BML Horticulture

BML is producing their version of a grow light. They have the SPYDR 600 and a 1000 to come. They seem to be a slightly more powerful version of the Illumitex offering. I see little in the way of cooling fins on their heat sink/housing. Anyone here used these lights? Whats your opinion of them?

Red1966 said:

BML is producing their version of a grow light. They have the SPYDR 600 and a 1000 to come. They seem to be a slightly more powerful version of the Illumitex offering. I see little in the way of cooling fins on their heat sink/housing. Anyone here used these lights? Whats your opinion of them?

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My favorite light, I've been running it now for 2 diff crops, fucking incredible

If you look in the forum sections, you will see I have done a full review

I have been using a 600 with my selection of spectrums for 2 weeks

Come by to follow along

The breeder, whose seeds I am using, is blown away

Bricksquad2625 said:

If you look in the forum sections, you will see I have done a full review

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Got a link? I emailed BML about costs for two. Hydrobuilder seems to be the only retailer as yet. They sell the SPYDR 600 for $999 + $25 shipping on ebay or $999 no shipping direct from their web site. They're expecting the 1000 to sell for $1699. Seems to be just adding 4 more bars, possibly a different driver.

Bricksquad2625 said:

My favorite light, I've been running it now for 2 diff crops, fucking incredible

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Is it necessary to keep a fan directly on them. It doesn't appear to have much in the way of cooling fins that I can see. I'm concerned they may run too hot.

http://www.bmlhorticulture.com/multi-bar-fixtures/

I am running a fan so half is going to the canopy the other half over the bars/driver

Bars got much cooler after that, which is supposed to improve PAR efficacy

PetFlora said:

http://www.bmlhorticulture.com/multi-bar-fixtures/

I am running a fan so half is going to the canopy the other half over the bars/driver

Bars got much cooler after that, which is supposed to improve PAR efficacy

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lol... so by design they are inefficient?

PetFlora said:

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they are more efficient with a fan... yet they dont use one

why wouldn't they want a more efficient panel...not a less efficient one...isnt that what companies stive for.... efficiency?


so not adding a fan for cooling is an inherent design flaw = bad design

thanks PET

NO NO NO! Stop turning good threads bad, the BOTH of you. YES, it is a flaw but calling ppl names or being smart isn't what this is here for.

We need to start taking into consideration where the lights are being applied. climate- the surrounding air's temps, the amount of air in the environment itself! Maybe they werent designed for us closer/cab/nook and cranny growers, maybe that's why they run warm. Or maybe they were and the environment itself is out of spec. My AT runs hot but at the same time they use fans (yea, maybe they could be bigger- but then comes the question of where's the point I diminishing reruns, would it help, would it not...) <--- all q/a for who put the panels together in the first place. But I'm also sure they weren't expecting growers to use a greenhouse style light in a cab with a footprint smaller than a 2x3, or less than ideal conditions. In a 3x3 I can set it a forget it.

....damn!

I looked at your other thread. I see you went the custom order route, using mostly white chips. Was the "grow-max" spectrum too red for you? I think it seems very heavy in red, but yours seems too be kind of light in the red spectrum/

PetFlora said:

http://www.bmlhorticulture.com/multi-bar-fixtures/

I am running a fan so half is going to the canopy the other half over the bars/driver

Bars got much cooler after that, which is supposed to improve PAR efficacy

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PetFlora said:

Poor Spaz just likes throwing mud on anything I say about BML.
He literally makes a negative response to every post I make about BML

I simply cannot let him get away with confusing noobs who are asking honest questions

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lets break this down for a second....

-Buds doubled in 3 days....

-Telling people to spend a grand on a light after 8 days...

-Admitting BML isnt focused on MJ growing at the moment....


are among some of the posts that you have written on the guise of helping noobs out...so you are doing a fine job on slinging mud on BML yourself...

we have yet to see the longevity of this light and you have yet to do a grow from clone/seed to finish....

its clear why you have been so over the top from day one of receiving it... you are desperate to keep this free light...

your opinions are doing more to steer people away from BML than they are helping it due to your complete lack of honesty and neutrality...

Here's why I don't sub alot

spazatak said:

they are more efficient with a fan... yet they dont use one

why wouldn't they want a more efficient panel...not a less efficient one...isnt that what companies stive for.... efficiency?


so not adding a fan for cooling is an inherent design flaw = bad design

thanks PET

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I would rather have one fan on my plants and my bars, then mediocore fans on my actually unit consuming watts, but thats just me

Red1966 said:

Is it necessary to keep a fan directly on them. It doesn't appear to have much in the way of cooling fins that I can see. I'm concerned they may run too hot.

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You keep a fan on the light bars and it cools them and raises your PAR, is what Nick from BML is stating. I'm assuming it has to do with the unit running more efficiently when cooler. Not really a big deal since most people have fans pointed at their grows to begin with.

PetFlora said:

No matter how hard spaz tries to disparage it (he is relentless), the SPYDR is WORKING REALLY WELL

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I have never disparaged the light...I have highlighted your lies and lack of neutrality... big difference

Bricksquad2625 said:

I would rather have one fan on my plants and my bars, then mediocore fans on my actually unit consuming watts, but thats just me

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yeah your right.. all the DIY guys and major LED light manufacturers feel the same...

Red1966 said:

Got a link? I emailed BML about costs for two. Hydrobuilder seems to be the only retailer as yet. They sell the SPYDR 600 for $999 + $25 shipping on ebay or $999 no shipping direct from their web site. They're expecting the 1000 to sell for $1699. Seems to be just adding 4 more bars, possibly a different driver.

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First buy from BML directly, Nick can customize your light spectrum to your needs or you can choose theirs, so start doing some research on what spectrum you are looking for and what your needs are if you decide to customize

Red1966 said:

Got a link? I emailed BML about costs for two. Hydrobuilder seems to be the only retailer as yet. They sell the SPYDR 600 for $999 + $25 shipping on ebay or $999 no shipping direct from their web site. They're expecting the 1000 to sell for $1699. Seems to be just adding 4 more bars, possibly a different driver.

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I am using the grow max spectrum http://www.bmlhorticulture.com/spydr-600-grow-max-spectrum/

Nick can make anything a SPYDER so choose look through everthing they have to offer.

If I could do it all over again, I would make a spyder out of this

http://www.bmlhorticulture.com/led-light-bar-solar-max-spectrum/

reason is because it includes the far red and thats awesome for flowering.