#Brexit & #Texit

tangerinegreen555 said:
Your doctor can't do brain surgery on you either without proper training, certification and licensing...

want to change that too?

want repeated DUI people on the roads...so they smash into you?

your idea of "freedom" is "free for all chaos"

typical right wing whining...nothing new.

Nuts
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Drunk driving should be legal, the numbers don't make sense. Another nugget as to why we aren't a free country. A free country wouldn't impose laws on the whole population because of less than 1% of the population.

You know the saying "freedomn isn't free". It doesn't just apply to dead soldiers, it applies to everyone wanting to live in that society. If you want true freedom you need to be willing to accept the dangers that come with it. Otherwise what you want is a not too strict authoritarian government, which is more like what we have.
 
tangerinegreen555 said:
Tell it to the families who lost a 20 yr. old to a drunk.

You people like a lawless society?

You don't like property taxes? But you do want city water, roads, bridges, sewage systems, police protection?

Nothing is free.
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I empathize with the 20 yr olds family, but again I wouldn't enact laws effecting the much greater majority because of a small percentage of the population.

I like a society with minimal, common sense laws. Tearing a tag off a mattress shouldn't be a punishable offence, by law.

I don't mind paying for municipal services. What bothers me is that they aren't a priority, all these systems are failing around the country. .aging water supplies, crumbling bridges, leaky sewers, ..police protection. .lol. If government maintained and upgraded this shit in a timely manner, I probably wouldn't care as much what they did with the surplus budget.
It's definitely not free, we're being way overcharged.
 
WeedFreak78 said:
I empathize with the 20 yr olds family, but again I wouldn't enact laws effecting the much greater majority because of a small percentage of the population.

I like a society with minimal, common sense laws. Tearing a tag off a mattress shouldn't be a punishable offence, by law.

I don't mind paying for municipal services. What bothers me is that they aren't a priority, all these systems are failing around the country. .aging water supplies, crumbling bridges, leaky sewers, ..police protection. .lol. If government maintained and upgraded this shit in a timely manner, I probably wouldn't care as much what they did with the surplus budget.
It's definitely not free, we're being way overcharged.
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You just don't get it. If the 1% ALSO paid their fair share...

well, never fucking mind...just whine on
 
I was talking to someone who didn't think this could happen the other day, and was saying that Texas would lose big companies like Amazon, etc. because they are in Texas for the tax breaks.

And I made the ppoint that NAFTA only applies to the countries that signed it. One thing Texas could do as a Sovereign nation is tariffs. If you look at a map of America's highways, on the Southern part of the map they go from around the middle of Cali, through Nevada, through Utah, through Colorado, through Kansas, then up North toward New York and down South Toward Florida. Then there are highways from Colorado through New Mexico or Oklahoma, then through Texas, to Mexico. Then from Southern California, through Arizona, through New Mexico, through Texas, through Louisiana, etc, to Florida.

So Texas could put tariffs on goods shipped through Texas, and make a ton of money. If people don't pay Texas, they will have to go up through Colorado to ship everything, which would cost more anyways because gas costs a little more there (especially in the mountains) and there is more risk of accidents happening. So people will pay to go through Texas because they won't really be saving money if they don't.
 
tangerinegreen555 said:
And by the way they taught us damn yankees the same Texas history as part of American history...
You think we never heard of the Alamo or Sam Houston?

Gimme a break already...
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LOL

You think learning about it as part of another class is the same as what we do? We take an entire class called Texas History, where all we do for an hour a day is learn about Texas. The only reason I mentioned Sam Houston and the Alamo is because I know its the part everyone knows. We learn WAAAAYYY more.
 
Finshaggy said:
LOL

You think learning about it as part of another class is the same as what we do? We take an entire class called Texas History, where all we do for an hour a day is learn about Texas. The only reason I mentioned Sam Houston and the Alamo is because I know its the part everyone knows. We learn WAAAAYYY more.
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You have no way of knowing that, do you?

Nope.
 
And, in case you forgot what "Remember the Alamo" means.

Several thousand soldiers under the command of Mexican Gen. Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna had Travis and some 189 other defenders surrounded.

The young Texas colonel - only 26 - was a lawyer, not a professional military man, but Travis knew enough history to understand that in a siege, the army on the outside usually prevails over the army on the inside.

So he gathered his fellow defenders that Saturday afternoon and gave them a speech.

"We must die," he began. "Our business is not to make a fruitless effort to save our lives, but to choose the manner of our death."

He saw three possibilities: Surrender and summary execution, trying to fight their way out only to be "butchered" by Mexican lancers or "remain in this fort…resist every assault, and to sell our lives as dearly as possible."

Then, with a flourish, Travis drew his sword and slowly marked a line in the dirt. "I now want every man who is determined to stay here and die with me to come across this line."

Young Tapley Holland made his decision quickly, proclaiming "I am ready to die for my country!" as he jumped over the line. It's hard to picture it as a stampede - the men knew they were voting to die - but all but two of them walked over the line. Co-commander Jim Bowie, lying sick on a cot, asked some of his men to carry him across. Only Louis Moses Rose, a French soldier of fortune, remained behind.
 
Finshaggy said:
And, in case you forgot what "Remember the Alamo" means.

