Building a stealth Super Cabinet (at least im trying)

FullMetalJacket

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Shit man goodluck w/ your home. Just be careful as being in jail is worse than selling your home. More plants do not equate to more bud..just more legal issues, trouble taking care of, and a shorter veg time...If you are vegging in another cabinet you will have time to veg your girls as you flower cycle will run 60 days. Even SOG in this space you wont be able to do more than 10 at most.

More plants does not necessaily equate to more bud. I have seen people on here and other forums pull a lb or close to it out of cabinets 3x1.5. Search some supercloset or coolcab grows. These grows i have seen use 4-5 plants. I feel i can do it w/ 3 if i veg for 2 months and get the SCROG dialed in. The light mover will serve no pupose if you get 2 lights. I would get 1 light each side and no light mover. I would even think about going 2 400's. They would be easier to cool and the difference in bud wont be much if any. I use a 478 cfm fan to cool my 600w cooltube alone. I dial it to around 300-320 with a speed controller.

If i were you...and wanted to go 2 lb total.

1. Two 400s, no light mover
2. Highly reflective rubber paint
3. 478 CFM S&P 200x inline fan for the light tube that houses both lights
4. Spend the money you save from not getting the light mover on C02 controller. C02 will increase your yield, and more importantly allow you to run temps around 90. Cooling the light tube alone will allow you to keep your temps at 90. This will mean you will only exhause when your humidity gets above 50% for flower. This will increase stealth and reduce smell.
5. TD-200x or TD -150 and a can 33 carbon filter. You will want to get a speed controller because you will want 200cfm max going through the filter.
6. 4-5 Plants each side.
7. High producing strain like skunk or donkey dick or ppp that grows large thick colas.
8. Use SCROG instead of SOG because you have a small spave and more control. (Most people you see doing SOG would be doing scrog if they could put up a screen in their growroom.)
9. Grow medium...i prefer dwc for ease and fast grwoth. Do whatever, stay away from aero in my opinion unless you have at least some experience with the strain.
10. four small 4" inch fans that are 6$ at wallmart blowing up through the plants to push the c02 up
11. Two 6" or 4" fans to blow the top of the plants.
12. 3" or larger netposts
13. Consider a water chiller for the DWC, it will keep the plants healthy and increase growth.
14. At least 6 gallon dwc per plant. So 5 plants 30 gallon dwc. Larger the DWC res, the less maintence for filling, less ph-tds-temp fluctuations.

Now if you will be vegging in another are try to veg them in a dwc bucket you can just transfer...it will be a pain if not impossible to untangle the root system.or...use dividers in the DWC res or uses individual dwc buckets.

edit: i think you mean light hangers not light movers..they are different things. I use light hangers that allow you to adjust height, they dont move horizonally.
 
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FullMetalJacket

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yes? no? maybe so?
No im not. All of my ducting is in the cab. The light ducting is 6" flexible cuting that would love to insulate for heat reasons but i dont know how without loosing my ability to raise and lower my lights...any ideas?

On my exhauset side all the ducting is internal to the cab. I use straight ducting and covered the 90s with that fatmat stuff... Like 3-4 layers. So that i guess is better than any fiberglass insulation. I also painted the ducting with that rubber paint that is about as thick as a quarter after like 7 layers. Overkill really. The ducting doesnt have any noise ...but once again it is all internal to the cab.
 

FullMetalJacket

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I may look into flexible ducting for heat applications. It has like think black rubber coating inside. Think this may keep the heat from the ducting down.
 

Hawk

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Lowes was blowing out there insulated ducting last time I was there--switching brands or something. It was only the R8 though. That's prolly to bulky for your purposes. But gawd was it cheap. Like $5 for 25feet instead of $45. I got 100 feet for a project.
 

LoudBlunts

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fmj, insulated duct will greatly help reduce air flow noises....

have your light on yo-yo's....give a lil extra insulated duct, not much.....shouldnt be that hard to move at all....
 

genfranco

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everyone is all up on these yo-yos... they are 20 bucks for a string..lol... Just use chain man... cheaper and you make 1/2 adjustments... not enough to say the other is that much accurate on distance.. although it can be adjusted to ANY height... 20 dollars for a string... suck it man.. heheheh...
 

genfranco

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Nice... got some more?....hehehe its not that i wouldnt use them or that they arent good... its just for the price... daaaamn,..
 

