BUD WASHING- the truth

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hyroot

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Maybe. Anyway, I guess if bud washing didn't work for you then you're stuck with dirty buds, assuming all the gunk you see build up on circulation fan blades also gets on buds.

No I keep a clean room and clean fans. I grow natural organically. A mix of no till, permaculture. And Korean natural farming.


You guys are funny. I don't like it so you talk shit.

You should be more concerned with the chemicals your body absorbs from smoking your chem grown pot.
 
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driel

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Strange, I took to testing it with a new strain I harvested for the first time (congo) to see if I was getting any loss. Scoped out specific parts of the plant I washed and didn't have any of my trichomes wash off at all. Checked about 4 branches like this and didn't notice any loss but my tray definitely got a little dirtier. I do it because my room is open so dust is just naturally moving around. I'm curious why yours are washing off.
 

testiclees

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No I keep a clean room and clean fans. I grow natural organically. A mix of no till, permaculture. And Korean natural farming.


You guys are funny. I don't like it so you talk shit.

You should be more concerned with the chemicals your body absorbs from smoking your chem grown pot.
Youre mistaken again bro. It's not that we're "funny". Your head is swollen if you believe we give a shit about "what you like". We are interested in what works/best practices. When you make a generalized (mistaken) pronouncement you get called on it. That's how learning on the interweb works.

Then you go on to tell us "what we should be concerned about"! Like i said a few posts back give the know-it-all role a break.
 
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testiclees

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Strange, I took to testing it with a new strain I harvested for the first time (congo) to see if I was getting any loss. Scoped out specific parts of the plant I washed and didn't have any of my trichomes wash off at all. Checked about 4 branches like this and didn't notice any loss but my tray definitely got a little dirtier. I do it because my room is open so dust is just naturally moving around. I'm curious why yours are washing off.
Nice. I'm going to try and do the same in a few weeks. Ive never taken a precise image of the same bud before and after but i have a library of trichome jammed, washed bud pics.
 

Astro Aquanaut

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All I can say is wow... I can totally understand bud washing and from a "purist" view w/ medical and the monetization by main stream that bud washing will more than likely be accepted especially among the purist, medical, and health conscious crowd.. The Trichs are not going to fall off fresh bud easily from my experience with that being said it is more purist stuff where I can't find whole milk cheese sticks in a society of obese people ... I believe it comes down to a philosophical discussion on how clean is to clean, and different strokes for different folks... If I washed the bud I could see me catching some shit right off the bat with "Why the hell are you washing the bud", because it makes it cleaner?, "Why do you want to clean the buds you are killing the favor", but the flavor is the dirt, "I like the dirt leave it in you can wash your buds" LOL! Basically, that is similar to what we are seeing here once legalization takes place we are going to see this ultra purist FDA approved marijuana soccer mom herb washed irradiated tested freeze dried etc.. This is why we don't want the FDA over Cigars... Just my 2 cents from another nitwit that doesn't rank himself how long he has had 1 account on a forum... Another aspect is why would I wash the bud when I am just putting into a blunt which is made from tobacco that was fermented in a barn then rolled by hand by some Nicaraguan in a dust filled warehouse sweating in 80 degree heat wearing flip flops, some may like the full spectrum of complexity that the overall process adds to the final product.. ;)

It is similar to saying why smoke cigerettes vs vape because of the POISONS! Why smoke Cigars compared to cigarettes because the fermentation process which adds more poisons ;)

If there is dust in your grow room... You are inhaling that dust directly into your lungs.. If there is mite shit on your product then you probably covered in mite shit, and if you have fuzzies you are probably smoking, eating, and shitting fuzzies... That is my uneducated simplistic view of an overly sensitive populace...

By the way it doesn't matter how hard you wash that none organic potato that thing was drenched in chemicals from the day it felt its way into soil, shit it has genetic modifications to produce chemicals...

My apologies for going all hill billy but hey... I figured I would throw 2 cents in ;)
 
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2ANONYMOUS

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Hyroot said

Trichomes fall off very easily. They're designed that way by nature. When plants sleeps. More trichomes amd oils develop.

what the hell man if that was the case no need for ice water hash yeah think ??? i think you need a better understanding on why its best to dry buds in a dark place or how the plant replenishes its resin and trichomes ,,,,
What happens is trichomes deplete as the sun destroys them during the day and at night the plant repairs her self by producing more Trichomes which are a plants defense mechanism its got nothing to do with they fall of easy lol ,
this is why its mentioned that light and heat destroys THC
stop spewing non sense

As for water curing or bud washing got dam people have wild thoughts when stoned keep it simple grow weed , harvest weed dry weed cure weed and smoke weed
forget all the middle non sense that people try to make Flushing , defoliating, no nitrogen in flower , hanging buds upside down will add more weight lol ,,
thing to remember is once you chop a plant its dead and drying process occurs
less involvement with buds when trimming and handling should be number one rule
 

whitebb2727

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I think we both agree to avoid having it in the first place. Otherwise, there isn't anything definitive about harmful effects of PM if smoked or ingested with MJ. On the other hand there isn't anything that says its OK. Your opinion is just that and I don't know if its informed by medical research or not but I don't think so. Also, what about patients that are immune deficient?

