California to use Texas abortion decision to ban assault weapons

Roger A. Shrubber

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Or only those loyal to the party can be cops.
what party would that be? i'd rather have them be loyal to the oaths they took when they became officers. this is the one for Tn., but most states have very similar oaths that officers take when sworn in...
I do solemnly swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States and of the State of Tennessee, and the ordinances of the City of ____________________, and will well and faithfully perform the duties imposed upon me as a police officer of the City of______________ to the best of my ability; and that I will serve the United States, the State of Tennessee, and the City of ________________honestly and faithfully, and will obey the orders of the officers and officials placed over me according to law.

i could care less what political party they belong to, or who they vote for, as long as they try to do their jobs, and not break the laws they're supposed to be upholding
 

Antidote Man

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Are you kidding me? Cops should be the only people that have guns... yeah right....

I'de rather live in a world of criminals maintaining power without the law on their side.

OH... and hammers, knives, torches, gasoline, poorly bred dogs, your mammas poosay.... they can all be used in contructive ways rather than in a manner to kill. A gun only has one purpose...

And I sleep better at night knowing that some of you are going to end up in situations where you're using them. Not me.
 
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GrassBurner

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Assault weapons :lol: :lol: :lol: Leave it to California to grandstand with no clue about the actual substance of their stance. "Do as I say not as I do Newsom" is just trying to stay relevant. The recall election was a clear sign that Californians are sick of the bs. I spent a year in Cali, what a disappointment. No wonder people are leaving in droves.
 

PopAndSonGrows

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Assault weapons :lol: :lol: :lol: Leave it to California to grandstand with no clue about the actual substance of their stance. "Do as I say not as I do Newsom" is just trying to stay relevant. The recall election was a clear sign that Californians are sick of the bs. I spent a year in Cali, what a disappointment. No wonder people are leaving in droves.
Good old Governor "Do As I Say-som, Not As I Do-som"
 

CatHedral

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Good old Governor "Do As I Say-som, Not As I Do-som"
It always surprises me when Traitriots think that is even in the same weight class as R governors pursuing Big Lie politics.
Antivax. Anti-woman. Anti-nonwhite. Anti-poor folk, because after all being poor is their fault. They use their lies to stripmine the rest of us.

You are either wealthy enough to be in on the pillage, or you’re rural white stupid male. Possibly both.
 

PopAndSonGrows

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It always surprises me when Traitriots think that is even in the same weight class as R governors pursuing Big Lie politics.
Antivax. Anti-woman. Anti-nonwhite. Anti-poor folk, because after all being poor is their fault. They use their lies to stripmine the rest of us.

You are either wealthy enough to be in on the pillage, or you’re rural white stupid male. Possibly both.
Ok, good luck keeping the heat on out there.
 

canndo

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Nusum and the left are making the same old mistake. They think the right will be congruent. They believe that the court is really pivoting on a singular decision on sb 8 (or any other decision) they still believe that an ideological court will remain true to its prior decisions.
But the right is never beholding to its own past. Sure, the common folk are ok to sue over abortion but guns? Well that's different they can't allow that and they will find some obscure differences that will permit an entirely opposite finding .

This is no different than how the right "interprets" the Bible, love thy neighbor except when it is ok to enslave them.

Both, you see, are biblical edicts, hang those contradictions.
 

hanimmal

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Assault weapons :lol: :lol: :lol: Leave it to California to grandstand with no clue about the actual substance of their stance. "Do as I say not as I do Newsom" is just trying to stay relevant. The recall election was a clear sign that Californians are sick of the bs. I spent a year in Cali, what a disappointment. No wonder people are leaving in droves.
I notice you didn't mention ghost guns.

Does that mean you are pro kids being able to buy gun parts from multiple sources online and then assemble a gun?
 

hanimmal

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If your 18, build what you want bongsmilie Does a "ghost gun" shoot bullets faster or something im unaware of? :lol:
More the issue of getting around background checks or virtually any accountability or way to know how many bodies a gun has.

And it is funny to think that it matters if someone is 18 ordering gun parts online. If you can't see a problem with some idiot getting radicalized and having the ability to assemble a gun with no traceability and then get some ammo sent to them from Russia you really should read up on the attack that is taking place on our society.

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WASHINGTON — Facing Republican opposition to the passage of gun control legislation, President Biden on Thursday announced a set of initial steps he could take on his own to address the epidemic of gun violence.

The most significant proposal was a crackdown on the proliferation of so-called ghost guns, or firearms that are assembled from kits and do not carry serial numbers.

“I want to see these kits treated as firearms under the Gun Control Act,” Mr. Biden said.

Here’s what you need to know about the weapons the Biden administration is targeting and why.

What is a ghost gun?

Traditional firearms are made by licensed companies and then bought from licensed gun dealers. All guns manufactured in the United States, as well as those imported from abroad, are legally required to have serial numbers that are typically displayed on the back of the frame.

In contrast, a ghost gun is manufactured in parts, and can be assembled at the home of an unlicensed buyer. There is no need to pass a background check to obtain the components of a ghost gun. They are sold online as D.I.Y. kits, and typically shipped as “80 percent receivers.” That means the gun is 80 percent complete, and buyers have to assemble the final 20 percent themselves.

The key selling point for many buyers is that ghost guns do not have serial numbers, the critical piece of information that law enforcement agencies use to trace the gun from the manufacturer to the gun dealer to the original buyer. Ghost guns are untraceable and because of how they are sold — as parts that need to be assembled — under current rules, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives does not treat them as it would traditional firearms.

