Caregiver Seeking New Patients in Crystal Falls, Iron River, Iron Mountain (U.P., MI)

Dankster420

Member
mmmm crop pics :)
White Rhino:2010-08-09 22.11.29.jpg
Jackie (Jack Herer)IMG_0018.JPG
Purple #1IMG_0022.JPGDO NOT GET THIS STRAIN! I got nanners on it and noticed it was in Jason Kings Cannabible 3 with nanners too.
Purple #1 has a genetic tendency to herm!! My last time trying the strain ever. Smelled like rotting fruit and nice night high though. Beautiful colors throughout
2010-05-04 15.08.19.jpgBubblegum
 

Dankster420

Member
well in that case i dont understand why prescription pharmacies can't donate their meds to other patients for "donations." Word it any way you want but its still a transaction of capital (money) for services (cannabis).
Now if you tell me that you donate to dispensaries and get NO donations AND dont charge your patients Id be more interested. But you are making money and choosing to interpret the law your way its fine. Just dont slander me for doing it the way I feel is lawful.

Define a donation: Its giving capital to someone else without compensation of any kind. If you get money its no longer a "donation"

P.S. I am talking 4 plant rotation for 5 patients, not for 1 or 2. Harvest 4 per mo. I of course will accomidate plants for amount of patients. If i dont need 4 i wont grow 4. or with my handy quantum i can dim my light to 500 700 or 1000 if i want to harvest less. or turn off my 400. w.e.
 

Dankster420

Member
And like I said before... in an earlier post. If I have extra for any reason, and my patient has an ounce for example, I would be happy to give them free meds. And even if I dont have extra, once I cover my costs for the month I would also freely share my meds. More importantly I have a job and so does my gf, two in fact. So if you want to make comments about me growing to make pure profits than go ahead because I am of the working class. My parents arent rich. I dont have anyone to fall back on. I have myself, my head, and my heart with me in all my decisions and endeavors.

PS if you go to church and donate for your own selfish good luck, than lets talk karma. If I donate to the church, its simply to donate to a cause greater than myself. If god exists he will know what to do with the money, believe me. And I hope the last place my church donation goes is back in my pocket.
 

djfloms

Well-Known Member
Wow, the assholes on this forum are building up. Sorry to see your thread was hijacked to. You should take a look at mine. i had a guy flaming me for close to 2 pages. Keep up the good work :o)
 

Dankster420

Member
Hey I know its rediculous. I saw yours and was going to reply but it seems that some people are just never going to see the light. They somehow justify selling off loads at a time to dispensaries by giving their patients free meds, and it just makes it that much harder for honest people to be caregivers. I dont want to dump a load of bud off at a dfispensary and I just want my 5 patients so I just didnt even feel like writing any more on this site. There are no moderators and it suffers. Thanks for the support though and good luck! PM me sometime if you wanna exchange advice, or whatever.
 

rzza

Well-Known Member
Why havent I opened this thread earlier?!?! great comedic value!
OMG EVERYONE IN THIS THREAD IS A COMPLETE IDIOT WITH NO KNOWLEDGE OF HOW THIS PROGRAM WORKS WHATSOEVER!!!!
 

Murfy

Well-Known Member
i'd bet-

rzza's got more of the "stuff" in his pocket lint, than most in their life.
 

LordWinter

New Member
Why havent I opened this thread earlier?!?! great comedic value!
OMG EVERYONE IN THIS THREAD IS A COMPLETE IDIOT WITH NO KNOWLEDGE OF HOW THIS PROGRAM WORKS WHATSOEVER!!!!
Took you that long to figure it out, bro? Idiots aren't the problem, though. They're just a symptom of a bigger issue... no active moderation. Its rare that you see a mod step in and say "Okay guys, calm down and keep it civil" or "{insert name here}, that's enough. We get that you think pot should be free, but shout it in your own thread and stay out of these. You're harassing these folks and it is time to stop.". In the absence of such a presence, the idiots have gotten the impression that they can say whatever the hell they want and nobody can stop them. Shame on the staff for letting it get this far out of hand.

As for the OP, good luck finding patients, and good work on finding a system that gets you paid for your hard work without ripping off the patients. We've been paying for pot in this country for more than half a century, I have no fucking clue why it's such a problem now.
 

Zildjian

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Just came across this thread, and I may be from Oregon, and I am assuming the laws are pretty much the same there. When you were quoting charges that you incur for growing your medicine you included, elec, water, nuits, as well as RENT, and LABOR. Um excuse me but why should any patient be paying your rent, and you are not supposed to charge for your LABOR. Should the patient also be paying your car payment as well to run, and pick up those nuits. YOU SIR ARE OUT OF CONTROL. LOL
 

rzza

Well-Known Member
im sure he included rent cause he rents a warehouse or growhouse of some sort.

why is it anyones business how much he charges or if he charges? he simply offered his services. take it or leave it.:finger:

i just left my dads where he was puffing on some adavair thing, its like an asma inhaler (how he described it) that cost him $349.50 and that only lasts like a week or some shit. maybe you should spend some time writing the pharm companies?
 

