Clones dying WTF?????

Ok its been 7 days exactly and not 1 fucking root. All I'm getting is a brown rotted stem on ALL of them. They sit in humidity dome and used clonex gel at 45 degree cut. I've watched every video and post on cloning wtf am I doing wrong? All I'm getting is brown rotted stems no roots..... I'm on my BlackBerry right now ill post pics in about a hour back at the grow room. Any help is appreciated

Did you clip leaves and spray them with water? I use root 66 and B1 thrive alive red and spray them first time. After just water. I've only seen roots in 7 days on two out of about 30 clones I've made. You'll see them more around 10-12 from my experience. If what you give is brown then the roots will be brown. They soak it all up. Also make sure whatever you use is wet but not dripping. My clones always look sad before they get all happy. Also found that 24/0 roots faster for me then 18/6. All I use is my fishes 17 watt purple looking light and that shit WORKS!! Lol I couldn't believe it but it did. Just one too about 18" long. If you haven't clipped the big fan leaves and left only like two on there trimmed up I'd do that now. I forgot that part and to spray them first time I did it and went back and did it after they where almost dead and they look amazing now. Transplanted and all.

Everyone has different opinions about cloning. I use rapid rooters in coco. Ever since I started scraping the sides of my clones properly and always making sure I have an node below the "soil" line, I've been 100% successful. I quit using a humidity dome. I took clones two days ago and not a single one wilted. Last time I cloned, every one had roots sticking out the bottom in less than two weeks.I think the most important thing about cloning is learning how to take proper cuts.

Brown rotten stems and slime indicate a Bacterial colony taking place within your cloner due to high temps as well as water quality .. Keep the temps under 78 and closer to 75 if you want to avoid this plague .. One quick google of clone slime will give you insight into pithium and the likes ..

^^^ I thought warm is what you want for clones as the heat will help root faster hence the reason ppl buy heating pads, no??? Question not being smart ass cause I don't use heating pad and my temps are anywhere from 70-80 F. I was thinking of heating pad but reading what you just wrote has me wondering. Also YES I forgot that you have to ever so lightly scrape the sides that touch whatever your medium is. I too use RR and honestly have 100% success. I use the dome tho. Only time I didn't none made it so never again without it. For me at least.

Weedpublican, it sounds like professorpotsnob is correct. That kind of rot is indicative of some sort of infection. I think your best bet would be a thorough cleaning (with bleach) of all of your supplies that you use in cloning and then try again. Your method sounds correct you just need to kill off whatever the infection is. Better luck on your next round of clones.

And Spectator, you're right, you do want a warm humid environment for clones. However, if there is bacteria or some other sort of infection lurking on your cloning gear, the warm humid air creates an ideal place for that sort of stuff to grow and sadly ruin your shit in turn.

....try an aerocloner http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc1ruX8ClRk&feature=fvwrel

7 days is not long enough to pass judgment just because there aren't roots yet. What cloning method are you doing? What do the leaves look like? One of the biggest factors is the temp of the potential root area. Some strains take a over two weeks to start rooting, just relax...

Huel Perkins said:

7 days is not long enough to pass judgment just because there aren't roots yet. What cloning method are you doing? What do the leaves look like? One of the biggest factors is the temp of the potential root area. Some strains take a over two weeks to start rooting, just relax...

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This is what they looked like earlier, the two that have slumped over have been thrown out.......





The 4 that were good have been recut, redipped in clonex, and placed in rapid rooter plugs. The room the clone tray was in was hot, figure thats what killed them the temps were to much for the dome. ALSO noticed the rockwool was holding alot of water from the humidity, the rockwool was soaked with water and I think thats what also helped the stems rot out. The rapid rooter plugs hold them alot better and doesnt hold as much moisture...

You want to keep the plugs moist but never dripping wet. You want to keep the root zone around 80 degrees, when I used to use rock wool I always used a heating pad under them.

Those clones don't look as bad you made them sound... shoulda just let them go longer and next time maybe cut the leaves back more.

I leave clones going for 2 weeks and never had a problem.

Yeah I think the rockwool was holding to much water that was the main concern, it was soaked with water. The rapid rooter plugs are alot more dry just to the touch thanks for the help fellas

Check out my grow in my sig, it shows my roots at 7 days which is barely anything but at two weeks BOOM!

Some strains just don't like to be cloned either. I first started cloning with an EZ cloner.. but had a lot of clones that didn't make it.. I started using soil, and my success rate is like 99%.. I may have the odd one die every few months.

I cut clones off mother at 45deg, clip off the first two fan leaves from the bottom up.. Scrape one side raw, and apply a bit of AN Juicy Root (less is better, because roots wont start developing until the stuff is absorbed). I stick it into a small 3 inch pot, cut the first remaining fan leaf in half, to focus upwards growth, put it in a humidity dome, and keep it REAL wet for about 7-10 days, and re-pot when I see that bottom leaf turned yellow, and dead.. That's when you know its rooted. They don't like light that is too intense either.. I use a 12 inch Floro, and they love it.

I soak my clones at the 45 degree cut area in cool water w/superthrive before I scrape.I think that helps.I also use indirect light from a 1000mh.It works better then the flor. for me

Any of you guys soak your cubes or plugs in a nutrient solution? I use bloom only to make mine up, 100-140ppm + cal/mag if you have RO. I also use a dome and heating pad but do not put water (nutrient solution) in the bottom of the tray. After choosing the best cuts (bottom branches 3-4 nodes) the most important thing for me is to lay off the lights. I open the vents in the dome and then put another black tray on the dome as a cover for at least 8-10 days, I want the plant concentrating it's energy on root development, not photosynthesis. The majority of my clones are ready for transplant (1" roots) in 10-12 days with no yellowing of leaves. Oh, and I don't scrape the sides of the stems but I do make a greater angle cut than 45 degrees. I just took 75 cuts on 11/07 and transplanted 72 yesterday, all but three were totally green and healthy.

lmao right on

i clip and stick directly in wet warm miracle grow soil.thats it they all alive and well. i think it has to do with strain. ive cloned short ryders and they are doing good