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Heads Up said:

Notorious, you make some good points. Whenever for profits comes to town, quality usually suffers. If they legalize and make the tax for growing too high, it will only keep the indoor growers indoors, it will keep them undercover so the government can't get their fingers into their pie. Just like we do now for any part of the country that doesn't have medical.

However with that said, there is such an industry that could be built around hemp, I still think legalization is the route to take. It may not help individual growers nor the growers in your state but I do think the benefits of such and industry would help the nation as a whole. It would put a lot of people to work.

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I know where youre coming from man. there's definitely a market for hemp and Americans can only middleman hemp because of bullshit laws to where we can only import it and not cultivate our own, but giving the power to the same govt that runs DMV(and wants to take over the entire health care and financial system) to set up this hemp industry would be a disaster. it would be solely based off how much the beauracrats could skim off the top while completely screwing the people who make it all work. All the workers would be unionized and then inevitably become state workers for the hemp branch of the govt just like GM. Dispensary workers are being unionized as we speak...there's not much of a "free market" anymore with the govt in power

jigfresh said:

It just breaks my heart that anyone would want to keep pot illegal. Kills me. Taxes or no taxes. Sad.

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Agreed. there are too many people out there that could benefit from it instead of having to take Oxy's and other fucked up prescribed medications that just end up enslaving the patient to the big pharmas

Due to an automobile accident I spent 6 months on oxycoton and was able to quit cold turkey and when the doc asked how I told him it all because of mj. I think he would prescribe it if it were legal.

Does anyone have any ideas or links to help legalize medical mj? Some of us from my state are trying to pursue this and any help would be appreciated.


cof

curious old fart said:

Due to an automobile accident I spent 6 months on oxycoton and was able to quit cold turkey and when the doc asked how I told him it all because of mj. I think he would prescribe it if it were legal.

Does anyone have any ideas or links to help legalize medical mj? Some of us from my state are trying to pursue this and any help would be appreciated.


cof

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that made my day hearing that cof

all I can say is petition petition petition to get the ball rolling. I dont know where you live and if your state has direct ballot initiatives where if you got enough petitions it could then be on the general ballot to vote on, but petitions either way are the best way to get it started

Here's my harvest pics. Just finished an figured I'd share. Took 7 hours for 3 people to trim. The buds are the most dense I've ever grown. Solid as rocks. I ended up with almost a full 13gal garbage bag full of leaf trim and I am cutting down all of the lower growth in a few days and will make more hash with it and the leaf trim. From past experiance it looks to be around the same amount of herb(roughly a pound) and I should get about 2.5oz of hash from all the trim and popcorn buds. Keep in mind this is only the Piss harvest(half the room). The Blue Kush will be harvested in about 4 weeks.

Notoriousb

Thank you for an excellant suggestion, however, I live in one our counservative southern states and the majority would not approve. It needs to be approached thru the legislature as a medical necessity, showing needs and fiscal savings in law enforcement and related fields.
I think what I need is a composite of the laws and how it is dispensed thru the states where it is legal and what impact it has made financially.
Ideally a legislator or their close relative who is going to a medically friendly state for help would be a huge asset.
Anyway, that is my train of thought at this time, but I am wide open for ideas.


cof

Integra

Mouth-watering buds and pictures.
Very well done!


cof

hey guys im going to be getting a 600w digital hps system this wednesday i plan on growing a bunch of short stuff auto assassins under it there autoflower.... i got a hortilux bulb how many plants you think i can stick under that 600 for optimum performance and any tips suggested would help thanks guys ... this is gonna be first time growing indoors

also gonna be growing in promix hp mostly peat moss and a bunch of perilite

Heads Up said:

Just for the sake of discussion. What do you guys think will happen if california legalizes weed this upcoming election? For the life of me I just do not understand why those in charge only see pot for smoking and not the whole industry that could be built around hemp? The bible thumping conservatives in this country will never go for the legalization of something they see to be a danger to the american family. I was hoping that that type of thinking is becoming the minority in america.

So, for discussion sake, will california legalize this election?

What will the ramifications be to the rest of the country?

You guys are a bunch of stoners, put on those thinking caps, the one where your thoughts drift and let's have a discussion.

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Good topic Headsup. LEGALIZE and someone needs to whack the marlboro man. I have a anti hipocracy sensor somewheres in my brain that tells me that the powers that be are making to much bread housing us peacful fun loving pot smokers in there privately owned/operated prisons. Its an easy business as far as the wealthy fuck who invests the capitol to build an all MASONRY filing cabinet. I know ive been in and worked on prisons. Its easy money for the discreet owners porobably people you wouldnt imagine. Its sickening. But until the balance equalibrium of the retards who run this country get there pockets fat will it happen. I dont want to knock americans but our system is so corrupt from top to bottom. I see it everyday where im from. This senator charged for corrution that gov messing with dope and hookers. WTF. My views are a bit un patriotic when it comes to our authority and bully attitude. We need some real people to step into power and leave the old politics behind. You all know what i mean. My brother in law is now the senator becasue i said so type shit. Voting is all a sham. They pick who they want to run the country then put on the election horse any pony show to make peeps belive they have a choice. With the touch of a button some guy can change the ballot count and there you have it.

