BHO with Vacuum oil/wax tutorial

BCOGYODA

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Oil isn't completely predictable. Different strains and different ages of material will give you different results occurring at different temperatures.
If you are playing with the same material every time then it's more predictable what temps and lengths of purging will take you to where you want to be. But if you are playing with different material all the time you will find it's a learning curve all over again.

You should be able to shatter at 90F then keep it purging and raise the temp up gradually till you get wax. But do it very gradually in small increments cause if you go to warm too quick you will end up with the dreaded GOOOOOOOOOP
 

blackforest

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Blasted into dish, scraped onto parchment
in vac chamber on heat at 120 deg 'boiling'

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purged at 120ish chamber temp for awhile, transparent 'shatter'
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raising the temp to chamber 140-150ish
you can see the shatter patty starting to honeycomb over
kinda goes from the middle out

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keep purging under heat...
edges are still transparent
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And then...........
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Guzias1

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dayuummmm 140-150 is highhhhh. i had like two runs turn out good at those temps.

what vacuum are you at with those temps?
 

NTBugtraq

New Member
I took someone's earlier advice and took a break last night. I left my patty at room temp/pressure. This morning, rock hard unsticky shatter...good! So, its back into the chamber under full vaq, and I'll be raising the temp a few degrees (between 3-5F) every 30 mins. Sound like a plan?
 

CBR420RR

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I took someone's earlier advice and took a break last night. I left my patty at room temp/pressure. This morning, rock hard unsticky shatter...good! So, its back into the chamber under full vaq, and I'll be raising the temp a few degrees (between 3-5F) every 30 mins. Sound like a plan?

That'll get you waxified.
 

Guzias1

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gifted pressed kief!!!


Purple kush!!!


ron burgundy kush!! (related to finger hash/clone picture prior, and this harvest was from the same plant we cloned in flower/re-vegging now)


both oils muffined room temp.

melted down at 120, purged the waxy one for about 2.5 hours.

purged shatter looking one for a little under one hour.

let sit over night.

placed both in vac at 120ish for 30 minutes. RBK nearly waxed, PK not so much.

both are sitting out in 90F dehumidifying
 

NTBugtraq

New Member
That'll get you waxified.
So, an update. Starting at ~10:30am, temps at 30 min intervals: 103, 105, 107, 109, 111, 113, 116, 119, 121, 125…so at 3:30pm I devaq’d and reshaped, took ½ hour to reheat the silpat, so at 4:00pm I was at 126F again.

Throughout this the patty has looked very shiny, like clear shatter, but there has been continuous bubbling, just not very many at a time (maybe 5 – 10). Carrying on this process till I’m ready for bed, or it waxes.

Fingers crossed.
 

Guzias1

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Coo. Coo. Ok. Its hard to tell without bubble action..

that still looks very transparent though ..

why are you at 25 hg? ???

elevation? Pump?
 

smokajoe

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definitely is elevation, lol I spent 4 hours calling the manufacture, emptying and refilling oil, alligning all hoses etc, then found a chart showing it drops from elevation!
 

Guzias1

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Okkk then. I would think full vac and 140will get you too perms gooo after x amount of hours.

try the crackle test on a bowl. Does it melt and smoke clean?
 

smokajoe

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it melts, but then a little crackle! I really want to make budder-but doubt this one will budder up! Also my damn griddle seems off so its more like 150 degrees, just got my IR thermometer so should be good next time-any cheap effect griddles you all recommend?
 

Guzias1

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ok ok, so you keep saying griddle is 150F...

what is really more important is the surface area of the actual oil inside the chamber..

cheap griddles work great for me, and sand..

take that NEW IR thermo . with the griddle being at 150F.. check the temperature of the actual oil you gonna smoke.. ( you need a good reading, any chamber, or lid in between will give you a reflected temp of something un important = wrong.....)

now wtffff is the temperature of the actual oil :]

im thinking 130F

you need to fine tune what ever griddle you use. do dry runs. with my griddle, the metal it heats up will be about 135F, while my actual oil is 125F in my chamber...

pps.s.s.s.ss sounds like you are going wayyyy too fucken hot. as a newbie. you need to start off lower. good smoking tasting oil , is better than burnt newb faiils.

iiiii would know
 

NTBugtraq

New Member
Haven’t figured out how to take a picture of my bubbling action as its only happening when the oil is under pressure, the minute I start to drop pressure the bubbling stops. If a take a pic though the vaq lid, all I get is a picture of the flash.

Anyway, 30 min intervals again, 126, 130, 134, 137, 141, 143, 144. No wax yet. I’ve decided to leave the temp here for now, possibly overnight. All this time at full vaq.

Patty is getting thinner, spreading out over more of the silpat. It is perfectly clear, and the surface is shiny. The most interesting thing is the bubbling action now. There are, on average, 4-5 larger bubbles going at a time. They’re maybe slightly smaller in dia than a pen. They grow and burst quickly. Even more interesting are the 40-50 tiny bubbles. These are no bigger than a pin point, and they disappear almost instantly, but they’re everywhere. Reminds me of good champagne.

To Guzias’ point about temperatures. My griddle is set to 200F now. My temperature probe is in the chamber sitting on top of a ceramic plate, which sits on the bottom of the chamber. It reads the temp there, under the silpat at 154F. That's 10F more than the oil temp. So yeah, you gotta get the temp of the oil to be sure of anything worth remembering. So, for me, 200F griddle setting equals 144F oil temp.
 

Guzias1

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probablyyyyy. keep nuken it. or stop, and try a new batch, but follow the guidelines to the first post of this thread a bit more...
 
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