yktind
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Will be 5 gallon batches. My carboy will be here on Friday. So excited. Been brewing for a few years with my uncle this will be my first solo run.
Cannabis and Hops... Let's Make some Beer
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yktind
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I think dry hop is the way to go for cannabis but the different trials will need a lot more cannabis:
Trial 1:
- Dry hop whole cured buds aiming for .25 grams / bottle
Trial 2:
- Dry Hop with Dry Ice Kief aiming for ..... Maybe .1 / bottle (Basically I will use the same amount of herb as above, dry ice it and then divide by 54 beers, so it will vary I am sure)
Trial 3:
- Larf, Trim and sugar leaves added right before fermentation begins.
Trial 4:
- Unknown
greenlikemoney
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Sounds like a plan !!!!
farmasensist
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I saw something on here not too long ago about this. Some people were saying they tried it and it didnt get high and tasted like crap, other people were saying it gets you high and tasted delicious.
Do any of you know of a good brew supply website? I've been wanting try it for a while.
Do any of you know of a good brew supply website? I've been wanting try it for a while.
yktind
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What area are you in? I would just do a google search on brew supply.
yktind
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Okay so I'll be brewing either tonight or tomorrow. This will be a normal batch to help get my sea legs back.
Basic recipe is:
3 lbs Pale Malt Extract (Syrup)
3 lbs Amber Malt Extract (Powder)
1 oz Nugget Hop Pellets (Bittering)
2 oz Cascade Hop Pellets (Finish)
2 Packages Pale Ale Yeast (Dry)
That is it. Usually we add a couple pounds of corn sugar to help jack up the ABV%. This time we should land right around 4 - 5% I think.
I have a lot more research to do on making the Canna-Ale. If you have ever made ice water hash you will know what I am talking about when I say that I want to match that special smell and flavor you get when doing a gentle mix either by hand or machine. Once the Trichomes start being separated from the plant material. It is a beautiful amazing smell. I care less about the THC and getting high factor (We can nail that down later just by adding extracts). I want to retain the smell and flavor of the live plant. (I do not recommend using skunk or 'cat-piss' strains, lol). As soon as you pop the cap on the beer it should smell like someone is carrying an ounce in their pocket.
Basic recipe is:
3 lbs Pale Malt Extract (Syrup)
3 lbs Amber Malt Extract (Powder)
1 oz Nugget Hop Pellets (Bittering)
2 oz Cascade Hop Pellets (Finish)
2 Packages Pale Ale Yeast (Dry)
That is it. Usually we add a couple pounds of corn sugar to help jack up the ABV%. This time we should land right around 4 - 5% I think.
I have a lot more research to do on making the Canna-Ale. If you have ever made ice water hash you will know what I am talking about when I say that I want to match that special smell and flavor you get when doing a gentle mix either by hand or machine. Once the Trichomes start being separated from the plant material. It is a beautiful amazing smell. I care less about the THC and getting high factor (We can nail that down later just by adding extracts). I want to retain the smell and flavor of the live plant. (I do not recommend using skunk or 'cat-piss' strains, lol). As soon as you pop the cap on the beer it should smell like someone is carrying an ounce in their pocket.
farmasensist
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There is a place close to me ill probably check it out next week. It looks like the successful brews water cured to remove the clorophil and dry hopped with the buds.
http://rollitup.org/t/cannabis-beer.8644/#post-3595229
http://rollitup.org/t/brewing-beer-with-cannabis.281675/#post-3526846
http://rollitup.org/t/cannabis-beer.8644/#post-3595229
http://rollitup.org/t/brewing-beer-with-cannabis.281675/#post-3526846
yktind
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Thank you for chiming in. Doesn't really tell you what they did for a success. One guy said he pre steeped the trim and larf in 150 degree water for 30 min. then dry hopped it. My plan is use cured buds so there shouldn't be a whole lot of chlorophyll left.
Only issues are decarb and how to evenly mix the THC into the beer. They also recommend IPA type as someone else already mentioned here. That way the alcohol content is higher.
yktind
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Well we brewed up our beer and followed the recipe... mostly. I do not have an accurate scale (body weight one not for food) and it turns out liquid malt is extremely difficult to measure without a scale.
So note to self when purchasing enough ingredients for 3 batches have dude at store separate into 3 pound bags. It was a nightmare trying to separate everything after the fact... Any way.
The recipe above can still be followed just add ~ish at the end of the syrup malt.
Here are some picks of the brew:
(In order) 6 gallon glass Carboy, 7 gallon filling bucket, Capper + Dry Malt Extract, Sterilize Everything, Boil Water, Add Malt, Boil, Add Bittering Hops, Boil 45 min, Add Finish Hops, In the meantime waiting for boiled water to cool for the yeast.
So note to self when purchasing enough ingredients for 3 batches have dude at store separate into 3 pound bags. It was a nightmare trying to separate everything after the fact... Any way.
The recipe above can still be followed just add ~ish at the end of the syrup malt.
