cal-mag is it really needed

purplehays1

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No, I give my plants correct nutes at every watering/feeding. What is "full nutes"? Is that when people tell you that you need to feed at 1800-2000 ppm 3 times a week when your plants only eat 600-800ppm and then flush all the shit they didnt eat?
so your definition of "watering properly" is giving them NPK every watering in coco?
 

Jbone77

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There is no such thing as full nutes, you either feed correctly or you dont, when you feed cal and n to treat a mag def those salts dont get eaten, resulting in rising ppm's and a needed flush, like you do. Its simple math, when 1+1=5 you fucked up
 

az2000

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Floranova is in no way organic, it is a synthetic
Wow. We've got our work cut out for us, editing all those wiki pages saying humic and fulvic acids are organic. However, this will be easier than removing the suffix "-ish" from the world's dictionaries.:???:
 

Jbone77

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Wow. We've got our work cut out for us, editing all those wiki pages saying humic and fulvic acids are organic. However, this will be easier than removing the suffix "-ish" from the world's dictionaries.:???:
Floranova is in no way organic, meaning organic-ish, kinda organic, mostly organic, or organic, in the same way my piss isnt liquid THC, its piss. A fraction of a percent of organics doesnt make something organic-ish
 

purplehays1

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Jbone u are more into being arguementative than actually helping anyone, pretty sad. ive grown in soil-less mediums for years and cal-mag is the easiest and best way to keep from having a deficiency, you are a tool for neeing to argue the opposite. Giving plants supplements with clean water in early flower in coco is the best practice to prevent a deficiency in late flower.
 

Jbone77

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Jbone u are more into being arguementative than actually helping anyone, pretty sad. ive grown in soil-less mediums for years and cal-mag is the easiest and best way to keep from having a deficiency, you are a tool for neeing to argue the opposite. Giving plants supplements with clean water in early flower in coco is the best practice to prevent a deficiency in late flower.
Well peaches, Go back a few pages and you will see when I went from bein polite to being a dick. If you "experienced" growers feel overfeeding and a weekly flush is best then im happy being a dumb grower. If you feel treeting a cal/n def when you have a Mag def is best im cool with that too, if you experienced growers feel like treating a P toxicity with extra cal/n/mag/iron is the answer im even cool with that. But floranova is in no way organic. Again. Just sayin
 

az2000

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Floranova is in no way organic, meaning organic-ish, kinda organic, mostly organic, or organic, in the same way my piss isnt liquid THC, its piss. A fraction of a percent of organics doesnt make something organic-ish
I know. But, what percentage organic should a non-organic have at which it may properly be referred to as organic'ish?

We're past debating whether you're right or wrong. I'm just trying to learn when I can use a word properly, you being the grow grammarian. ;) Some day I might want to refer to Flora Micro as "calmag'ish" and the whole thread will go down sideways all because of me. I wouldn't want that. Would you?

(Little sarcasm about narcissism. All I said was the OP might like to try something less synthetic than 3-part, by using the word organic'sh. It's about you, nothing else.).
 

Jbone77

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I know. But, what percentage organic should a non-organic have at which it may properly be referred to as organic'ish?

We're past debating whether you're right or wrong. I'm just trying to learn when I can use a word properly, you being the grow grammarian. ;) Some day I might want to refer to Flora Micro as "calmag'ish" and the whole thread will go down sideways all because of me. I wouldn't want that. Would you?

(Little sarcasm about narcissism. All I said was the OP might like to try something less synthetic than 3-part, using the word organic'sh. It's about you, nothing else.).
Is my piss THC?
 

az2000

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Is my piss THC?
We're not using 'ish again?
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'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.'

'The question is,' said Alice, 'whether you can make words mean so many different things.'

'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master — that's all.'
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You're master. I concede. I'm just trying to nail down the vocabulary you require of me. ;)
 

Jbone77

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We're not using 'ish again?
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'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.'

'The question is,' said Alice, 'whether you can make words mean so many different things.'

'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master — that's all.'
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You're master. I concede. I'm just trying to nail down the vocabulary you require of me. ;)
If I need to point out that a fraction of a percentage of a synthetic being organic doesnt change the fact that its a synthetic and not kinda organic whats the point? You wont get it. A fraction of my piss is THC, another fraction in Heineken, so is it alcoholish water infused with liquid THC or is it piss? Its the exact same thing
 

Jbone77

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Im goin nighty night, gotta work in the morn, il turn the floor over to the bad advice of "experienced" growers now. Il chime back in after I get my breakfast and training camp updates. So carry on
 

az2000

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If I need to point out that a fraction of a percentage of a synthetic being organic doesnt change the fact that its a synthetic and not kinda organic whats the point? You wont get it. A fraction of my piss is THC, another fraction in Heineken, so is it alcoholish water infused with liquid THC or is it piss? Its the exact same thing
I know. But, what percentage does qualify for proper use of the suffix '-ish."

I keep asking for this specific, and you won't tell me. It's an enviable world to define how others may use words. But, you're being downright selfish now. ;)
 

a mongo frog

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I know. But, what percentage does qualify for proper use of the suffix '-ish."

I keep asking for this specific, and you won't tell me. It's an enviable world to define how others may use words. But, you're being downright selfish now. ;)
there may not be. it would be like going to dispensary with your meds and saying "well its organish" and the guy says whats that were looking for organic meds. and then one says "yea but its organish" to me doesn't sound right.
 
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