Cali connection

racerboy71 said:

not only that, but that's like saying that any clone only strain that is made into a seed verion is going to be garbage and nothing like the clone version.. while i agree that some clone only seed versions aren't all that similar to the clone versions, i don't think it's true to say that they'll all garbage, and surly, swerve is not the only breeder to be cashing in on the clone only scene, far, far, far from it..

and most of the marijuana growing world doesn't live in cali, where they can walk down to the local clone store and pick up today's flavor of the month, and have to rely on people like swerve, who put out their versions of a clone only..
people who can't get their hands on or have never had the clone only's will never even know how much different that what they're growing is from the clone only, because most of the people who have these clones are hoarders of the worst sort, and would never dare give a cup... so if they're happy growing out cali con's girl scout cookies, and not the forum cut, which they'll never get their hands on unless they live in say cali, or blow the person hoarding it, so be it.. why rain on their parade??
9/10s out of 10 the seed version is going to be some pretty dank bud, even if it's not a copy of the clone only, which most people will never get to smoke anyways..

idk, my $.02

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Your $.02 is worth $37.50 my friend! I couldn't agree with you more.....
puff, puff, pass.... budha tahoe, IDGAF taste good and gets me rippped!

I have yet to understand how an S1 from the original clone can be watered down...My personal experience with cali connection has been great with respect to the other breeders ive tried...Sometimes it seems like some simply prefer growing clone onlys instead of popping seeds...you simply cant expect a clone only from every seed you germ...but quite the opposite...

My take on the Swerve situation is I won't be buying any of his strains for the simple fact of him constantly lying about his strains and constant excuses of why his strains have auto issues and herm issues, I wanted a chem 4s1, he said he released them, his chem4og FEMs were supposed to be the chem4 s1 and the regs were supposed to be chem4 x sfv, then immediately after there were a large report of hermies he then says that they are chem 4 x Tahoe FEMs, it's not a one time thing his reputation has been shit for the last 4-5 years and his arrogance has grown.
I also saw that he did posted Capt Crips govt name right on twitter where all can see,but nobody is making an issue of it because there have been no reports of an arrest linked to him, yet. I don't get it, everybody on these forums who grows is committing a crime by u.s. law, so how can we support this guy any longer, he shows how immature he is when he posts on social media about all his fancy trips and dinners, he reminds me of a boxer on fight night who comes to the ring with an entourage, that's how he rolls.
Another thing is that, right now with the whole Rez thing going down right now how can we allow him to thrive in this community while putting others at risk. As far as I'm concerned he is the West Coast Rez Dog, the similarities are striking, with the arrogance, the way he talks to other members of the forums, the hermie reports,the snitching, and their obvious lack of maturity, these are the reasons why I don't like him

Bxgrower81 said:

My take on the Swerve situation is I won't be buying any of his strains for the simple fact of him constantly lying about his strains and constant excuses of why his strains have auto issues and herm issues, I wanted a chem 4s1, he said he released them, his chem4og FEMs were supposed to be the chem4 s1 and the regs were supposed to be chem4 x sfv, then immediately after there were a large report of hermies he then says that they are chem 4 x Tahoe FEMs, it's not a one time thing his reputation has been shit for the last 4-5 years and his arrogance has grown.
I also saw that he did posted Capt Crips govt name right on twitter where all can see,but nobody is making an issue of it because there have been no reports of an arrest linked to him, yet. I don't get it, everybody on these forums who grows is committing a crime by u.s. law, so how can we support this guy any longer, he shows how immature he is when he posts on social media about all his fancy trips and dinners, he reminds me of a boxer on fight night who comes to the ring with an entourage, that's how he rolls.
Another thing is that, right now with the whole Rez thing going down right now how can we allow him to thrive in this community while putting others at risk. As far as I'm concerned he is the West Coast Rez Dog, the similarities are striking, with the arrogance, the way he talks to other members of the forums, the hermie reports,the snitching, and their obvious lack of maturity, these are the reasons why I don't like him

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^^ Exactly. Finally a non-fanboy that understands. People need to get over the fact that Swerve's gear is better than a dozen other wannabe crappy pollen chuckers. That's not the point. This individual lacks integrity and is compromising the unspoken code of ethics. The line that people don't cross. There is no room in this grey/black market for rats.

