caregiver only.. are you allowed to sample..?

CyberSmoke

CyberSmoke

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Can't find an answer on this
seems to me if they allow you to be a caregiver without being a patient then they must assume your at least sampling. ...right..?
 
ProfessorPotSnob

ProfessorPotSnob

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I have a feeling that this is a trivial question and of course a nurse is not suppose to take the drugs prescribed for patients . It does happen though , even in hospitals :(
Most caregivers I have meet who were not a patient themselves were in it for cash anyway and would not smoke it regardless .
 
CyberSmoke

CyberSmoke

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ProfessorPotSnob said:
I have a feeling that this is a trivial question and of course a nurse is not suppose to take the drugs prescribed for patients . It does happen though , even in hospitals :(
Most caregivers I have meet who were not a patient themselves were in it for cash anyway and would not smoke it regardless .
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only nurses don't manufacturer there meds right..
simply a question .. I am a caregiver patient just wanting an answer to a seemingly obvious outcome is all
 
CashCrops

CashCrops

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Unfortunately laws themselves (especially medical marijuana related) are open to interpretation. That's why contacting a lawyer (N.O.R.M.L would be your best bet) is what anyone with questions regarding medical marijuana should do and not take advice that may get you incarcerated.

http://www.minorml.org/
 
Weedz b Baked

Weedz b Baked

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What's the point of asking this question?

Think about it this way. What gives the caregiver the right to 'sample' when he/she has no symptoms and has no reason to use it medicinally. If you're asking if it's illegal I would hope you could figure it out yourself and not have to read it anywhere because if you're not a patient and haven't been qualified to use cannabis medicinally then it's obviously illegal.

Were you expecting to find a certain clause that said if you're a caregiver and not a patient you can still sample because you're growing it? Come on now..

If you're not sick and you don't need cannabis for medicinal reasons it's illegal. I thought that was pretty obvious but apparently not.
 
abe supercro

abe supercro

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yeah sample like 1 gram/day, but no more than 1/8 per wk. courts are ok w smidgen, not bowl-smoking awl day long if you're notta patient. also if you vaporize it then 'they' know it's mostly to look out for your patients for flavor n potency testing.
 
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jonnynobody

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abe supercro said:
yeah sample like 1 gram/day, but no more than 1/8 per wk. courts are ok w smidgen, not bowl-smoking awl day long if you're notta patient. also if you vaporize it then 'they' know it's mostly to look out for your patients for flavor n potency testing.
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As always, vintage material Abe lol

The older I grow though the less I have tolerance for lazy people that just choose not to read the law which takes a whopping 15 minutes of your time and then said people come here to ask ridiculous questions such as this. NO you do not get to put your hand in the cookie jar chief...at least not legally, however as my lawyer always told me - if you're gonna break the law, just don't get caught.
 
smokinafatty

smokinafatty

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idk but there's no way I could grow it and not smoke it. They're not going to know what you do in your living room, toke up.
 
Cory and trevor

Cory and trevor

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If you are allowed to possess it, that would include possession by ingestion. Possession charges have been dropped on or people for internal possession for decades. Several friends in school got MIP charges for for internal possession (consumption) I see no reason that legal interpretation would not be reciprocal.
 
Medical420MI

Medical420MI

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Is it legal? No. You consuming your patients meds is not you ASSISTING IN THEIR MEDICAL USE. That said, you are legally allowed to posess so I don't see how you could be caught. Short of smoking in front of a leo. So unless you got to take random tests for something, toke on!
 
ProfessorPotSnob

ProfessorPotSnob

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CyberSmoke said:
only nurses don't manufacturer there meds right..
simply a question .. I am a caregiver patient just wanting an answer to a seemingly obvious outcome is all
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True but then again not all caregivers grow , some just network and never sample due to the laws and others of course do as they please .. Its not like LEO can drop a caregiver and if they tried I would tell them to piss off literally !
 
Cory and trevor

Cory and trevor

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Medical420MI said:
Is it legal? No. You consuming your patients meds is not you ASSISTING IN THEIR MEDICAL USE. That said, you are legally allowed to posess so I don't see how you could be caught. Short of smoking in front of a leo. So unless you got to take random tests for something, toke on!
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I think you could stretch it say it was assisting in a quality control aspect. like you say, moot point how will they find out but I still say that possession isn't limited to external bodily possession so you can have it in your system making it legal. call it a personal opinion formed while listening to a lawyer say he could definitely defend it.
 
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tomcatjones

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Cory and trevor said:
I think you could stretch it say it was assisting in a quality control aspect. like you say, moot point how will they find out but I still say that possession isn't limited to external bodily possession so you can have it in your system making it legal. call it a personal opinion formed while listening to a lawyer say he could definitely defend it.
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I WISH

but... here is our law.

[FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif](f) "Medical use" means the acquisition, possession, cultivation, manufacture, use, internal possession, delivery, transfer, or transportation of marihuana or paraphernalia relating to the administration of marihuana to treat or alleviate a registered qualifying patient's debilitating medical condition or symptoms associated with the debilitating medical condition.[/FONT]

[FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif]two separate statutory constructions of possestion, one internal and one not. and both are reserved to medical use.

general possession is allowed in section 4 for the caregiver... here

[/FONT](b) A primary caregiver who has been issued and possesses a registry identification card shall not be subject to arrest, prosecution, or penalty in any manner, or denied any right or privilege, including but not limited to civil penalty or disciplinary action by a business or occupational or professional licensing board or bureau, for assisting a qualifying patient to whom he or she is connected through the department's registration process with the medical use of marihuana in accordance with this act. The privilege from arrest under this subsection applies only if the primary caregiver presents both his or her registry identification card and a valid driver license or government-issued identification card that bears a photographic image of the primary caregiver. This subsection applies only if the primary caregiver possesses an amount of marihuana that does not exceed:
(1) 2.5 ounces of usable marihuana for each qualifying patient to whom he or she is connected through the department's registration process; and
(2) for each registered qualifying patient who has specified that the primary caregiver will be allowed under state law to cultivate marihuana for the qualifying patient, 12 marihuana plants kept in an enclosed, locked facility; and
(3) any incidental amount of seeds, stalks, and unusable roots.
(c) A person shall not be denied custody or visitation of a minor for acting in accordance with this act, unless the person's behavior is such that it creates an unreasonable danger to the minor that can be clearly articulated and substantiated.
(d) There shall be a presumption that a qualifying patient or primary caregiver is engaged in the medical use of marihuana in accordance with this act if the qualifying patient or primary caregiver:
(1) is in possession of a registry identification card; and
(2) is in possession of an amount of marihuana that does not exceed the amount allowed under this act. The presumption may be rebutted by evidence that conduct related to marihuana was not for the purpose of alleviating the qualifying patient's debilitating medical condition or symptoms associated with the debilitating medical condition, in accordance with this act.
 
Cory and trevor

Cory and trevor

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so....this time we shot ourselves by writing it in there? DAMN IT WTF did we get right in that fucking act? had that not been in there specifically stating that I think possession would have to include internal but that doesn't seem to mean dick. I'm amazed daily by the interpretations of it and the stupid stuff we did/didn't put in there.
 
Cory and trevor

Cory and trevor

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happens all the time Greg; ask the kaya provision center owners. nobody has to tell a cop where they got the meds they possess if its legal to do so...but they did.
 
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