Here are some picks of the brew:
(In order) 6 gallon glass Carboy, 7 gallon filling bucket, Capper + Dry Malt Extract, Sterilize Everything, Boil Water, Add Malt, Boil, Add Bittering Hops, Boil 45 min, Add Finish Hops, In the meantime waiting for boiled water to cool for the yeast.
yktind
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I forgot to add that you want to cool the wort down before adding the additional water. Also, I did not filter out the hops on this batch.
Next batch will get filtered and we will try only 1 package of yeast to see what the flavor differences are.
The Rest:
(In Order) Agitating the Wort, Mixing Back and Forth, Additional Water to make 5 gallons, Filling up the Carboy, Fermentation Begins.
I checked on the brew this morning and it is looking a lot more clear. Will post pics on Wednesday for the updated look. This will ferment for 2 weeks (even after the bubbles stop it isn't finished). Then go into bottles and sit for another 2 weeks. We will also be doing the second batch after we bottle the first.
Next batch will get filtered and we will try only 1 package of yeast to see what the flavor differences are.
The Rest:
(In Order) Agitating the Wort, Mixing Back and Forth, Additional Water to make 5 gallons, Filling up the Carboy, Fermentation Begins.
I checked on the brew this morning and it is looking a lot more clear. Will post pics on Wednesday for the updated look. This will ferment for 2 weeks (even after the bubbles stop it isn't finished). Then go into bottles and sit for another 2 weeks. We will also be doing the second batch after we bottle the first.
thegreensurfer
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I agree with the dry hopping idea. If you added to the hot wort it would probably extract too many plant-y flavors. If added after primary fermentation you would probably have a less plant taste, plus the alcohol that is needed to extract cannabinboids doesn't show up in high amounts until a week or so in.....
Additionally....
1. Are we even sure thc wont inhibit fermentation?
2. Is it possible that any residual spores that might be on the plant material could infect the brew?
Carboxylation would be necessary since there is no heat involved in the brewing & drinking process.
What about starting some sort of hash/alcohol culture on the side and then adding that to a secondary? This side process could also be heated to assist in thc absorbing into the alcohol, thus carboxylating and sterilizing it before being added to the secondary.
Additionally....
1. Are we even sure thc wont inhibit fermentation?
2. Is it possible that any residual spores that might be on the plant material could infect the brew?
Carboxylation would be necessary since there is no heat involved in the brewing & drinking process.
What about starting some sort of hash/alcohol culture on the side and then adding that to a secondary? This side process could also be heated to assist in thc absorbing into the alcohol, thus carboxylating and sterilizing it before being added to the secondary.
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yktind
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That was a great thought.
I watched "Beer Wars" last night and it interviews "DogFishHead". He does a brew where he runs the finshed beer through fresh hops (this is after fermentation) and the alcohol extracts pure flavor and smells from the hops. I am sure his exact process is patened or protected but I think we can invent a way to do it similar.
Only issue left is decarboxialation. One way I can think of off the top of my head is to throw the whole buds into the oven and do a low temp long bake. This would essentially pre-decarb the buds. These "decarbed" buds would then go into a glass cylinder. From the fermentation bucket the liquid is pumped through the buds then into the bottles.This would be after priming with sugar.
As to inhibiting fermentation I have no idea. I wouldn't think so but it could have some affect on the yeast.
thegreensurfer
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.....maybe the yeast cells lose motivation to poop out the goods when under the influence?
I figured there may be some sort of anti fungal property of the various cannibinoids that could negatively affect yeast cells. That should definitely be looked into considering yeast activity is needed for carbonation/conditioning. Unless its being kegged with CO2, which interestingly is a solvent under high pressure and low temps. Probably not the same conditions as CO2 oil is made though
That is an interesting infusing idea, like blasting bho. There would probably be a need for thorough mixing to be sure every bottle is getting the same amount of thc. Otherwise dosing would be unpredictable.
Sam Calagione is one bad mofo.....Check out Brewmasters on Netflix. He's one of the most creative prolific brewers around...
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greenlikemoney
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Bout time to rack that bitch !!!!!!!
greenlikemoney
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BTW ykt, if you have a local small brewery around, get to know the brewer ( or at least the dude who cleans out the fermenters ) and see if you can come in and pull some yeast off the bottom of the fermenter after they transfer off. Talk about a quick fermentation in a 5 gallon carboy !!!!! That freshly sated yeast can get hungry again in a matter of hours !!!!
sensimilla86
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I was just talking with u yktind on another thread. And asked u about the brewing with cannabis below ur avatar and I think this is really great idk anything about brewing but would love to get a taste should this ever become something available to buy I would deff b a buyer but anyways I don't know anything bout brewing though I did just learn a bit in reading this thread sounds like with a few runs some tweaking here and there you may b able to arrive at a tasty result good luck man I'll deff n checking this thread out
yktind
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Cool thanks for subbing. Looking forward to getting this going. Who knows maybe it'll hit stores when legalization happens.
sensimilla86
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I would think that would b a real money maker too even for people who don't smoke and if u can get both ends of the buzz that would b interesting possibly even ease those against pot to appreciate it in a form there used to catching a buzz but who knows some r just so close minded nothing will ever bridge that gap