hanimmal
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At least we don't bend a knee to letting someone call themselves royalty over you.
Biden's decision to cancel Keystone is one the US will eventually regret.
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Fogdog
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Agree.
None of it can be considered clean. Not one drop of any would I put on my salad.
TacoMac
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We're talking about the Keystone XL pipeline. Not the Keystone pipeline. They are two completely different things. Biden cancelled the XL. The regular Keystone line is still in use.
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printer
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You said the pipeline does not go anywhere near Texas. From Steele City to Port Arthur the pipeline has been twinned as part of the pipeline project. Your map even says what the phases are and phase 3b goes to Texas. The reason the pipeline was increased from Steele city is to take the extra oil from the XL phase. The capacity increase was carried out because that part did not cross an international border and did not have to be approved by the State Department. The State Department approved the XL development until politics came into play.
This is mainly a fight of environmentalists not wanting any oil coming out of the ground. I am for that also but we will not be there in my lifetime. So what will happen given the refineries in Texas will still be operating? They will get the oil they need from Canada by train or from Venezuela. Same grade of oil.
printer
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No, but the legs between Steele City and Port Arthur are complete. Without the expansion the XL phase would be a waste of time as there would not be room to go to Texas. Really do not understand your earlier point that it does not go to Texas. It does not go to Texas as it was canceled. But if the XL portion was allowed to be built the complete oil line to Texas would have been built.
TacoMac
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It is now abundantly clear to me that you're one of those people who even when they realize they made a mistake you will never, ever admit it.
NONE of what I said EVER referred to ANYTHING other than the Keystone XL pipeline. In fact, here is what I said:
But once I pointed all of that out to you, you keep on and on and on talking about the other pipelines that are there that I already said were there before you ever entered this conversation.
You jumped in here to prove me wrong on something you knew nothing about. Once I pointed out to you that you were wrong, you keep on with the most moronic defense I've ever seen.
Now go back, start all over again, and come up with either a better argument to defend your patent stupidity, or just let it go.
NONE of what I said EVER referred to ANYTHING other than the Keystone XL pipeline. In fact, here is what I said:
But you made the mistake of not even knowing what the XL pipeline was and kept on and on and on about the regular Keystone pipeline that I ALREADY STATED EXISTED.
But once I pointed all of that out to you, you keep on and on and on talking about the other pipelines that are there that I already said were there before you ever entered this conversation.
You jumped in here to prove me wrong on something you knew nothing about. Once I pointed out to you that you were wrong, you keep on with the most moronic defense I've ever seen.
Now go back, start all over again, and come up with either a better argument to defend your patent stupidity, or just let it go.
printer
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I made the mistake of not knowing what it was? Really? Been following it for years.
The "other pipeline' was built by TC Energy as part of the attempt to get oil from Alberta to Texas. The pipeline did not already exist before they started on XL. They added the capacity to accommodate the XL pipeline. I still do not understand the point where I am wrong. Maybe I do not understand your point, 'XL does not go to Texas'. The XL phase does not go in a straight line to Texas. Is that what you are saying? Not that I really care.
You want to say you won? Fine by me. I really do not care about winning. But in my mind the project was to lay pipe from northern Alberta to the Gulf Coast refineries. They managed to complete the parts that did not need Federal approval. Good day to you sir.
TacoMac
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The XL was never completed. In fact, they're considering selling the entire thing for scrap. It's dead.
If it was never completed, which it wasn't, then how the hell do you still insist it goes to Texas?
It can't even move oil as far as Nebraska.
The OP made the point that without the XL, Texas wouldn't get any oil.
You apparently agree with him.
You're both wrong.
That is the point.
Edit to add : https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2021-01-23/cancelled-keystone-xl-pipeline-may-yield-48-000-tons-of-scrap
If it was never completed, which it wasn't, then how the hell do you still insist it goes to Texas?
It can't even move oil as far as Nebraska.
The OP made the point that without the XL, Texas wouldn't get any oil.
You apparently agree with him.
You're both wrong.
That is the point.
Edit to add : https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2021-01-23/cancelled-keystone-xl-pipeline-may-yield-48-000-tons-of-scrap
the existing already leaks hence the employees to maintain..unless you're Texas- wait a minute..
i take that as Candians are not amused.
CunningCanuk
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rkymtnman
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that's why i said "all of our aging pipelines".
CunningCanuk
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The T is not only silent but invisible
rkymtnman
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oldmustang
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solar farms HAHAHA what a fucking laugh! They performed real well during the last freeze, right next to the still wind turbines.
Fogdog
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I bought a cheap used car and am angry because it doesn't corner like a Ferrari. Therefore cars don't corner.