*California could vote on legalizing marijuana in November...

Big P

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Pot Vote: Legalizing Marijuana Could Be on 2010 Ballot



By JESSICA GREENE

Updated 9:40 AM PST, Tue, Dec 15, 2009

AP

A measure to legalize marijuana in California has enough signatures to qualify for the November 2010 ballot, advocates say.

The Tax and Regulate Initiative has far more than the nearly 434,000 signatures needed to make the statewide ballot, said Richard Lee, well-known Oakland medical marijuana entrepreneur and the initiative's main backer. Campaign organizers say they will submit more than 650,000 signatures of registered voters next month.

"People were eager to sign," Lee told the Chronicle. "We heard they were ripping the petitions out of people's hands to do it.

"We'll keep our organizers on the street to keep the momentum going strong, but today we're declaring an overwhelming victory."


The proposal would legalize possession of up to one ounce of marijuana for adults 21 and older. Residents could cultivate marijuana gardens up to 25 square feet. City and county governments would determine whether to permit and tax marijuana sales within their boundaries.

County election officials across the state now must validate and count the signatures before the California Secretary of State puts the measure on the ballot .

Lee's group has collected more than 680,000 signatures, about 57% more than the number needed. That should be plenty -- as a rule of thumb, about 30% of signatures on petitions can be expected to be invalidated, according to Steve Smith, a political consultant who has run many California initiative campaigns.

"I'd be very surprised if they don't qualify," Smith told the Los Angeles Times.

A Field Poll conducted in April found that 56 percent of California residents supported legalizing and taxing marijuana to help bridge the state budget deficit. Still, pro-legalization advocates are divided over whether the ballot measure is being pushed too soon.

Marijuana is illegal under federal law. But some legal scholars have argued the U.S. government could do little to make California enforce the federal ban if the drug became legal under state law.

Oakland is ground zero for marijuana legalization in the U.S. It became the first city in the country to pass a cannabis tax during a special election in July. The city is expected generate nearly $300,000 a year from taxes on medical cannabis clubs. Other California cities considering taxing medical marijuana are San Jose, Berkeley, Santa Cruz, Sacramento and Los Angeles.

Lee owns a hanful of Oakland businesses, including Coffeeshop Blue Sky and the famed Oaksterdam University, where students can enroll in classes for "entering the budding cannabis job field." Lee's company has spent $1.1 million on the effort already, and expects a full campaign to cost between $7 million and $20 million.

"Medical marijuana in California has been accepted as legalization in some ways by a lot of the population," Lee told the Times. "To me this is codifying what is happening."
Copyright Associated Press / NBC Bay Area

First Published: Dec 15, 2009 6:40 AM PST
 

Big P

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A+ for Obama on that one


Thank God


Bigs ups to Obama for keeping his word regarding this subject,

gotta give credit where credit is due.
 

Big P

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what did obama do? :-?
A federal about-face on medical marijuana

New Justice Department guidelines order federal drug agents to cease arresting or charging patients, caregivers or suppliers who are conforming with state law.


October 20, 2009|Josh Meyer
WASHINGTON — The Obama administration on Monday told federal authorities not to arrest or prosecute medical marijuana users and suppliers who aren't violating local laws, paving the way for some states to allow dispensaries to provide the drug as relief for some maladies.
The Justice Department's guidelines ended months of uncertainty over how far the Obama White House planned to go in reversing the Bush administration's position, which was that federal drug laws should be enforced even in states like California, with medical marijuana laws on the books.


I was hoping this policy would allow states to legalize marijuana whith out threat of federal interfearance but maybe im wrong about that:-(


maybe they only mean for medical use?:wall:
 

fdd2blk

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the state will push forward regardless of what the feds say. the state IS the people, on this issue anyways. :wink:
 

Big P

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the state will push forward regardless of what the feds say. the state IS the people, on this issue anyways. :wink:


nice let me know if you guys need help, ill ship over a couple container loads of american flags that say "we are free to choose" on them


that would be a sight to see,


100,000 protesters marching to the DEA offices with thier flags of freedom, you cant argue with that kind of ground swell

plaster it across the national news

lol we should make some really pointed protest posters like ones that say

"perscription drugs are addictive"

"we have the right to choose"

"Perscription drugs are dangerous"

"marijuana has never killed any one"

"Marijuana, the safer alternative to perscrition pain pills"

"marijuana, the other white lie"

"marijuana is the right of responsible adults"

"we are not children, i am my own gaurdian"

"mind your own business"

"you do not know better"


"stop the lies about this amazing plant"


"the drug compaines dont want you to know this"

"Marijuana is safe, there is no recorded deaths ever from marijuana"


"perscription pain meds addict and kill (fill in blank) people every year"

"legalise marijuana for responsible adults, or you must make pizza illigal as it is more harmful than ganja:bigjoint:"
 

jfgordon1

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What I don't understand is how the fed can acknowledge it's a medicine in california, yet it's still a scheduled 1 drug in the books stating it's not medicinal :sad:.... ohhh the hypocrisy
 

Big P

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What I don't understand is how the fed can acknowledge it's a medicine in california, yet it's still a scheduled 1 drug in the books stating it's not medicinal :sad:.... ohhh the hypocrisy

ya, think about it, when they started this nation they said every man is created equal lol

all the while they had slaves bringing them thier afternoon tea:dunce:


hopfully the hard heads will slowly soften with time


a lot of people live in the past and it always takes time for them to die:bigjoint::bigjoint:
 

del66666

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hope you americans do make it legal cause i guess what happens there will follow here in little america ( britain }
 

Big P

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hope you americans do make it legal cause i guess what happens there will follow here in little america ( britain }

ya being an american citizen we should think thats cool that you guys would follow us

but unfortunatly we led the way with criminalizing it and you ended up getting shited on too


hope we can right our mistake by example this time.

then people can focus on the drugs that truly tear poeple lives apart like meth

instead of focusing on a drug that keeps families together and that provides alchaholics an altrernative to destruction

the only negative aspect of cannibus is the heavy hand of the nanny state.
 

Spoc

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Legalization not only creates mad tax revenue; Cali would be a melting pot of "Defectors" from the rest of the nation reversing the mass exodus. I know I'd be one of the many to relocate and in a fu&kin hurry!!
 

zebra

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i kno lil to none about how laws are create so let me get this straight. so now all we need is for californians to vote and if passed can it still be veto by arnold or whoever? ima finally make use of my vote 2010!!!
 

Spoc

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Yes it can be vetoed by the Terminator but he's the least of your worries. Arnold was an avid fan of MJ in his weight lifting years and I guarantee that dude still lights up. It's got to be passed through the house first. I predict it will lose by 5% but will make for a tight race the next election.
 

zebra

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so the ballot vote is only to get it pass for the house to vote? i thought it was the other way around, the house vote first and then get pass on for the people to vote. damn got my hopes up, im sure if it was up to the people it'll get pass but im skeptical about the house.
 

Spoc

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I'm a bit stoned but I'm quite sure the house and governor have absolute power. The majority vote of the people is not enough unfortunately. It really is a screw ball way to govern but I'm proud to be an American!
 
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