Greatest I am
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Care to compare the Jesus you know to the one I know?
I have been asked to do an O P showing my beliefs and have written anutshell view to fill that request.
I was a skeptic till the age of 39. I then had an apotheosis and laterbranded myself an esoteric ecumenist and Gnostic Christian. Gnostic Christianbecause I exemplify this quote from William Blake and that makes me as hated byChristians today as the ancient Gnostics that Constantine had the Christianskill when he bought the Catholic Church.
Both read the Bible day andnight, But thou read'st black where I read white.
This refers to how Gnostics tend to reverse, for moral reasons, whatChristians see in the Bible. We tend to recognize the evil ways of the O. T.God where literal Christians will see Gods killing as good.Christians are sheep where Gnostic Christians are goats.
This is perhaps why we see the use of a Jesus scapegoat as immoral,while theists like to make Jesus their beast of burden. An immoral position.
During my apotheosis, something that only lasted 5 or 6 seconds, theonly things of note to happen was that my paradigm of reality was confirmed andI was chastised to think more demographically. What I found was what I call acosmic consciousness. Not a new term but one that is a close but not exact fit.
I recognize that I have no proof. That is always the way withapotheosis.
This is also why I prefer to stick to issues of morality because no onehas yet been able to prove that God is real and I have no more proof than theyfor the cosmic consciousness or what I call; the Godhead.
The cosmic consciousness is not a miracle working God. It does notinterfere with us save when one of us finds it. Not a common thing from what Ican see. It is a part of nature and our next evolutionary step.
I tend to have more in common with atheists who ignore what they see asmy delusion because our morals are basically identical. Theist tend not to likeme much as I have no respect for literalists and fundamentals and think thatmost Christians have exaggerated tribal mentalities and poor morals as theyhave developed a double standard to be able to stomach their God.
I am rather between a rock and a hard place but this I cannot help.
I am happy to be questioned on what I believe but whether or not Godexists is basically irrelevant to this world for all that he does not do, and Iprefer to thrash out moral issues that can actually find an end point. Thesearch for God is never ending when you are of the Gnostic persuasion. Myapotheosis basically says that I am to ignore whatever God I found, God as aset of rules that is, not idol worship it but instead, raise my bar ofexcellence and seek further.
My apotheosis also showed me that God has no need for love, adoration orobedience. He has no needs. Man has dominion here on earth and is to be and isthe supreme being.
Since then, I have tried to collect information that would help any thatbelieve that apotheosis is possible, generally not Christians, --- as they donot believe in the mythical esoteric Jesus that I believe in and churches donot dare teach it.
This first clip gives the theological and philosophical interpretationof what Jesus taught and the second clip show what I think is a closerepresentation of the method that helped me push my apotheosis.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alRNbesfXXw&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdSVl_HOo8Y
Basically, the usual Christian Jesus is their hero and savior while myversion demand that man himself steps up to the plate and save himself.
Which version do you think is more moral and deserving of praise andwhy?
Regards
DL
I have been asked to do an O P showing my beliefs and have written anutshell view to fill that request.
I was a skeptic till the age of 39. I then had an apotheosis and laterbranded myself an esoteric ecumenist and Gnostic Christian. Gnostic Christianbecause I exemplify this quote from William Blake and that makes me as hated byChristians today as the ancient Gnostics that Constantine had the Christianskill when he bought the Catholic Church.
Both read the Bible day andnight, But thou read'st black where I read white.
This refers to how Gnostics tend to reverse, for moral reasons, whatChristians see in the Bible. We tend to recognize the evil ways of the O. T.God where literal Christians will see Gods killing as good.Christians are sheep where Gnostic Christians are goats.
This is perhaps why we see the use of a Jesus scapegoat as immoral,while theists like to make Jesus their beast of burden. An immoral position.
During my apotheosis, something that only lasted 5 or 6 seconds, theonly things of note to happen was that my paradigm of reality was confirmed andI was chastised to think more demographically. What I found was what I call acosmic consciousness. Not a new term but one that is a close but not exact fit.
I recognize that I have no proof. That is always the way withapotheosis.
This is also why I prefer to stick to issues of morality because no onehas yet been able to prove that God is real and I have no more proof than theyfor the cosmic consciousness or what I call; the Godhead.
The cosmic consciousness is not a miracle working God. It does notinterfere with us save when one of us finds it. Not a common thing from what Ican see. It is a part of nature and our next evolutionary step.
I tend to have more in common with atheists who ignore what they see asmy delusion because our morals are basically identical. Theist tend not to likeme much as I have no respect for literalists and fundamentals and think thatmost Christians have exaggerated tribal mentalities and poor morals as theyhave developed a double standard to be able to stomach their God.
I am rather between a rock and a hard place but this I cannot help.
I am happy to be questioned on what I believe but whether or not Godexists is basically irrelevant to this world for all that he does not do, and Iprefer to thrash out moral issues that can actually find an end point. Thesearch for God is never ending when you are of the Gnostic persuasion. Myapotheosis basically says that I am to ignore whatever God I found, God as aset of rules that is, not idol worship it but instead, raise my bar ofexcellence and seek further.
My apotheosis also showed me that God has no need for love, adoration orobedience. He has no needs. Man has dominion here on earth and is to be and isthe supreme being.
Since then, I have tried to collect information that would help any thatbelieve that apotheosis is possible, generally not Christians, --- as they donot believe in the mythical esoteric Jesus that I believe in and churches donot dare teach it.
This first clip gives the theological and philosophical interpretationof what Jesus taught and the second clip show what I think is a closerepresentation of the method that helped me push my apotheosis.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alRNbesfXXw&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdSVl_HOo8Y
Basically, the usual Christian Jesus is their hero and savior while myversion demand that man himself steps up to the plate and save himself.
Which version do you think is more moral and deserving of praise andwhy?
Regards
DL