Now what & How the fuck do the people the land of the supposed land of the free deal with that. I told yall im coming straight from the heart with this here. Its my view on the world i know. Im open to critisizm. Does any one else see whats going on out there...?

For instance. Just something thats been on my mind for a while and its probably controversial. Mexico and the crackdown on drug trafficking. Why all the sudden is it a huge problem. Ive personally seen greyhound bus stations along the mexican border where they openly sell cocaine meth heroin right in front of security. Now that our silver tounged pres is in office mexico is all the sudden tired of the huge traffickers it has breed and I believe its our gov pressuring the whole mess. Just like they did to canada. Why? Because our gov wants to take over the drug cartels legalize all drugs eventually and now they have what there after. Our $$$ and the industries that house offenders and treat addictions like the ones the judge orders you to will still be thriving and then some. My 3rd eye can see it coming. They know that the war on drugs is a loosing battle. They just have to ever so slowly shut down the source points and assume the role of the supplier. IE big business like Phillip Morris and the pukes behind it all. The wealthy make the rules and most are black hearted crooks. Karma will get em and it seems it will prevail. Like marc emery said the grave is taking care of those type of closed minded people.

Im not looking to open a can of worms its just my point of view. Id sure like to here all of yours.


A load off the masonmans back. Hope i didnt offend anyones patriotic views. Just my interpretation of the world I see.

And just to set a good mood now after my rant. A nice bowl off white widow topped with some heavy hash, mmmm.

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In a perfect world it should have never been prohibited in the first place. Hoping you all feel me.

notoriousb said:

being a California native, I must say that its going to fuck everything up.
Marlboro's going to flood the market with pre-rolled corporate crap joints dropping the price of bud altogether because of the huge supply which will then take money out of the pockets of the real growers who will then be taxed to hell just for growing it which will then cripple the local economies(grocery stores etc) because the money made through medical pot will be absorbed out of the private economy by the govt through taxes leaving everyone except the govt with more tax money that we all know they are going to blow. doesnt matter how much taxpayers give the govt, theyll keep spending us into massive deficits. fuck legalization, give us decriminalization because the govt is just going to fuck it all up like they always do

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Good point. Its going to be a free for all and the big buis$$$$ will fuck it up.

Heads Up said:

Notorious, you make some good points. Whenever for profits comes to town, quality usually suffers. If they legalize and make the tax for growing too high, it will only keep the indoor growers indoors, it will keep them undercover so the government can't get their fingers into their pie. Just like we do now for any part of the country that doesn't have medical.

However with that said, there is such an industry that could be built around hemp, I still think legalization is the route to take. It may not help individual growers nor the growers in your state but I do think the benefits of such and industry would help the nation as a whole. It would put a lot of people to work.

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I know headsup. A great new opportunity for people to come together and enjoy the peaceful vibes of our culture. It would do a lot of good in the world for sure.

dr green dre said:

Whodat.. Nice bud there bro, you got small hands or are dem nuggets really that big!! smoke ,chill, music & sex thats a good night in..Enjoy

They really BIG nice.

Dst you can count me in,Im good with whatever gets selected..
Anybody heard of Jack the Ripper? space queen x Jacks cleaner. Its some Doja shit, had me an friends couch locked for hours..

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Heard a local talkin of jack the ripper just a few days ago. Curious? going to have to check it out.

jigfresh said:

It just breaks my heart that anyone would want to keep pot illegal. Kills me. Taxes or no taxes. Sad.

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Yes indeed brother Jig. All over the white man thinking it would make the black man a beast and rape women. Or it would make white women EZ and want to fk blacks. Or so the 1930 something view that the gov embrasses yet sees it. Ancient laws already cmon.

Much love peeps 1bmm

notoriousb said:

being a California native, I must say that its going to fuck everything up.
Marlboro's going to flood the market with pre-rolled corporate crap joints dropping the price of bud altogether because of the huge supply which will then take money out of the pockets of the real growers who will then be taxed to hell just for growing it which will then cripple the local economies(grocery stores etc) because the money made through medical pot will be absorbed out of the private economy by the govt through taxes leaving everyone except the govt with more tax money that we all know they are going to blow. doesnt matter how much taxpayers give the govt, theyll keep spending us into massive deficits. fuck legalization, give us decriminalization because the govt is just going to fuck it all up like they always do

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jigfresh said:

It just breaks my heart that anyone would want to keep pot illegal. Kills me. Taxes or no taxes. Sad.

