Coco Growers Unite!
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gr865
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I posted some pics a while back of this bucket that I am considering using for my next project. Since I did not follow through with the post I am starting again. I would really like some good honest opinions or hell even lies, LOL, about what you think. Ideas of course are more than welcome, I want this to be successful.
With it sitting on the three wheel dolly I should be able to rotate the container regularly to increase the light penetration into the canopy.
This container is 21" in diameter and almost 10" deep or 13.5 gallons. This will be a Hempy bucket style grow and by putting the drain hole at two inches gives me a about a 3 gallon reservoir and 7 inches of mix, I plan on using 70% coco, 25% Perlite and 5 percent worm casting. If it has to be move from the cabinet the weight will be tolerable.
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I want to grow these 7 Black Widow clones in there. May send a few to a friend so grow 4 in the new bucket. That would be about three gallons per plant. I will start flower in a few week using the SS 400 LED and keep the mothers under the T5's. the clones have surprisingly taken off after I spilled all seven clones when the table collapsed the other day.
Ok, What can I do to improve, is this a bad idea, should I just stick to smaller buckets? At some point when I get enough 3 lb Folgers coffee containers, G/F gathers them from work, I would like to do a SOG. I guess this would be considered a sort of SOG.
GR
With it sitting on the three wheel dolly I should be able to rotate the container regularly to increase the light penetration into the canopy.This container is 21" in diameter and almost 10" deep or 13.5 gallons. This will be a Hempy bucket style grow and by putting the drain hole at two inches gives me a about a 3 gallon reservoir and 7 inches of mix, I plan on using 70% coco, 25% Perlite and 5 percent worm casting. If it has to be move from the cabinet the weight will be tolerable.
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I want to grow these 7 Black Widow clones in there. May send a few to a friend so grow 4 in the new bucket. That would be about three gallons per plant. I will start flower in a few week using the SS 400 LED and keep the mothers under the T5's. the clones have surprisingly taken off after I spilled all seven clones when the table collapsed the other day.Ok, What can I do to improve, is this a bad idea, should I just stick to smaller buckets? At some point when I get enough 3 lb Folgers coffee containers, G/F gathers them from work, I would like to do a SOG. I guess this would be considered a sort of SOG.
GR
gr865
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Day 35 of 12/12, 35 +/- days remaining.
Things are just moving right along, knock on wood but they are just doing great. So far it is such an easy strain to grow, and it's beginning to look fantastic. Buds are a little airy, but that is expected for a bit longer then they are said to fatten up considerably. Stretched more than I expected, but still ok for the cabinet.
Here are a few pics.
First three are BW5
Overall plant height from soil line is 30" with two cola at 31" and thats with them bent outward.
BW1
28" with two at 29"
Here are some clones, four of #1 & Three of #5, they were taken when I top the Mainlined plants for the 8 cola
I put them in the bigger container (13.5 gallon) that was set up Hempy with 70/10/10/10 coco/perlite/damn I can't remember the name of the other material/worm castings.
The material I can't remember was given to me by my hydro shop guy, full bag, said it's to use instead of perlite, I will look it up tomorrow. I mixed it half and half with course perlite.
It was cool to do and looks bitching, but once I watered it and tried to lift it, I said to myself, this shit ain't gonna work.
So today I sat about doing what I know how to do and set this up. My good ol' 2 gallon Lowe's buckets. I did set them up with the 70/20/10 mix, was able to salvage 95% from the big container. These will veg and get healthy till next week when I am going 12/12, that will give them about a five week start when the others come out of the cabinet. I will be flowering them under my SS400 during that period then move them into the HPS cabinet.
The two plants to the right of the Hempy's are the mother plants of 1 & 5, grown in standard 4 inch pots, straight coco. Going to transplant next week into two gallon smart pots, coco.
CYA later,
Things are just moving right along, knock on wood but they are just doing great. So far it is such an easy strain to grow, and it's beginning to look fantastic. Buds are a little airy, but that is expected for a bit longer then they are said to fatten up considerably. Stretched more than I expected, but still ok for the cabinet.
Here are a few pics.
First three are BW5
Overall plant height from soil line is 30" with two cola at 31" and thats with them bent outward.
BW1
28" with two at 29"
Here are some clones, four of #1 & Three of #5, they were taken when I top the Mainlined plants for the 8 cola
I put them in the bigger container (13.5 gallon) that was set up Hempy with 70/10/10/10 coco/perlite/damn I can't remember the name of the other material/worm castings.
The material I can't remember was given to me by my hydro shop guy, full bag, said it's to use instead of perlite, I will look it up tomorrow. I mixed it half and half with course perlite.
It was cool to do and looks bitching, but once I watered it and tried to lift it, I said to myself, this shit ain't gonna work.
So today I sat about doing what I know how to do and set this up. My good ol' 2 gallon Lowe's buckets. I did set them up with the 70/20/10 mix, was able to salvage 95% from the big container. These will veg and get healthy till next week when I am going 12/12, that will give them about a five week start when the others come out of the cabinet. I will be flowering them under my SS400 during that period then move them into the HPS cabinet.
The two plants to the right of the Hempy's are the mother plants of 1 & 5, grown in standard 4 inch pots, straight coco. Going to transplant next week into two gallon smart pots, coco.
CYA later,
buzworthy
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Atm everything in my tent got switched over to coco cept those red buckets. I am running a slew of different strains cant wait to see the end product. I am using botanicares cocogro with house and gardens coco a+b 1 gallon pots with a 600w cooled hood. White buckets are 2 weeks
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sky rocket
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Looking good flash . Yeah I run canna nutes and canna coco but my soiless medium (vermiculite perlite ) I run h&g. Can't go wrong with either.
