Building a stealth Super Cabinet (at least im trying)

FullMetalJacket said:

Wow looks good man... Everyone has their own way of doing things and they all work, that is the beauty of it.

I would do the following -maybe no better than what you have

1. The carbon filter in the the flower cabinet. Could you maybe just put it above the shelve and have holes in the shelf? I was just thinking it would better use the space and eliminate that 90 right before the filter. You could even just put the ballast up in that area without its own chamber as well. BigBullballs or something has a similar design to what im referring to.

2. I think 12 plants may be too many. I would maybe do 2 or 3 at most and you yield would be the same or more. Less plants also means less trouble legally i believe in most places.
-If you do decide to do 12 plants you dont need all that height because you will have to keep the reallly small. I would even do two shelves of 6 with two smaller hps lights than go one shelf of 12.

3. I wouldnt waste using 2 carbon filters in the veg/mother/cab. Especially with one fan. Air pressure tends to flow the path of least resistance so you will have to play with it to get both filters drawing good amount of air. Having one up top and just putting passive vents into the floor and shelf will also allow you to simplify what appear to be complicated intakes. This will not decrease you exhauset quality at all...

I had trouble looking at your photo i would make it bigger so other people who know more than i can make comments as well. I think thats a great design and will work nice if you do it how you drew it, i just listed things i would change personally.

Maybe even your own thread would see more action as people dont really look at this one anymore.

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Good Job..

hey full.did your scrubber come with a flange...i just got mine and it didnt have one..guess i gotta buy it seperate...or make something

nickfury510 said:

hey full.did your scrubber come with a flange...i just got mine and it didnt have one..guess i gotta buy it seperate...or make something

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It didnt , i had ordered it seprately. Im not using mine though as my 8" fan fits into the filter real nice. What size flange you looking for?

im using 6" ducting with the 33 filter...

damn bro, nice work!
how many outlets does your box consumes in which ever room your plugging it into, and is it a 15amp or 20amp breaker the outlets run on.
only reason i ask, cause here in hott fukin sincity, the houses are put up in such a hurry around here and poorly made electrician errors can be found in almost any track house built out here. i've got a Sun System Vii (800watt) light that i tryed to get plugged in the other day and it tripped my 15amp breaker, only the light was plugged in at the time and when the timer kicked it on, poof no more power. sure wish i could have the skills that you've acquired!!! Keep up the good work.!!! Can't wait to see how things grow in your cab. wish i could get my to stay on for more then 1min.

happy building,
mAc

have you tried other outlets in the house with your light?

i want to try and keep my growcab in my bedroom, too paranoid to keep it anywhere else, till i perfect the stealth cab making art like FMJ..... man you can do wonders!!
till then i want to trial and error my grows in my bedroom. i've tested my light on mainly all the plugs that are in the room, still the same result.... doubt i'll find a grow friendly electrician out here to help me rewire a dedicated outlet or outlets, still don't know if one outlet will be enough, i still got alot of other gear to wire up, but nothing as demanding as this light......
mAc

ok... I'm just saying try the other outlets in the house. Your room is probably all on the same breaker. Then you will know whats fucked and can have it fixed. You can only put 1800 watts (barely) on a 15amp breaker.

its amps were dealin with not watts on start up of bulb the ballast assit will draw who nows what unless u check with a meter.to be safe better check serious FIRE HAZARD ,OH YEA IM A ELECTRICIAN PM ME IF U NEED HELP.

Anonymous7o2 said:

damn bro, nice work!
how many outlets does your box consumes in which ever room your plugging it into, and is it a 15amp or 20amp breaker the outlets run on.
only reason i ask, cause here in hott fukin sincity, the houses are put up in such a hurry around here and poorly made electrician errors can be found in almost any track house built out here. i've got a Sun System Vii (800watt) light that i tryed to get plugged in the other day and it tripped my 15amp breaker, only the light was plugged in at the time and when the timer kicked it on, poof no more power. sure wish i could have the skills that you've acquired!!! Keep up the good work.!!! Can't wait to see how things grow in your cab. wish i could get my to stay on for more then 1min.

happy building,
mAc

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my guess is there is a short in your lighting system......a 15a circuit is more than enough for one 800w lighting....seeing as most portable a.c. units run about 1400w and draw around 6-7 amps can run on the same circuit as a t.v. and other household items.....1 800w item should not be poping a 15a circuit...unless its drawing 12a or more on the start up...which i really doubt....try a new timer also....they can also cause circuits to trip.......

thats the bad thing about having it your room... I mean in my room i would not be able torun my system... Shit i have a 55 inch sony in my room with a ps3 a pc ..fans...normal lighting... the tv alone and the pc would be the killer of course... it might have to be out to the garage for you.... plus... if you do need to run a line... usually the box is on the outside of the garage.... you can explain a workshop in your garage alot better than in your room.... good luck

Anon, sounds like an electrical issue. I would definitely get that checked out for reasons more important than growing. All my equipment 600 mh/hps, water chiller, 270 watt t5, air pump, 3 inline fans, 3 circulating fans , 4cfls, water pump, all come in at 14.85 amps total and my wall outlet works fine...

u mean amps?

Revolution101 said:

I just want to see this cab full of reefer! lol

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x2 hell yeah

very nice job.

inspiring

This cabinet is ridiculous. I hope my grow room turns out to be somethin like this lol. Good shit.

