Clones not doing well, help please

Who has any ideas?

Just moved from dome to solos.

Dirt blend:
4 parts roots organics 707
1 part roots organics OG
1 part worm castings
1 part perlite
1/2 part coco coir

Conditions:
72.9° 30% RH

Under cfls next to a t5 approx 3' from the t5.
4500-6000 LUX is the range

Any other questions just ask

Thanks!

Did you come up with that soil mix on your own? I think that stuff is your problem but can't pinpoint it. It's obviously a nutrient or pH issue, and when you have nutrient problems you usually have pH problem as well.

30% rh is wayyy to low for clones.





Was the coco rinsed?

probably coco coir issues either there over watered , or ph issues usully i would take clones and place them into only a 50 / 50 mx EWC and seedling starter mix till they kick off growing then next transplant put into your soil reciepe

Too hot, too fast. when they are babies they don't need much nutes. Some simple fox farm is all you need. repot and you should be fine.

I've always used this blend. I'm not sure what you mean when you say too hot, too fast. I've found roots organic og is hotter than 707 so I made a mix of 4 to 1, added some ewc and perlite. The coir is at only a half part which in this case is half a pitcher compared to 5 full pitchers of soil so I don't think it's the coir which has been washed and has sat for months after the wash.

I tried planting a clone in just 707 and it still is looking the same which I didn't expect at all since my environment hasn't changed too much.

I found fox farm ocean forest to be around the same level of hotness as the roots organic original, that's why in only use 1 part.

I'm open to changing my soil mix, just because I've been doing it the same so long now (a few years) and don't really know why in only by I settled on using 707 instead of a different base.

For the record in that mix I have used ocean forest and tried happy frog and the 707 was best to me so I think that's why I settled on it, and it did work for a long time.

Anyone have any ideas about ewc? Mine have been sitting awhile, anyone know if that could have anything to do with it? I personally don't think so but hey, ya never know... its to the point where I'm just baffled. I don't know how a mix can work for a long time, with the same environment and just stop all of a sudden...I obviously have to be missing something here.

Oh and also I saw someone say 30% is too low. This is true but 30 does work. Many people live in very dry states and it still works out. For years I never used any humidifiers or domes. Just a hydro cloner and never worried about RH and had a very high success rate.

Now it seems that snytjing I try...dome...misting w h20...foliar w low level nutes...hydro cloner...rapid rooters...clone straight to rapid rooter straight to solo...and probably more that I can't think of right now...same results

Also for the record I never feed my plants on veg. They go from cloner to solo or 1 gal and then to a 5 gal and that's where they live the rest of their lives. All in a month so when the 1 gal runs out, transplanted. Teas are given in flower.

Sorry for rambling!!!! I write novels at times.

I'll post a pic when I go tomorrow of how they have progressed. Thanks guys!

Personally, if you do a lot of cloning I would consider a decent clone machine (tupperware tub with 2" holes and foam inserts with a sprayer pump in the tank, aquarium heater in the water set to 76 degrees and an airstone to oxygenate the water. A little Clonex, and bingo, you'll have roots in a week, pretty much guaranteed. Soil sucks for cloning, as it really is too dry for root development unless it's too wet (stem rot), Go get a tub and the list I gave you (Amazon), and you'll be way better off.

You don't need anything but a cup with some water in it to clone.
I'll agree with the too hot of soil to fast.

I'm currently running an aero cloner and aldo a dome w rapid rooters. I have built my own machine and I also have purchased one. My personally built bucket cloner works better than the store bought aero cloner.

Same results from cloner and dome. Cloner actually is worse actually but both are booty.

My aero is a 5 gallon bucket, sub pump, large air stone connected to a large air pump and a heater that keeps it 78°. I never ran the heater til I had these issues and it didn't change anything.

Also when it comes to nutes, where is it too hot? I have read some people use just ewc or a majority so I know that is fine, people run jus coir and it can work so I'm not sure where there is too much, especially since this has worked for YEARS.

I'm going to get the soil tested soon so if it is something going on in there then we will know.

I have a feeling I'm killing w kindness. I live far from my grow so I go every other day or every 2 days if I watered say Monday I may just go Thursday instead. Someone lives there and keeps an eye on them if need be or water if need be.

I've been going more often so I'm wondering if I'm maybe over watering.

I recently moved my lights around and built a table. The t5 is mounted above the table and a 4' 6 bay t8 is mounted under the table for clones. I have a lux meter and it is showing as very bright, above and below. Now, I have not had the lux meter lomg but wondering if it's too much light. I know I'm not burning w light but wonder if it's just too much. I know what light burn looks like fyi just not sure if this can happen w too muc, just not enough to burn.

Plants are kept around 1 foot away from lightd, clones about 2 foot away.

Thoughts?

Thanks!

If this is what you have been doing for awhile and are just now encountering it then I would look for some kind of pathogen that has entered your grow. Has happened a couple of times with me.

Run some apple cider vinegar through your whole system. its more than likely is a fungi or mold killing your ladies/babies. and run nothing but dyna grow's KLN.

I didn't really think of that. I've looked at my roots when they are done and I have seen no signs of anything though. I now have thrips, could they be the cause? I read they pupate in the soil after falling off the leaves or something like that..