Climate in the 21st Century

Will Humankind see the 22nd Century?

  • Not a fucking chance

    Votes: 45 29.2%

  • Maybe. if we get our act together

    Votes: 38 24.7%

  • Yes, we will survive

    Votes: 71 46.1%
  • Total voters
    154
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schuylaar

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PJ Diaz said:
Not really, as science is by definition, never settled. It's not at all dissimilar to those who attempt to constrain spirituality based solely upon past doctrine (aka religion).
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This is heavy PJ.

No comment on your second sentence.

My Data Maven Neurologist says in her world a fact is not a fact until it is:lol:..so I guess you're right going by her definition.

Attention all Gen Xers..we have issue with Part D..sadly the cherubs can't count because let me tell you they..count..every..fucking..pill..which would work if they could math..this is only a calendar + elementary school level..addition? subtraction?

Anyone that I interact with must be able to pass a simple math test with a few algebraic concepts intro'd.
 
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schuylaar

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DIY-HP-LED said:
The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious and science strips mystery away and thus the beauty. I see it in the world of meditation where the romantic can have their delusions stripped away by reality sometimes. It's just an exercise like running, get over it! :lol: Buddhism tends to attract the intellectual romantics, as it were, who are drawn by the psychological aspects and the promise of enlightenment blended with traditional superstitions and magical powers. They have no idea of what is involved in attaining the sublime state, some have a propensity and others do not, just like any other "talent". I could probably make money teaching people to use the "force", a lot of scifi mythology is built on Buddhist themes and there's one born every minute! Damn conscience! Breathe, just breathe, but don't expect to move rocks telekinetically :lol: Though you will be happier.
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I can't waiiiiiiiit to do mushrooms.

Does you use a metronome?
 
PJ Diaz

PJ Diaz

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schuylaar said:
I can't waiiiiiiiit to do mushrooms.

Does you use a metronome?
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Mushrooms and a metronome don't seem like a happy mix to me. You'll end up obsessing over the ticking seconds of life or some shit. The best mushroom trips I've had are free from constraints such as time and obligations.
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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cannabineer said:
I so very much disagree. For me at least, science enables the beauty of the natural.

The closest metaphor I can find is music. Learning to read the score in no way diminishes music’s beauty.
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“The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. He to whom the emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand wrapped in awe, is as good as dead —his eyes are closed. The insight into the mystery of life, coupled though it be with fear, has also given rise to religion. To know what is impenetrable to us really exists, manifesting itself as the highest wisdom and the most radiant beauty, which our dull faculties can comprehend only in their most primitive forms—this knowledge, this feeling is at the center of true religiousness.”

― Albert Einstein, Living Philosophies
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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DIY-HP-LED said:
“The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. He to whom the emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand wrapped in awe, is as good as dead —his eyes are closed. The insight into the mystery of life, coupled though it be with fear, has also given rise to religion. To know what is impenetrable to us really exists, manifesting itself as the highest wisdom and the most radiant beauty, which our dull faculties can comprehend only in their most primitive forms—this knowledge, this feeling is at the center of true religiousness.”

― Albert Einstein, Living Philosophies
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Knowing science has heightened my experience of the mysterious. You proceed from some opaque wrong thing.
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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cannabineer said:
Knowing science has heightened my experience of the mysterious. You proceed from some opaque wrong thing.
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My intention was to illustrate that by stripping the mystery away from religion science also destroyed its beauty for many. Science and the study of nature has its own inherent mysteries and beauty, but alas many are blind to it, but nonetheless enjoy its fruits.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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DIY-HP-LED said:
“The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. He to whom the emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand wrapped in awe, is as good as dead —his eyes are closed. The insight into the mystery of life, coupled though it be with fear, has also given rise to religion. To know what is impenetrable to us really exists, manifesting itself as the highest wisdom and the most radiant beauty, which our dull faculties can comprehend only in their most primitive forms—this knowledge, this feeling is at the center of true religiousness.”