I am getting 2 of the same cabinets. But I am going to use both together for flowering. I am thinking about putting a light mover in it with either a 1000w or 2 400w hps. I am thinking about to so I can have 2 DWC 1 on each side. This will allow me to harvest every month. Grow maybe like 16 plants on each side. My question to you is how can I cut the sides out of each cabinet and attach them together? One big area... I am going to have a seperate cabinet to keep like 4 moms in. and then plant clones on one side. A month later plant the clones on the other side.

Not that these steeel cabinets arent freaking solid... cause they are... and they are great to mount stuff and all that.... but i have to tell ya... that its not going to look to stealthy no matter what.... I mean ust cause you cant see whats inside it doesnt mean your not going to hear all the noise... anybody standing in the room with the box will know that theres something going on..... the fans will be loud...

In witch case.... if stealth is not your thing... then why not get one of those secret jardin tents?.... I tell yeah.... i have built a steel cabinet.... i love... but will end up using it only for vegging after i recieve my flowering 4,11 x 4,11 ..... Just a thought man if your thinking about stealth.....


by the way FMJ, That bad ass box fan you got.... is that pretty quiet... would you recommend?... i mean thats alarge unit to have ina grow room.... but if its quiet..it might be your answer to the stealth deal.

Wow jumbo sounds pretty awesome man..Can definitely be done. As far as removing and entire side of a cabinet i cant speak to. I removed a quarter of the one side. If you remove the entire side be careful as the cabinet uses the steel skin itself as the structure. I would at a minimum leave a 1/2 inch lip around the giant hole to maintain enough integrity...I would even leave maybe the bottom 18" of the side and use 2 dwc res's. You definitely dont need 16 plants in each side when you have the height in these. I will be going 3 in mine using scrog technique and will densly cover 3x2 area with fat tall buds. If you do want to do alot of plants (>12)in a SOG you wont need the height as they will have to be small plants. In that case i would add a "shelf" and do 12 on the shelf and 12 on the floor with lights above each. Also >12 plants and that 1000 would be a waste because you wont need the penetration.

As far as stealth goes genfranco is correct. Anything that has a fan that moves enough air to cool >600 Watt light will be IMPOSSIBLE to silence. But you will have that with any cabinet. I actually use a fatmat insulation and about a 1/16 of white rubber paint. You cannot hear the faintest noise from the cabinet itself but when the lights are on you definitly hear the air coming out of the top. This is not an issue for me as it is in my office. When the fan is on you cannot hear it outside the room with the door wide open. So during the day it looks stealth and is silent, then when 8:00pm rolls around my lights/fan kick on and you can hear it if you are in the room. But I am never in the room during the night and have my office door closed/locked. I have the fans on a remote thats on my keychain to kill the fans in an emergency situation. As soon as i hit that from up to 100ft away, the entire unit is completely stealth. I personally would never use a grow tent because of the way it looks as far as stealth is concerened in m personal situation. I am fortunate enough to have identical cabinets i modified and use as server cabinets that also have fans in them that reside in my office. So if anyone ever asked i could open that one for them to show them. If i run my light fan lower than about 300 cfm i have to run my fan to ven the cab as well. When i do this i run my light fan around 150 cfm and my cab exhauset fan at 100cfm. This greatly reduces my air velocity hence loweing the noise to a point where it is only as loud as maybe a window fan on low(which is about as loud as my server cabinet.) This way it is easy to disguise with something placed next to it you expect to make noise.

Another suggestion is to not use mylar or panda for these cabinets as the funny angles by the doors are hard to deal with. I ripped mine down and used kilz primer and white rubber paint that they use for roofs to reflect light. It says its greater than 90% reflective. It is easy to apply, clean, and looks awesome. I will post pics soon.

I tried the cutting using a jigsaw and dremel with no luck. I ended up using a plama gun and it cuts like butter. I have heard some pople having success with grinders as well. You can rent plasma cutters in many areas just look for tool rental stores and welding supply stores and call them.

Keep me posted on you progress Jumbo and let me know if you need anything.

fmj, are you using insulated ducting?

Thanks for the great reply. I think I will go with the rubber paint. I did find a rental store with the plazma cutter.
I was thinking to put 2 600w lights on a mover. So eachlight would cover 1 DWC system. And I could move the light down to the level that the plants are at in their growth. Since they will be at different sizes.
I was thinking SOG with that hight though. Cause with the light mover and the reflectors I will lose maybe 18". ANd with the DWC system like another 18" there leaving me with 3 feet to grow in.

1.HOw many plants do you think per side? I would like to try to get 1lb per side.
2.Also what fan do you think for the lights?
3.And what fan and odor filter?
4.What do you think about 2 lights on a mover?

This is going to be in my home office and like you will run at night. Right now I have 4 servers in there and get the sound from them during the day. And will turn them off after work and then the cabinets on for the night. So some noise is fine. Will also put 2 fans inside to blow around

I found this DWC aero system.. One per side.
Botanicare : Product Overview : Hydrogardens

Now is the Aero one not the others. What do you think?? Also they show 5" net pots and I want to put 3" which would alow me to put like 20 there. each side.

Again thanks for you help it is needed. I am doing this to save my house as my company is in the real estate industry and we are so slow and dont want to lose my home.