a bit more heat. Here’s hoping.
 

Guzias1

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suree, it looks like you gots it going right.. if you had it shatter at 106F . that means you probably aint tooo far. at 115, you should eventually start to see the clear oil fog up.. this is good, dont rush, let it ride out.

guisa hehehee. thanks nutbag
 

NTBugtraq

New Member
suree, it looks like you gots it going right.. if you had it shatter at 106F . that means you probably aint tooo far. at 115, you should eventually start to see the clear oil fog up.. this is good, dont rush, let it ride out.

guisa hehehee. thanks nutbag
I honestly thought I got that name right…sorry Guzias.

Ok, so back in April you said you opened your vaq and reshaped on average 15 times to achieve muffin. My question is, after you got shatter and are going for wax, do you continue to devaq and reshape? If so, at what increments (every 15 min, 30 min??)

115F achieved and steady now. New setup because I was worried about what someone else said about their inside temp and the griddle temp getting closer to each other over time. So I got a Redi-Chek BBQ thermo in the vaq, probe between the plate and the silpat (so under the oil.) That coupled with a remote monitor with a high temp sensor set at 120F. I can now leave it purging overnight and, should the temp rise to much, get a wake up call.

Final question at this time Guzias, assuming the temp stays at 115F overnight, and assuming it waxed up 2 hours from now, will leaving it in the chamber, pump running full, overnight do anything bad to the wax? Will the extra time after it turns to wax matter?
 

NTBugtraq

New Member
FYI, I thought it was stable at 115F, but it went up as high as 118F. At 118F the shatter stopped bubbling and went perfectly clear. So at this point, I have either heated it up to much (but only raising it 3F) and turned it into goo, or, my attempt now to lower the temp, devaq, and reform will result in wax. OMG, this is truly finicky. My griddle is a Proctor and Silex, cheapo. I definitely have to find a better way to apply that heat so I can control it more finely. The griddle's control rotates like 15 degrees before actually changing the temp. Who cares if you're frying eggs, but sucks when trying to go from 118F to 115F...;-]

You know, I’ve spent 30 yrs in computers and right now I wish someone had made a cheap device with no more tek than a PVR and put it into a heating device. I am going to put a large silpat on top of the griddle now to even out the heat being applied to the chamber. I can only hope this makes for an even smaller increment in heat at the oil. Silpats even out heat across their entire surface, so it should help. Whether it helps enough remains to be seen.
 
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