Club 600

Epic, as a suggestion. You don't really need a 600 metal halide to veg your plants. I use t-5 high output fluros for my vegging. You can start your seeds with cfl's to start and then use your metal halide after they get big enough that they need more light. You should be fine for the first week or two under cfl's. I also use a 16/8 light schedule for vegging. My plants tend to start to go to sleep after twelve hours of light so I stopped using the 18/6 schedule for vegging.

EpicChronic420 said:

Thanks for the height tips. Have my mind set on the 18/6 then 12/12. Also im not planning on cloning, no room so one crop at a time

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Sounds like a plan coming together. Like I've said before, if I were to do it again as a novice I would buy a pack or two of femmed seed, and run as many as I could for the space all at once, which could be 6 to 10 in your size space. In the meantime, if you can work out the veg space problem, which doesn;t take a lot for 8 to 10 plants, I would start my next run, if from seed again, about 4 weeks before the plant is to finish. That way your next run is ready to go in as soon as you harvest. Rollin, rollin, rollin......

Will it hurt to have the 600 in there from the start? Cause hydro isnt an issue nor is cost. ive made all the proper calculations as to how much electricity ill use on a monthly bases and im working on bringing up my bill as we speak to where it will be with the 600w on. I have every light in my house on, the computer, both ps3's xbox, laptop you name it its on LOL.

18/6 then 12/12 will get you more but it gives you more time to screw up your plants in veg. And like COF said, growing big plants does not correlate with large yields indoors anyway. I grew 7 foot tall plants in my basement once, they looked like palm trees eventually, since no light got to the bottom foliage. They yeilded about an ounce apiece (Pretty bad). It took like4 months to veg them to that height then 2 more months to flower. What a waste. Thinking back I just have to shake my head.

Heads Up said:

Jig, I do one grow at a time and this time I have to to make sure I kill the little mite bastards running all over the place. It's bombs away again after this grow finishes. I do however also have a tent which I will be using to start my next batch a couple of weeks before this one finishes. I used to use silica religiously and never had pest problems, I suppose it wouldn't hurt to go back to making sure I use it religiously.

Epic, vegging your plants to three feet, in my humble opinion, will not increase your harvest. Basically allowing your plants to grow straight up, only the top third of the plant will receive good lighting and everything underneath will be popcorn buds. Look into supercropping on youtube. I personally don't like my plants getting over thirty inches tall. I just pulled two ounces dry from a plant fourteen inches high and eighteen inches wide grown in a three gallon smart pot. If you veg for three weeks you shouldn't have huge plants when finished and using female seeds to start I also agree is a good idea. I grown more than a few and have never had a problem with hermies at all. If you look at the pics I posted earlier today, the plants on the outsides are both 12/12 from seed in two gallon smart pots and both of the main stems have been supercropped and tied down to restrict their height and allow the lower branching to grow higher and be exposed to more light with the main cola off to the side of the plant.

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friggin' cool vid:

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duchieman said:

Sounds like a plan coming together. Like I've said before, if I were to do it again as a novice I would buy a pack or two of femmed seed, and run as many as I could for the space all at once, which could be 6 to 10 in your size space. In the meantime, if you can work out the veg space problem, which doesn;t take a lot for 8 to 10 plants, I would start my next run, if from seed again, about 4 weeks before the plant is to finish. That way your next run is ready to go in as soon as you harvest. Rollin, rollin, rollin......

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i do have a really nice closet in my room i could split up just for the babies...my wife is gonna be so mad hahaha walk in closet is gonna be mine Muhahahahaha

shnkrmn said:

18/6 then 12/12 will get you more but it gives you more time to screw up your plants in veg. And like COF said, growing big plants does not correlate with large yields indoors anyway. I grew 7 foot tall plants in my basement once, they looked like palm trees eventually, since no light got to the bottom foliage. They yeilded about an ounce apiece (Pretty bad). It took like4 months to veg them to that height then 2 more months to flower. What a waste. Thinking back I just have to shake my head.

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omg that made me wanna cry ok so looks like ima hit up 6-10 plants and growing them each to 3 feet tallish end result?

jig,
yea,me myself keep the train rollin

I agree with Heads Up on the 16/8 cycle. Anything more is a long days work but also, I believe a lot of good stuff happens in the dark. I've always understood that when we're young we grow when we sleep, I believe the same for plant life.

WOW!!!! Im away for a few days and there is more pr0n than you can shake a stick at lol

So a competition is looming ayyy This should be fun and interesting to see where the lil rog winds up hahaha. I got a few places id like to plant the lil duder.

Headsup man sorry to hear of the employment troubles. I personally wont work for anyone who makes me have to piss in a cup. Growing up a hoodlum and in trouble with the law almost nonstop in my younger years I had to piss in a cup almost 2 times a week. Its humiliating, Being put on the spot and demanded to piss. Fuck that shit. However you can beat the piss poachers quite easily if you dont have some peter gazer breathing on your knob whilst taking the test. My good buddy does it all the time as he is moving from job to job in the union and has to pass a drug screen on a regular bases. First get some clean piss from a non smoker or synthetic piss works well too. Then get a large visine bottle an d about an hour before your test you got to get the bottle up to temp. The best way is to put it next to your junk haha. When nobody's watching bada bing dump into the cup.