How hard are they to assemble?

It’s easy and relatively inexpensive.

According to a report by Everytown for Gun Safety, a gun violence prevention organization, an AR-15 build kit costs as low as $345.

The sales pitches usually promise little work for the buyer. One online purveyor assured that “building time doesn’t take too long,” adding, “Within an hour or two, you should be breaking it in at the range.”

The kits usually come with directions on how to finish the gun or link to YouTube tutorials. Typically, the only tool needed is a drill and the kits are often sold with the drill bits necessary to complete the frame.

Many ghost guns are also sold with a “jig,” which fits around the frame or receiver and helps turn the project into something like “gun assembly for dummies.” One site said the jig could be used to complete a gun “in under 15 minutes with excellent results.”

According to Everytown for Gun Safety, the top five instructional videos on YouTube for building a ghost gun have drawn more than three million views.

How long have ghost guns been around?

Ghost guns aren’t new, but they are a growing problem. Even though kits to assemble guns have been sold since the 1990s, the market did not really take off until around 2009. At the time, firearm sellers in California began offering unfinished receivers for the AR-15 and AK-47 series of guns, in an attempt to circumvent the state’s assault weapons laws, according to T. Christian Heyne, the vice president for policy at the Brady United Against Gun Violence organization.

The problem of ghost guns did not become well known until 2013, when one was linked to a shooting at Santa Monica College in California, which killed six people, including the gunman.

Sales of ghost guns started to rise substantially around 2016, as people began buying kits to recreate a firearm based on the Glock 9-millimeter semiautomatic pistol.

What to Know About ‘Ghost Guns’

Deadly and untraceable. Earlier this year, President Biden announced a set of initial steps to address gun violence, including a significant crackdown on “ghost guns.” Here’s what to know about the weapons:

What is a ghost gun? They are untraceable firearms assembled from parts bought online. They do not have serial numbers and there is no need to pass a background check to obtain the components of a ghost gun.

How hard are they to assemble? The sales pitches often promise little work for the buyer. The kits usually come with directions on how to finish the gun or link to YouTube tutorials. Typically, the only tool needed is a drill.

Why are they an issue now? Kits to assemble guns have been sold since the 1990s, but ghost guns have become increasingly easy to access for those legally barred from buying or owning guns.

How prevalent are they? There is no way to know how many ghost guns are in circulation. But their prevalence appears to be growing, especially in states with strict firearm laws, like California and New York.

How prevalent are they now?

There is no way to know how many ghost guns are in circulation because they do not have serial numbers and no background check is required to purchase them.

But data shows that their prevalence appears to be growing every year, especially in states like California that have strict gun laws.

According to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, or A.T.F., law enforcement recovered about 10,000 ghost guns in 2019. In cities, those numbers are rising at what the authorities say is an alarming rate every year. Proponents of stricter gun laws have been pushing for action on ghost guns to address the growing problem before it becomes a full-blown catastrophe.

In Philadelphia, for instance, 250 ghost guns were recovered in 2020, up from 99 in 2019. In Baltimore, 126 ghost guns were recovered last year, up from 29 in 2019.

“Forty-one percent, so almost half our cases we’re coming across, are these ‘ghost guns,’” Carlos A. Canino, the special agent in charge of the A.T.F. Los Angeles field division, told ABC News last year.

Have they been linked to mass shootings?

Some mass shootings have been linked to ghost guns, like the 2019 shooting at a high school in California, where a 16-year-old killed two students. A ghost gun was also linked to a 2017 rampage in which a gunman killed his wife and four others in Northern California.

But analysts said that ghost guns were not disproportionately linked to mass shootings. The bigger issue is that they are disproportionately affecting day-to-day gun violence in communities of color across the country, gun safety groups said.
 

CatHedral

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I notice you didn't mention ghost guns.

Does that mean you are pro kids being able to buy gun parts from multiple sources online and then assemble a gun?
As a gun owner, I feel distinctly threatened by

-ghost guns
-no-record transfers at gun shows (I bought a rifle in Pennsy in ‘89, zero paperwork apart from handing over currency, and while I was stoked by the gun, which I had rebuilt into a benchrest special)
-the wild disparity in gun laws from state to state

I would like these to be soberly addressed so that I might keep my sporting arms, including my Sinister Black Rifle, entirely within the law.

oh and please decide that my state’s ammo purchase registry is extralegal
 

hanimmal

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As a gun owner, I feel distinctly threatened by

-ghost guns
-no-record transfers at gun shows (I bought a rifle in Pennsy in ‘89, zero paperwork apart from handing over currency, and while I was stoked by the gun, which I had rebuilt into a benchrest special)
-the wild disparity in gun laws from state to state

I would like these to be soberly addressed so that I might keep my sporting arms, including my Sinister Black Rifle, entirely within the law.

oh and please decide that my state’s ammo purchase registry is extralegal
Im not a fan of people being able to buy guns/ammo from Russian puppet nations/Russia while they are radicalizing our vulnerable mentally disturbed people online.
 

CatHedral

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Im not a fan of people being able to buy guns/ammo from Russian puppet nations/Russia while they are radicalizing our vulnerable mentally disturbed people online.
I agree with that. It is tough to make a moral statement when it is not backed by appropriate sanctions. I’m not itching to reward the de facto enemy in this weird new warfare.

Similarly, I have purged my loading bench of as many Chinese-manufacture items as I can.

I know some folks maybe a decade older than me who will NOT buy if “made in Vietnam”. I respect that, even while some of my bedding is from there. “at least it ain’t China”
 
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