Several thousand soldiers under the command of Mexican Gen. Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna had Travis and some 189 other defenders surrounded.

The young Texas colonel - only 26 - was a lawyer, not a professional military man, but Travis knew enough history to understand that in a siege, the army on the outside usually prevails over the army on the inside.

So he gathered his fellow defenders that Saturday afternoon and gave them a speech.

"We must die," he began. "Our business is not to make a fruitless effort to save our lives, but to choose the manner of our death."

He saw three possibilities: Surrender and summary execution, trying to fight their way out only to be "butchered" by Mexican lancers or "remain in this fort…resist every assault, and to sell our lives as dearly as possible."

Then, with a flourish, Travis drew his sword and slowly marked a line in the dirt. "I now want every man who is determined to stay here and die with me to come across this line."

Young Tapley Holland made his decision quickly, proclaiming "I am ready to die for my country!" as he jumped over the line. It's hard to picture it as a stampede - the men knew they were voting to die - but all but two of them walked over the line. Co-commander Jim Bowie, lying sick on a cot, asked some of his men to carry him across. Only Louis Moses Rose, a French soldier of fortune, remained behind.
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at least link the sites you steal shit from
http://www.texasescapes.com/MikeCoxTexasTales/Line-in-the-Sand-Alamo-History.htm
 
Finshaggy said:
I have no way of knowing what? I didn't mention anything that you didn't post.

You said "I know all about Sam Houston and the Alamo" and I basically laughed at you. What do you mean "You have no way of knowing that"
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You said that you learned 'WAAAAYYY more' about Texas history in school.

And you have no way of knowing that. Period...
Unless you went to my school(s) too.

I got nothing against you kid, but you do copy and paste out your ass sometimes...
 
And once Texas leaves the Union, whether that be soon, or some time in the distant future. There are at least 5 other States that will leave right after that.
 
tangerinegreen555 said:
You said that you learned 'WAAAAYYY more' about Texas history in school.

And you have no way of knowing that. Period...
Unless you went to my school(s) too.

I got nothing against you kid, but you do copy and paste out your ass sometimes...
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LOL

I have every way of knowing that. We took a class called Texas History. And you are claiming that you learned about Texas in US History, we took US History too.
LOFL

You are hilarious.
 
What you are basically saying is "I took Science, so I know about Chemistry", and sure, you know about Chemistry in that situation. But you don't really know anything about Chemistry.
 
Finshaggy said:
LOL

I have every way of knowing that. We took a class called Texas History. And you are claiming that you learned about Texas in US History, we took US History too.
LOFL

You are hilarious.
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what is really hilarious Finny...
was you saying federal troops won't fire on Texas... try seceding and see what happens...now THAT's hilarious...till you see the blood.

Ever hear of Kent State?
 
tangerinegreen555 said:
what is really hilarious Finny...
was you saying federal troops won't fire on Texas... try seceding and see what happens...now THAT's hilarious...till you see the blood.

Ever hear of Kent State?
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Kent State wasn't in Texas. About 1/5 of the Military is made up of Texans.
I think you are really confused about what I am saying about everything.I didn't say there was no situation where someone in the Military would shoot an American. I said you can't make Texans go to Texas to subvert the will of other Texans. And I also never said no shots would be fired, I said it would cause a divide in the Military.

And again, when has Kent State ever been held up by the military as an example of what they will do in ANY situation in the future? It's really pointless to bring it up. That's more like a "Never again" thing, not an example of what happens. :lol:
Are you stupid, or just making jokes?
 
Finshaggy said:
Kent State wasn't in Texas. About 1/5 of the Military is made up of Texans.
I think you are really confused about what I am saying about everything.I didn't say there was no situation where someone in the Military would shoot an American. I said you can't make Texans go to Texas to subvert the will of other Texans. And I also never said no shots would be fired, I said it would cause a divide in the Military.

And again, when has Kent State ever been held up by the military as an example of what they will do in ANY situation in the future? It's really pointless to bring it up. That's more like a "Never again" thing, not an example of what happens. :lol:
Are you stupid, or just making jokes?
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OK...now I understand why the others say you have no merit...

they were right, I was wrong...
 
Just as an example of what I am talking about, if you ask anyone in Texas "Which flag is supposed to be higher when flown side by side, the Texas flag or the American flag?" even though there is no formal rule, every Texan will tell you that the Texas flag goes higher than the American flag. And the Lone Star on the flag, literally is a symbol that we do not need 50 stars, that is what the Lone Star means.

And just as another example, the Texas State flower, the Bluebonnet. If you ask any Texan "Is it ok if I go pick a Bluebonnet?", any Texan will tell you that it is illegal. But there isn't really a law, it's just been passed down generation after generation that it is illegal.
 
And this has been hijacked by Gun Rights Activists, but this was the original Texas State flag. Mexico gave the Tejanos a cannon to protect themselves from the Natives, then asked for the cannon back. And the Tejanos made this flag.
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All I'm saying is that if there is a Political campaign in Texas for a Texit, the History is here and the people do have the will whenever the History is equivalent to a current issue. That is what Texas is about.

If there is a campaign, a lot of people will at first say they don't want to leave the Union. But once the campaign gets going and a vote gets closer, and people start hearing debates and seeing people speak, they will want to leave the Union. And will leave.
 
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