Can one of you guys explain your paranoid theory to me???

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ilkhan

Well-Known Member
You would have to ask the Russian that came up with that map.
It is BS, IMO.
He is just spouting off.

About the currency there are two schools forming even now on money.
It seems the banks may begin cutting our credit.
Making us live within our means.
Speculation is we are headed towards deflation.
Which almost as bad IMO as hyperinflation.

I don't know about that either way.

“For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure–one world, if you will.
If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”
-Quotes from David Rockerfeller’s Memoirs (Random House, New York, 2002) Chapter 27, pages 404 and 405

I don't know if there is a conspiracy.
I'm fairy certain their are several competing conspiracies.
What they are who knows, honestly who really care.
In the end we either protect this country
its Constitution and Declaration of Independance or we don't.

We used to be Americans.
We used to believe in freedom.
Generations fought and died defending our rights.
We stormed beaches fighting for the freedom
this generation so calously shrugs off as frivilous.

Don't worry you'll get your socialism.
You'll get free healthcare.
You'll get Cap and Trade.
We'll keep our Patriot act.
and invade the world to make it safe for corpratism.
Just keep playing your X-Box.
There is nothing you can do to change it anyway.
 
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Cloud City

New Member
hom36rown said:
There is no vast conspiracy. The dollar is going to collapse due to decades of bad monetary policy, reckless borrowing and spending, and just generally living beyond our means.

The only thing that really keeps us afloat is foreign credit. But as creditors realize that we cannot legitimately pay back all of our debts, and as we destroy the value of their investments through inflation, it becomes increasingly more clear that they are better off investing elsewhere.

If our foreign creditors were to stop investing here, we would screwed beyond all belief. We wouldn't even be able to run the day to day operations necessary for our country. Of course at that point, the dollar would neccessarily plummet in value in the world market...and as trillions of foreign owned dollars flowed into the country we would be hit with an even stronger wave of hyperinflation.

The dollar would be worth less than the paper its printed on, A huge portion of our economy would be crippled, and there would be mass unemployment. Our standard of living, which has basically been paid for these past few decades by mortgaging our childrens future to the Chinese, Japanese, Saudis etc...would also plummet.
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Would be, could be, blah fucking bla. The economy is doing fine and is getting better daily. Home sales are up, employment is on the rise, the stock market is recovering, tourism numbers are rising across the US, and the dollar remains strong.
 
hom36rown

hom36rown

Well-Known Member
I would explain to you the supposed recovery, but I know it will fall on deaf...err...stupid ears.
 
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Keenly

Guest
Cloud City said:
Is that an attempt at an insult? lol. :dunce: The polar icecaps aren't melting because the climate is getting cooler.:wall:
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like i said before, i follow the rules

pointing out false statements is not an insult


posting the dunce smililey while thinking your smart, while everyone around you is disagreeing with you?

who knows
 
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Cloud City

New Member
Try telling all those folks who live and have recently traveled to the icepack that global warming is a false statement created by Al Gore. Ice is melting in the summers now creating open water where there never used to be. There are villages in Alaska that are underwater right now.
 
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Keenly

Guest
Cloud City said:
Try telling all those folks who live and have recently traveled to the icepack that global warming is a false statement created by Al Gore. Ice is melting in the summers now creating open water where there never used to be. There are villages in Alaska that are underwater right now.
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rofl


waffle



31,000 scientists say the worlds climate follows the sun, which has an 11 year cycle


who to believe...... a 1 month RIU member? or a shit load of scientists



watch out for that manbearpig
 
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Cloud City

New Member
Who to believe, a scientist who sits in a cubicle on a computer making graphs or an Eskimo or Alaskan native who has witnessed the change in the icepack firsthand over the past 70 years? hmmm...
 
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Keenly

Guest
check and mate


you just made contradicting statements


now who is the :dunce:


let me point them out


Cloud City said:
Is that an attempt at an insult? lol. :dunce: The polar icecaps aren't melting because the climate is getting cooler.:wall:
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Cloud City said:
Try telling all those folks who live and have recently traveled to the icepack that global warming is a false statement created by Al Gore. Ice is melting in the summers now creating open water where there never used to be. There are villages in Alaska that are underwater right now.
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and just for fun


let me point out that the summer of 2009 showed record colds across the globe


so......... which statement is a lie troll?
 