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I see where you are coming from Notorious, but as an Economicst, an advocate of weed legalisation and a great believer in producing things as efficently as possible, and growing fields of MJ is def better than small cupboards, I would tend to side with Jig.
Large industry seems to be able to make fairly decent alcohol for the masses, so why not weed? And in any case, if you are a connissuer, then you will probably want to stay growing your own anyway.....lets face it, where I come from, the majority of people are not smoking top notch herb, they are smoking the equivalent of no label supermarket own brand alcohol....shit people even have to buy weed that has glass and metal shavings thrown in it...would you rather leave the trade to the Gangsters and criminals?...although are govt any better, lol.

Integra21 said:

Here's my harvest pics. Just finished an figured I'd share. Took 7 hours for 3 people to trim. The buds are the most dense I've ever grown. Solid as rocks. I ended up with almost a full 13gal garbage bag full of leaf trim and I am cutting down all of the lower growth in a few days and will make more hash with it and the leaf trim. From past experiance it looks to be around the same amount of herb(roughly a pound) and I should get about 2.5oz of hash from all the trim and popcorn buds. Keep in mind this is only the Piss harvest(half the room). The Blue Kush will be harvested in about 4 weeks.

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Aaaaah, some light hearted ganja relief, thanks Integra!!!!

1BMM, I dig your views, there is a lot of weight to them for sure parts!! The World sure is a fukked up place controled by eilte people who don't want to loose that control...simple as that.

surgedup, welcome to the 600, we look forward to seeing what you do. As far as how many plants, depends on how you grow them. I guess with autos they are straight into the ground and off they go...But I would say a 600w is going to have a fotoprint of about +1metre squared 3-4foot squared. So whatever you decide to fit in their. Some say 10 is optimum, some who go for sea of green would put in 20-30...so many ways to string a cat.....

Happy Monday peoples, catch up with you all soon,

Peace, DST

anyone else try to grab those buds out their monitor!? killin it as usual integra!

Integra, take you stinkin' toys and go home, we don't care...but before you leave, could you leave a toy or two behind for us to play with? Beautiful bud, bud. Don't you and genuity get tired of growing perfect grows? I've watched enough, my next grow is going to be a scrog. A sativa scrog.

Well it's final, the last baby has finally showed her sex, she's a girl and she's one of my beans. Looks to me like the end of september the beginning of october for harvest. I hit the above fifty percent mark as far as a male to female ratio. I seem to have very good luck when it comes to getting females from seed.

I did don, hurt my stubby fingers too grr. Im kinda leaning towards decrimilizing weed as aposed to leagalising it. I jus dont trust the govenment, cuz the ppl seen to be in control are being controled.

Masonman, after watching Katrina roll through the gulf states and the response from our government, what's to like about our system any longer? We have become pawns, cash cows for the government and a target for big business to exploit. As DST said, the world is run by the elite and they will not give up that power easily. The way I see it, it's only a matter of time until weed finally becomes legal. With fourteen states having medical, it's only a matter of time. When I speak of the hemp industry, I'm not talking bud, I'm talking hemp, industrial hemp. Hemp to make clothing, feed for animals, rope, sails, that sort of stuff. Maybe even some ethanol? We need some changes in this here country of ours. We are at the edge of the future but there are so many people stuck in 'traditional america' they don't want change. The future is here, we either embrace it, or we head down the path to stagnation. The status quo never wants change, it upsets their apple cart. It's always left to the young to bring change. Protests about civil rights, protests about the vietnam war and even protests about working conditions. If those in charge have their way, things will not change, HOWEVER, one thing I've learned about life, the only constant is change.

well lads its been a long time coming but im back in the game. i hummed and ha'd over whether to post my babies but when it boils down to it my narcissism won out.



general mix up half n half serious seeds bubblegum and cherry cheese. couple of livers cuts in there too wont post again till ive got something to show off. compete with the big boys haha

Don Gin and Ton said:

well lads its been a long time coming but im back in the game. i hummed and ha'd over whether to post my babies but when it boils down to it my narcissism won out.

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general mix up half n half serious seeds bubblegum and cherry cheese. couple of livers cuts in there too wont post again till ive got something to show off. compete with the big boys haha

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about time...lol

integra-integra-integra
real nice....

genuity said:

about time...lol

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ive missed it from the second i packed the tent up man haha

Don Gin and Ton said:

well lads its been a long time coming but im back in the game. i hummed and ha'd over whether to post my babies but when it boils down to it my narcissism won out.

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general mix up half n half serious seeds bubblegum and cherry cheese. couple of livers cuts in there too wont post again till ive got something to show off. compete with the big boys haha

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Eh up, Don's got his swerve on again....nice.