mark63648

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Looks like you are going to have a nice set up. I am about to build a secret unit myself. The good thing is that I can build it and put it in my garage with the rest of my tools (quit a bit) and nobody will be able to tell it is even there. Not even my wife (who frowns on me growing my own). I haven’t started my build yet. I am planning on starting that today. The one good thing about it being in the garage and having a lot of power tools and equipment that stays plugged in and or running while I am not there is that I don’t have to worry about he sound. I am concerned about he smell though. What do you plan on doing to cover the smell?
 

hayzy

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ok so i have to ask, what kind of potential are we talkin about. i know you said you wernt growing alot but say you were....what kinda maximum yeild do you think you could have. were you planning of have a few big ass plants or just a sog grow
 

JumboBud

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FMJ? You dont think I can get 12 to 16 plants SOG on each side? Main Cola grow only??
SCOG grow would be better than SOG grow? It would yeild more?
If I do SCOG grow with a 8 net pot DWC on each side that would be the best? I found some 8 pot DWC system for just over $100.00. Not bad at all. I found aero DWC for like just over $300.00. That would be a total of close to $700.00 for 2, to much I think.. And you were saying to stay away from Aero. Alot I read was saying that would be the best to yeold the most and grow the best. Also I am doing CO2 for sure for got to tell you that before.
I was just thinking if I did 16 SOG main cola grow only and get 1 oz per plant then Im at my 1lb per side per month.
 

ducks13

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Fmj,
Do you have any light leaks out of the cabinets? I wondered how well those doors block the light and if you have any that comes out your vents?
 

FullMetalJacket

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No light leaks out of the cabinets. It was challending however on the doors where the locking devices go on the top and bottom of the doors. I ended up painting the inside with a rubberlike substance and just put like 10 coats on the bars so they barely fit through the holes and that stops all light. The cracks in the dorrs themselves dont leak light at all. I put 1/4 inch dens foam stripping around tob bottom and sides. I had to really force the doors shut. After they were shut for two days they compressed the foam and it somewhat held its shape the so the doors are easier to shut now. Now it is a perfect fit. Where the two doors meet in the middle i had no light leakage but i put 1/8 inch foam strips on them anyway. This foam was real low density because the metal touched when i cloed by doors so i had to make sure it compressed enough.

The only light leakage left is from the lighttube intake duct when the lights are on. I stopped 90% by using some womans nylons over the duct. There was also minimal light leakage out from the intakes when the backdraft damners were open but the new hepa filter i am using solved most of that. I have some more pics coming soon now that it is complete. Having issues with the camera. I will get some pics in the dark from the same angle with the lights on so you can see what i mean.

If you are building i would recommend getting ducting where the insides are black already. I painted the inside of my ducting but it was hard with the flexible duct because once you compressed it there were areas that were not paintable. Becasue of this i had to paint like 1 ft at a time and let it dry. Also make sure that your fans are strong enough to overcome the extra static pressure of light blocking the hood air intake by whatever means you choose. I dont see anyway around this as the light is so intense in the ducts on all the hoods.
 
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FullMetalJacket

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ok so i have to ask, what kind of potential are we talkin about. i know you said you wernt growing alot but say you were....what kinda maximum yeild do you think you could have. were you planning of have a few big ass plants or just a sog grow

Potential depends on different variables obviously. But i feel i should be pulling 10 oz easily with 3-4 plants each side and vegging for 7-8 weeks scrog. Beacause i can veg while i flower, i could potentially harverst every 60 days. I had a closet slightly larger that i averaged grew from 9-12 oz in depending on the strain... If i ever wanted more; i do have a third identical cabinet i purchased that can be easily integrated, or i simply use my veg/mother chamber as i have enough height and can move the plants temporarily. I already have red bulbs for the t5.

Im growing for personal use so that is plenty for me. I hope to run 2 grows a year...Maybe 3. That is more than i could ever smoke while not having a permanent spliff hanging from my mouth.
 

superskunkxnl

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finished it very nice im impressed i was looking at them superclosets and thinking the same 'cheap generic shite' and could be built alot better/cheaper im constructing a fridge at the moment so real small 2 plant dwc scrog under cfls in the fridge with a freezer up top for bonsai mother/cloner/utility room i wanted to go bigger but am a bit skint atm and had a spare fridge lieing around and airpump/stones from my old lil fish tank havnt spent anything really yet but me and the brother-in-law are designing a 600w self contained unit we plan on making 2 one each when the moneys a bit better will be constructing the cab from sheet metal though as he has a TIG system and plenty experience with it and we can decide the exact dimentions ill be using this for some reference thanks man cant wait to see her full subscribed!
 
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