All I'm saying is that I'm glad I grow my own and don't have mold on my weed because I don't want to be a mercy of a grower making a business decision about an infected crop.
I think the blue in my t5 has the same effect as UV light on water.

I've only had mold or pm on outdoor.

I think UV deters pm growth. I have not come to that conclusion but my gut tells me that science would back it up.
 

hyroot

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Hyroot said

Trichomes fall off very easily. They're designed that way by nature. When plants sleeps. More trichomes amd oils develop.

what the hell man if that was the case no need for ice water hash yeah think ??? i think you need a better understanding on why its best to dry buds in a dark place or how the plant replenishes its resin and trichomes ,,,,
What happens is trichomes deplete as the sun destroys them during the day and at night the plant repairs her self by producing more Trichomes which are a plants defense mechanism its got nothing to do with they fall of easy lol ,
this is why its mentioned that light and heat destroys THC
stop spewing non sense

As for water curing or bud washing got dam people have wild thoughts when stoned keep it simple grow weed , harvest weed dry weed cure weed and smoke weed
forget all the middle non sense that people try to make Flushing , defoliating, no nitrogen in flower , hanging buds upside down will add more weight lol ,,
thing to remember is once you chop a plant its dead and drying process occurs
less involvement with buds when trimming and handling should be number one rule

What I said was true. Your plants get rained on . The rain washes away trichome heads. The plant produces more trichomes. while it sleeps. I wasn't referring too when after its chopped it does that. Smh... make some hash and you will learn tbis. Grow some outdoor and you will learn this first hands.
 

su^

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@testiclees a little common sense goes a long way, it's called preventative maintenance. I get if you're foliar feeding you would want to wash that shit off but really how many guys foliar feed?

having a clean grow is one of the simplest things to do in order to achieve great results.

What's wrong with putting in a little more effort to be clean? Sorry I'm not lazy.
 

testiclees

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@testiclees a little common sense goes a long way, it's called preventative maintenance. I get if you're foliar feeding you would want to wash that shit off but really how many guys foliar feed?

having a clean grow is one of the simplest things to do in order to achieve great results.

What's wrong with putting in a little more effort to be clean? Sorry I'm not lazy.
No man I agree w you clean is the best way. But in practice most are not clean, many have pets, many have sub par exhaust, many smoke and relax in their grow rooms so In my view washing is only gonna help.

As far as foliar...you might be surprised. All the growers who follow High Brix and many of the followers of AEC use plenty of foliars. Combining the growers who are not as fastidious as you and those that use foliars there are loads of folks who could profit from washing.

As far as losing trichomes or negatively affecting flavor...this is a fiction created like other stoner "knowledge" to perpetuate myths and leave opportunities for change and improvement unexamined. On IC and 420 there are threads with expert growers who foliar and wash. A quick survey of their results will convince you that their bud is at virtuoso level. Im not claiming that bud washing is a requirement but there is no debate that bud washers produce weed that is as good as anything available.

Losing trichomes is an illogical reason for not washing.

1-Visible trichomes do not indicate strength or flavor.

2-If the trichomes lost in bud washing negatively effect the quality of your product then your buds are as flaccid as @hyroot 's agruments...you have far bigger problems to reckon with.

3-pictures of trichome jammed, washed buds are plentiful.

4-Plenty of expert growers are washing their bud. The lost trichome argument has been refuted again and again by top notch growers.
 

su^

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OK well I never said anything about trich reduction or anything related to that matter so I dont know who you're preaching to.

I mentioned I had pets but people that smoke and hang out in their grows have problems beyond my help of just basic common sense.

Subpar exhaust? Fuck man I feel like you just spew loads of Bullshit out of your mouth. If you start with shitty conditions you end up with shitty end results, no need to wash shitty bud. I'm not talking about foliar feeding either.

Just clean up after yourself and you won't have to waste your time washing your buds.
 

driel

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do you guys have any articles you can reference? I imagine there isn't a whole lot of research that's been done on trichomes and bud washing and the end result of doing/not doing in a chemical analysis.
 

Joe Blows Trees

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To the Op: where are the pics? I didn't see any posted by you.

After going through 12 pages I was hoping to see these "dirty" buds vs "clean" buds in picture form. Yeah, a few posts had trich pics, but they're "supposedly" clean already. I do try new things, but usually with more concrete evidence and results that can be seen.
 
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