Buddy Ganga

Active Member
What he does isn't any of my business or my concern.

It's the people they are soliciting that I'm looking out for.

I post in these threads to let potential victims aka "patients" see what others are willing to do for them so they can make better decisions.
They can sign up with one of those "Don't care and don't give a shit" dealers, or they can sign with someone who actually cares and gives back to those giving to them.

There are plenty of ways to recoup costs without biting the hand that feeds you, or taking advantage of others.
People need to stop using bullshit excuses and inflated costs to justify their greed.
Those low rent types can take that kind of shit to bud trader or Craigs list.
 

Dankster420

Member
Just came across this thread, and I may be from Oregon, and I am assuming the laws are pretty much the same there. When you were quoting charges that you incur for growing your medicine you included, elec, water, nuits, as well as RENT, and LABOR. Um excuse me but why should any patient be paying your rent, and you are not supposed to charge for your LABOR. Should the patient also be paying your car payment as well to run, and pick up those nuits. YOU SIR ARE OUT OF CONTROL. LOL
I only included Rent and labor for the reason that rzza explained. I do rent a location just to grow so rent is a payment. And as for labor, if you are talking about growing up to 12 plants every 3 months its understandable that you shouldnt ever charge any kind of labor. Most people who grow that amount or less spend 15-45 min a day in their grow room (max.) But if you are doing a perpetual harvest and you have bud in 3 stages of growth constantly its almost impossible to keep a 40 week job and keep up with properly growing. I couldnt possibly see myself working full time and still have the ability to harvest, mix solutions, research, order supplies, trim buds monthly, prune, top, bend, transplant, etc. Dispensaries for example are non-profit after paying salaries or hourly wages to employees. So if you legitimately have to 2-5 hours a day growing your patients medicine, I personally dont feel it is unfair to ask for some reimbursment for my time and efforts. The ultimate thing is this. Most everyone replying here is a grower. You already have the lights and supplies for the most part with minor adjustments. Most people dont have the $3-20k to start up a growhouse. If the world was a better and more fair place where everyone had equipment there would be no caregivers and all it would be free (which would be very nice.)
 

Buddy Ganga

Active Member
5 patients-perpetual harvest= 20 plants =2 oz's each = 40 oz's a month.
5 patients paying for meds = maybe 3 oz's each =15 oz's at $200 an ounce = $3000 (or less depending on what you charge)

How is $3000 (or less) enough to cover the expenses to operate this vast empire and compensate you for your time ?
What are you doing with the other 25 oz's a month ?
Given with all of your experiences and knowledge that you only harvest 2oz's a plant.
The size of the harvest is based on the skills, knowledge of the grower.
If you know as much as you let on 3-4 oz plants shouldn't be out of the question.


Here's my point.
As growers we are able to cover our running costs through other growers and caregivers and dare I say dispensaries..
Med transfers, clones, teeners, oils, hash's, eatables.
So why not offer an oz or two of no cost meds to your patients ?
 

Dankster420

Member
Buddy Ganja,
This is not at all an unfair question, and i wish most of your posts were similar to this one, as there are no accusations and a reasonable question. The answer is quite simple as well. In my reading of the law, it is my personal understanding that I can only sell to my 5 patients. And although "trades" are in a grey area, i feel like accepting a "donation" for your meds is sugarcoating a sale, which then isnt covered by the proposition because the patient/caregiver/dispensary isnt one of your 5. You can read it your way, and act as you feel the law allows but I feel like its pretty clear only only selling to 5 patients.

So.. before I even started i knew I wouldnt need to grow 60 plants (20 veg, 20 early flower, 20 finishing flower) with 8 week finishing ability. Like you said that is inflated and its basically overkill. So if we do the math, we are looking at 8 plants a month at 2 oz each. And i would disagree with you on the 3-4 oz per plant in my situation because I use seedlings mostly and only several clones, so in a month of veg they dont get very big, and it limits their ability to produce more than 2oz per plant.

8 plants x 2 oz = 16 oz
5 patients and myself x 2.5 (about)= 15oz
that looks about right to me... and one ounce left over to distribute for free to patients, monthly raffle, or make medibles/hash. bongsmilie
 

Buddy Ganga

Active Member
So you are saying you are a primary caregiver and a qualifying patient ?
Or are you just a "primary caregiver" ?

If you are not sure about transfers then where do you go for clones?
 
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