― Albert Einstein, Living Philosophies
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that quote in no way implies that science strips away the mysteries of life.
if anything, science reveals more wonders to be explored, with every new discovery
 
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Roger A. Shrubber

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DIY-HP-LED said:
My intention was to illustrate that by stripping the mystery away from religion science also destroyed its beauty for many. Science and the study of nature has its own inherent mysteries and beauty, but alas many are blind to it, but nonetheless enjoy its fruits.
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the only beauty in religion is in the architecture and art it inspired...otherwise it is just a constantly misused and abused tool.
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
the only beauty in religion is in the architecture and art it inspired...otherwise it is just a constantly misused and abused tool.
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For many it is the spiritual aspects and not just for Christianity either. The refusal to accept evolution for instance, because we are so special and actually the center of the entire universe. The denial that we and loved ones won't live on for an eternity in a supernatural realm, that there is no ultimate justice and God won't get them. All the mysteries of the Bible that many obsess about, the denial of death and egotism are powerful forces in human nature and warp our perspectives, especially when facing trauma. Science grew and offered alternative explanations for phenomena than the powers of demons, ghosts, spirts and wizards along with all that mystery... Some people resent having their world views challenged and shattered, or more often eroded over time and new information, even if they try to filter it out. The power of science is that it works, and it also has the power of prophecy, and predicting celestial events was just one of them.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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DIY-HP-LED said:
For many it is the spiritual aspects and not just for Christianity either. The refusal to accept evolution for instance, because we are so special and actually the center of the entire universe. The denial that we and loved ones won't live on for an eternity in a supernatural realm, that there is no ultimate justice and God won't get them. All the mysteries of the Bible that many obsess about, the denial of death and egotism are powerful forces in human nature and warp our perspectives, especially when facing trauma. Science grew and offered alternative explanations for phenomena than the powers of demons, ghosts, spirts and wizards along with all that mystery... Some people resent having their world views challenged and shattered, or more often eroded over time and new information, even if they try to filter it out. The power of science is that it works, and it also has the power of prophecy, and predicting celestial events was just one of them.
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you can call that beauty, and maybe that's how they perceive it, but that is self imposed ignorance...the bliss of the ignorant is not beautiful to anyone but themselves.
 
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schuylaar

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cannabineer said:
shopping locally doesn’t work in the middle of east nowhere.
I don’t know how an eye mask figures in.

How do you shop for good fitted sheets?
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Bedroom>Bed Sheets>Bed Sheets Material then Size then Color.

If you're looking for cheap stretchy guaranteed to fit just get bamboo..Bed, Bath Beyond, Macys.

I can't PM you do you want me to show you some things and I can post link? I need bed size, color.
 
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schuylaar

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DIY-HP-LED said:
For many it is the spiritual aspects and not just for Christianity either. The refusal to accept evolution for instance, because we are so special and actually the center of the entire universe. The denial that we and loved ones won't live on for an eternity in a supernatural realm, that there is no ultimate justice and God won't get them. All the mysteries of the Bible that many obsess about, the denial of death and egotism are powerful forces in human nature and warp our perspectives, especially when facing trauma. Science grew and offered alternative explanations for phenomena than the powers of demons, ghosts, spirts and wizards along with all that mystery... Some people resent having their world views challenged and shattered, or more often eroded over time and new information, even if they try to filter it out. The power of science is that it works, and it also has the power of prophecy, and predicting celestial events was just one of them.
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E=mc² is still true though, right?
 
captainmorgan

captainmorgan

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The Mississippi and Colorado rivers are at historic lows and the winter precipitation forecast is to be well below average. Will they run completely dry next summer?
 
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captainmorgan

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It's looking like the people in power know that cooperation around the world to solve the climate carbon problem is a pipe dream. It appears that they are relying on a major die off of the population to lower the carbon output.
 
Grandpapy

Grandpapy

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hanimmal said:
I imagine it the other way around. How long until Mars is in our distance and it starts having running water and life.
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Dont take the flight! :lol:

Are any planets moving away from the Sun?



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It's not just Earth, either; every planet drifts away from its parent star. Here's the science of why. An accurate model of how the planets orbit the Sun, which then moves through the galaxy in a...Jan 3, 2019
 
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