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Keenly

Guest
cloud city said:
who to believe, a scientist who sits in a cubicle on a computer making graphs or an eskimo or alaskan native who has witnessed the change in the icepack firsthand over the past 70 years? Hmmm...
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lolllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

eskimos are smarter ahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaa
 
hom36rown

hom36rown

Well-Known Member
The dollar is not strong, it hit a 52 week low not too long ago....and the barrage of inflation caused by the stimulus plans, bailouts, and low interest rates, is going to send it much lower. The stock markets is certainly no indicator of economic conditions...and most economists agree it is overpriced at the moment as it is...but stock prices are bound to rise with inflation just like everything else. Home sales are bound to be up after prices dropping 50%...can't wait to see the next wave of foreclosures when the next wave of ARM change their rates. Oh and tourism is up, Hallelujah, the economy is saved.

Again, the fundamental problems with our economy still exist. The collapse of the bubble has shown us that Americans cannot handle more debt. We have a NEGATIVE savings rate, 60+ trillion in unfunded liabilities and debt, and GROWING trade and budget deficits that add to these figures constantly. So doob, I mean cloud city, what are we going to do when our ridiculous entitlement programs make up 100% of our budget, and we are still unable to pay for them. Do you believe our foreign investors will fund our extravagent lifestyles forever without any chance of us paying them back...I don't think so. We have done nothing to fix the fundamentals of our economy, the only thing that can do that, is corrective recession...but we refuse to let that happen, and instead just print our way out of it. Gullible Americans believe we have discovered an Economic system that is immune to shock, when really we have just discovered away to postpone consequences to a later date.
 
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Keenly

Guest
hom36rown said:
The dollar is not strong, it hit a 52 week low not too long ago....and the barrage of inflation caused by the stimulus plans, bailouts, and low interest rates, is going to send it much lower. The stock markets is certainly no indicator of economic conditions...and most economists agree it is overpriced at the moment as it is...but stock prices are bound to rise with inflation just like everything else. Home sales are bound to be up after prices dropping 50%...can't wait to see the next wave of foreclosures when the next wave of ARM change their rates. Oh and tourism is up, Hallelujah, the economy is saved.

Again, the fundamental problems with our economy still exist. The collapse of the bubble has shown us that Americans cannot handle more debt. We have a NEGATIVE savings rate, 60+ trillion in unfunded liabilities and debt, and GROWING trade and budget deficits that add to these figures constantly. So doob, I mean cloud city, what are we going to do when our ridiculous entitlement programs make up 100% of our budget, and we are still unable to pay. Do you believe our foreigg investors will fund our extravagent lifestyles forever without any chance of us paying them back...I don't think so. We have done nothing to fix the fundamentals of our economy, the only thing that can do that, is corrective recession...but we refuse to let that happen, and instead just print our way out of it. Gullible Americans believe we have discovered an Economic system that is immune to shock, when really we have just discovered away to postpone consequences to a later date.
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not to forget were producing a currency that is not backed by anything and we are producing practically nothing
 
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Cloud City

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The icecaps are melting every summer when they never used to. I saw an old Eskimo guy on the History Channel saying how he has seen the differences in the icepack from being frozen year round when he was a child to open water in the summer 70 years later. There have been coastal villages in Alaska that have had to move because of melting icepack and permafrost. And just because the temperature in Dallas was above average does not mean the CLIMATE is not getting warmer.
 
hom36rown

hom36rown

Well-Known Member
We don't need to produce anything, we can just print the dollar and the rest of the world will do all the heavy lifting...not.
 
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Keenly

Guest
Cloud City said:
The icecaps are melting every summer when they never used to. I saw an old Eskimo guy on the History Channel saying how he has seen the differences in the icepack from being frozen year round when he was a child to open water in the summer 70 years later. There have been coastal villages in Alaska that have had to move because of melting icepack and permafrost. And just because the temperature in Dallas was above average does not mean the CLIMATE is not getting warmer.
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ahh yes the history channel


not known for broadcasting lies and twisting events to make one side look better at all :roll:
 
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