And if you believe watered down half-breed tahoe is better than no Tahoe, you are entitled to your opinion. And to the guy who said, "how is an S1 watered down?", I think you're missing the truth, and I say this with respect: The truth is many of his strains are NOT what he claims they are, and they are named deceivingly which is creating a big problem in locating the real things. For example CC Tahoe OG is '84 Tahoe OG clone-only elite outcrossed to half-herm-tendency SFV IBL which the SFV is originally from certain people in Van Nuys (but line-bred poorly by Swerve and Co.) That is, it is not an S1, but has the EXACT same name. So now, in the places where the elite clones are originating from there is a big mixup, and that WILL affect the rest of non-Californias to be able to acquire the real deal from various seedbanks with verifiable lineage. When a Tahoe clone-only is sold, but it turns out it is Swerve gear, and say you bought from some other seedbank, it may be that the lineage were muddled thanks to Swerve's way of jumping on bandwagons and refusing to provide transparency to his strains, and refusing to rename hybrids.

Tahoe OG is not the clone only Tahoe OG. It is not even a selfed Tahoe OG clone. His cookies are fake. His crosses with SFV OG frequently show nanners late flower (inviable usually, but still not useful for further breeding, and problematic in terms of bag appeal), there is a ton of variation in his chem crosses. If you are happy that these plants still put you in a stupor and you want to fork out hard earned cash for this mediocre gear, be my guest. I for one won't be supporting people who snitched out ex-partners. And no, Raskal is not part of CC's crew. People in the know are straying from him. BIG UPS to all the clonaries boycotting CC gear! You know who you are.

F-yobooth.org movement is growing! And if GD reads this, we're waiting for that YLIFE SS Sherb, PPanties, real cookies to blow Calicon outta the water. Please bring it so these non-cali boys can get off swerve's d_ck.

And if one Akita breeder in South Lake Tahoe reads this, please work with a good operations person to supply Cali and then the world with some REAL quality genetics. Stable, potent, s-t dating back decades.

And if PO is reading this, please expand your brand and dump the cali gear, and put out inbred, well-selected, herm-free, elite clones in seed form. There is a high demand for alternatives to Fredo-gear. Dump that snitch in the water, figuratively.

And if DNA is reading this, props on the limited edition Capt. gear! Great Capt had someone to turn to after swerve turned snitch. Tangie is some bombbb! Don't breed that overpriced CC junk.

colocowboy said:

Your $.02 is worth $37.50 my friend! I couldn't agree with you more.....
puff, puff, pass.... budha tahoe, IDGAF taste good and gets me rippped!

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MMMM Tahoe!!

I agree with Sioux with the plants not be true s1's and him having good mother stock but their are numerous other U.S. based breeders both large and small with legit Chems,Og's and Diesels as well, wether you want regs or FEMs, some of these companies include Gage Green, Og Raskal, DNA/Reserva Privada, Rare Dankness, Bodhi, Top Dawg Jj-NYC, Sin City seeds,303 seeds, Dr. Greenthumb, just to name a few off the top of my head

Ok i think that i was not understood...i mean that i really dont care of the whole clone only hoarding my og is better than your og mine is the original your is fake story...If you want dank you can find it in theese seeds and for me this is enough...

And ive grown Bodhi, OGR, DNA and reserva privada and all of them gave me dank on the same level of Cali Connection...

I will never understand all of the drama in this business. I've yet to purchase a single CC bean due to a lot of hermie reports I've read, and due to the way I've seen swerve talk to people on forums. There are too many other choices out there to be supporting an arrogant arse. If he did in fact dime someone out, then that's another good reason not to do business with him.

BUT, as far as genetics go, who cares??? If you buy a pack of seeds and they grow out trouble free, get you high as fuck, and have everything else you're looking for in a plant then why should I be concerned with it's lineage? Does it improve the buzz knowing that it's the "real deal verifiable" OG dogfart sinmint blah blah blah? I base my opinion of a strain on the tangible qualities of the plant/flower, not on some stupid story of where the plant originated. Great weed is great weed no matter if it came from a pack of CC beans, or a clone that's been hoarded in some stoners basement for decades.

*Manwich* said:

Raskal hasn't been with swerve for quite some time now. Said so himself on another forum. Personally I've gotten nothing but herms and watered down phenos from CC, as well as other people I know. I think you mistake hater (as in jealousy) for an actual hater. Just because someone doesn't like something you like, doesn't make them jealous. People are allowed to dislike shitty herm genetics and watered down phenos without accusations of being jealous. I don't like swerve or his gear, does that make me jealous? No. It makes me not fucking like it. Huge difference man. But I see you defend swerve a lot, and fanboys have a tendency to throw the haters gonna hate shit around. Now that's sad.