PISS TEST 101

Now if your being watched its a bit nerve wracking but can be done. Just hook a small clear tube to the visine bottle and hold under the package. It takes some practice obvisously to make it look real, but a good amount of fag trashing the peter gazer should get you a few precious seconds to empty the bottle. Its fucked up that i know such tricks hehe. Im an anarchist at heart hahaha.

And for the clean approach what ive found worked well for me was overloading with water, about a 2 liter about an hour before the test. Then eat a few Vitamin b2 and make sure you piss a few times to get you piss all water. The Vb2 should make your piss yellow so the peter gazer aint dumping out your shit and calling you out on flushing. This method has worked well more than a few times for me but everyone is diffrent soooo. happy studying ole buddy

Also sorry to hear of the mites. They are a BITCH to get rid of. "Safer end all insect killer" and DE worked well for my infestastion. The spray is the only one i could find that killed the mite and eggs. 2 applications wiped em out completely and i think i had a farely bad infestation. GL

Mucho props to all 600 brethren yall are killin it 1BMM

EDIT not implying that you failed ur test HU just offering advice from an old convict hehehe.

EpicChronic420 said:

omg that made me wanna cry ok so looks like ima hit up 6-10 plants and growing them each to 3 feet tallish end result?

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The best I could recommend for you Epic is to get it started and in the time it takes to germ and veg you can pick up a lot of ideas and go from there. Just keep popping in here and poking around other threads, and whatever else your doing and before you know it you'll be going mad trying to make up your mind which way to go. Then you'll end up like a woman who has to rearrange her living room every week, constantly changing things in your room.

Sorry Doobie but your gonna have to eat eventually.

Your right Duchie, its time to get the ball rolling. Thanks to all of you for all the help. Yall in the 600 can come smoke a sesh at my place anyday. Ill keep in touch, believe me lmao. Take Care all!

Hey BMM good to see ya. I've had to do my share of p test too and this is what I've learned. THC stores in body fat. When your hungry, your body draws from your fat and with it the THC. Therefore, like you say, flush, flush and flush with water and make sure you have a full belly. I did this once because I couldn't get my hands on those drinks you can buy and all I can say is I got the job.

EpicChronic420 said:

Your right Duchie, its time to get the ball rolling. Thanks to all of you for all the help. Yall in the 600 can come smoke a sesh at my place anyday. Ill keep in touch, believe me lmao. Take Care all!

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Might take ya up on that one day. I'm about a couple of hours outside the Center of the Universe, if you know what I mean.

Glad to be here Duchie had a close encounter with the grim reaper the other day hauling my scaffold trailer down a steep road and lost all brakes mid way down. I think an angel was with me and grunt that we didnt die. It was utterly insane made a s curv turn at 55 in a 25 zone trucks tired squeeling round the bend and on we coast up the hill to a slight stop. I quick slam the old girl in reverse hoping the tranny would hold her at a stop but the old bitch pop started in reverse and back down the hill we go no brakes steering a 30 foot trailer trying to avoid the s curve bridge crossing holy fuck am i glad to be here How are you doing haha

As a wise man once said:
"I love it when a plan comes together..."

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*repeat in 2 or 3 days (at most, 3 days), and again in another 2 or 3 days.
Then once a week just to keep mind-fornicating them real good.

1badmasonman said:

Glad to be here Duchie had a close encounter with the grim reaper the other day hauling my scaffold trailer down a steep road and lost all brakes mid way down. I think an angel was with me and grunt that we didnt die. It was utterly insane made a s curv turn at 55 in a 25 zone trucks tired squeeling round the bend and on we coast up the hill to a slight stop. I quick slam the old girl in reverse hoping the tranny would hold her at a stop but the old bitch pop started in reverse and back down the hill we go no brakes steering a 30 foot trailer trying to avoid the s curve bridge crossing holy fuck am i glad to be here How are you doing haha

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Damned glad you got some good ju-ju working for you! And don't underestimate your skills, or your desire to stay alive. But you already know that stuff.

1badmasonman said:

Glad to be here Duchie had a close encounter with the grim reaper the other day hauling my scaffold trailer down a steep road and lost all brakes mid way down. I think an angel was with me and grunt that we didnt die. It was utterly insane made a s curv turn at 55 in a 25 zone trucks tired squeeling round the bend and on we coast up the hill to a slight stop. I quick slam the old girl in reverse hoping the tranny would hold her at a stop but the old bitch pop started in reverse and back down the hill we go no brakes steering a 30 foot trailer trying to avoid the s curve bridge crossing holy fuck am i glad to be here How are you doing haha

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Holy crap. Better than you I'm sure. Glad you made it. What ended up stopping you?

littlegrower2004 said:

what did you get your self there jig?

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Hey LG, thanks for asking. I got 6 Larry OG, and 5 Banana OG. I only have 10 slots, but 2 of the larry's are in one rockwool. I'm getting the room ready now. A bit of a mess, but luckily I wasn't too lazy and cleaned pretty good after last grow.

Speaking of your set up Jig, did you ever catch these. I posted them some time ago. I found them for $1.99 each at a used thrift store. I'm wondering if I DIY a cool tube with it how hot the glass will get. They are fairly thin.

duchieman said:

Holy crap. Better than you I'm sure. Glad you made it. What ended up stopping you?

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lol my frantic steering out of the mirrors and god !! we would have been graveyard dead had we made it to the bridge jackknifed, Some how i managed to steer the trailer off the road and up a small ditch and it was just enough to stop the rig. A close call to close