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Your not the first person with 3 posts to call me a fanboy for liking what I got while talking shit without any experiences of your own! Haters will hate, you prove my point! Attack me for deflecting some of the bullshit with out cause. Swerve may be a prick but of the many breeders I have tried these are at least in the category of true dank. Sounds like your jelly to me sucka! What's sad is you come trolling talking shit with nathan but hate.... hater! lol

colocowboy said:

Your not the first person with 3 posts to call me a fanboy for liking what I got while talking shit without any experiences of your own! Haters will hate, you prove my point! Attack me for deflecting some of the bullshit with out cause. Swerve may be a prick but of the many breeders I have tried these are at least in the category of true dank. Sounds like your jelly to me sucka! What's sad is you come trolling talking shit with nathan but hate.... hater! lol

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sad u even admit it. u need to re access your whole thing here man. u just on here to argue about TCC? thats dumb. that dudes post is spot on. he doesnt like tcc. u r the hater getting on people like that. complaining about experience. yeah thats really 100% feasible for an argument here on the f'n internet. where u could be a TCC employee or something. or even a psych patient who got on a computer and has made up an identity for himself on some forum just to argue, and has never even grown a plant... geez man. rediculous.

TCC is a money machine. u gotta buy many seeds to hope to get a reliable, killer plant.

with other more reliable breeders u wouldnt necessarily have to do that.

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sad u even admit it. u need to re access your whole thing here man. u just on here to argue about TCC? thats dumb. that dudes post is spot on. he doesnt like tcc. u r the hater getting on people like that. complaining about experience. yeah thats really 100% feasible for an argument here on the f'n internet. where u could be a TCC employee or something. or even a psych patient who got on a computer and has made up an identity for himself on some forum.

TCC is a money machine. u gotta buy many seeds to hope to get a reliable, killer plant.

with other more reliable breeders u wouldnt necessarily have to do that.

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Whats dumb is flapjacks that will troll with other peoples experience and that anyone with something positive to say gets shit on. The reason it seems bad is people like you act like a echo chamber for the least common denominator. Your argument is as weak as your apparent experience in the topic at hand. I don't have to buy shit, I bought one pack each and got reliable stellar results. Says you that you don't have to sort phenos for other companies! Shows your lack of experience even farther!

Accusing me of being a shill while you peddle others experience is stupid as your claims!

your just trying to cover up that you are wrong man... how the hell isnt it my experience when i see it myself and know how it was handled and grown??

where am i peddling others experience??? im not. sucks that u dont like my posts man. must tick u off.


and re read my damn post man. how do we know what u say is your experience?? we dont. seriously. cmon. funny u mention troll too. i was minding my own business when u jumped on me. do i need to go and quote u to prove it? or u gonna go edit it all away on me first?


and i said neccessarily search for them... u dumb ass. of course. its a seed. theres no 100%

all i know is that its 100% fact that there are a lot of unstatisfied customers that bought TCC gear.

whatever u type up doesnt change that.

o wait... that wasnt my experience. yeah right, c'mon.

Now you want to call names! It's a 100% fact that your an ass hole concerned only with discrediting TCC. What ever you type doesn't change that.... hahaha
Your right about there not being 100% perfection in any seed line, but you can't be bothered with exercising that when delegating your brand of judgement here either eh?!
Grow up kid!

plz stop and go read the other thread u chose to respond to me in...

Please quit trying to be the ultimate authority on the subject at hand, TCC is not the devil. They don't have shit for genetics. They don't have all herms and your still an ass hole!

okay... yeah your just impossible arent you? and u call me a kid? im prolly older than u the way u are acting now.

and no sir you are the ass hole.

u responding to this is completely stupid. i tried to stop this and this will be my last post before i choose to ignore u. perhaps thats what u need to do with me since u seem to have an issue with posts u dont like.

alright, alright, enough already... don't really want to close the thread..

be good peoples..

I don't think its a bad thing to be a CC hater. My only experience with them is a pack of Affies. The ceeds were tiny, immature and damaged. Only got two plants out of 6 ceeds. Obviously rushed to market just to make a buck. On top of that swerve later posted that his Affies weren't Affie after all. So I'm a hater but wish I wasn't and still had that $100+ in my pocket.