Flash63
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I have used both with good results,H&G gives me a better yield with same quality....
tightpockt
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Why use molasses in coco?
Sagethisplanet
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Molass s is a cargo to boost sugar extract so don't see reason can't use in coco,,,,, Known it to be organic helper in flower and sweetener. Is it bad to use molasses in coco? Cause the salt? Never heard.... Please expand on
JimmyIndica
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Day 44 Cocogro/perlite with Botanicare expert Coco schedule - 2 strawberry banana,Gummy Bears,Honey Bananas Under 2 Area51 RW150s and Kind K5750 740 watts from wall. Smells like Grapes,Skittles, Sweet Banana! in here!
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Sagethisplanet
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Why not a MH for veg? Yea looked rad in the big container, I can't see that being good for the roots, correct? Get all mangled and rot would occur prolly. What was the reason that you sowed them like that anyhow? Just curious......always looking to learn....Day 35 of 12/12, 35 +/- days remaining.
Things are just moving right along, knock on wood but they are just doing great. So far it is such an easy strain to grow, and it's beginning to look fantastic. Buds are a little airy, but that is expected for a bit longer then they are said to fatten up considerably. Stretched more than I expected, but still ok for the cabinet.
Here are a few pics.
First three are BW5
Overall plant height from soil line is 30" with two cola at 31" and thats with them bent outward.
BW1
28" with two at 29"
Here are some clones, four of #1 & Three of #5, they were taken when I top the Mainlined plants for the 8 cola
I put them in the bigger container (13.5 gallon) that was set up Hempy with 70/10/10/10 coco/perlite/damn I can't remember the name of the other material/worm castings.
The material I can't remember was given to me by my hydro shop guy, full bag, said it's to use instead of perlite, I will look it up tomorrow. I mixed it half and half with course perlite.
It was cool to do and looks bitching, but once I watered it and tried to lift it, I said to myself, this shit ain't gonna work.
So today I sat about doing what I know how to do and set this up. My good ol' 2 gallon Lowe's buckets. I did set them up with the 70/20/10 mix, was able to salvage 95% from the big container. These will veg and get healthy till next week when I am going 12/12, that will give them about a five week start when the others come out of the cabinet. I will be flowering them under my SS400 during that period then move them into the HPS cabinet.
The two plants to the right of the Hempy's are the mother plants of 1 & 5, grown in standard 4 inch pots, straight coco. Going to transplant next week into two gallon smart pots, coco.
CYA later,
Thanks
Sagethisplanet
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Are you using the botanicare pure? How do you like it as a base? Was thinking of going to that, the pure is just "organic". Botniare has stepped up the game and are using premium ingredients.
Sagethisplanet
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excuse my lack of knowledge of Internet terms, what. The bump all about,p what is the point and how do yu do it?
Sagethisplanet
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Looking nice man
Sagethisplanet
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Used the house and G full line for many a harvest. Always great results. That was before the N additive and the amino treatment. Just watch for cal/mat def, plant amp goes well for that line if need be
OGEvilgenius
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Funny there's a Black Widow post here.
It's Black Widow which has caused me to try out organic cocoa growing. I had my best results growing her with chemicals in coco. Tried her in RLOS. It was a 3 gallon container. It only did so so and I wound up having to feed it anyway with organic bottles.
I have an approximately 3x1 1/2ft clear plastic storage container (18" depth maybe?). I have 10 1 gallon smart pots in there filled with coco. I've been watering so there's a couple inches the pots rest in and I have bubblers going in that water to keep it oxygenated....
Anyway suffice to say the plants seem to love it.
I'm planning on filling up a light with these containers to get a SOG style going. Will help make better use of the veg space I have. First one going under 12/12 very soon.
To do SOG properly you need good cloning skills... I feel mine have been pretty on point lately. My hope is I will be able to get away with reasonably sized clones vegged a week and pull down around an ounce a plant. Mind you I grow mostly sativas that stretch and flower for a while. Black Widow being one of my favorites. I see a few phenotypes shaping up much like my favorite in the post above as far as structure goes. Can be very paranoia inducing. Beware. There are other strong hybrid phenos too. The indica is mellow but I really did not enjoy it.
I was just wondering what organic lineups people are using.
I've seen people record very high brix levels using Cannas lineup - which is extremely well put together - but also insanely expensive and it just doesn't seem worth it.
I have General Organics, Canna, AN and botanicare readily available as well as some locally made stuff. I have been running botanicare grow, hydrozyme (it really works!), general organics calmag (low in N... kinda weak in general though) with some epsom salts every now and then and a bit of humic acid (basically just using it up as I had an old bottle kicking around from chemical days).
I'm using around 80% coco 10% worm castings and 10% perlite. Will be reusing constantly - hoping to eventually have a killer RLOS base after a few years - my watering will have to change but I think it will eventually get there if I keep at it. Rocking Canna coco. Have some great locally made brick though that I found by a local grower here that is about 1/4 the price and similar quality.
TL/DR
What organic lineup are you rocking with your coco?
It's Black Widow which has caused me to try out organic cocoa growing. I had my best results growing her with chemicals in coco. Tried her in RLOS. It was a 3 gallon container. It only did so so and I wound up having to feed it anyway with organic bottles.
I have an approximately 3x1 1/2ft clear plastic storage container (18" depth maybe?). I have 10 1 gallon smart pots in there filled with coco. I've been watering so there's a couple inches the pots rest in and I have bubblers going in that water to keep it oxygenated....
Anyway suffice to say the plants seem to love it.
I'm planning on filling up a light with these containers to get a SOG style going. Will help make better use of the veg space I have. First one going under 12/12 very soon.
To do SOG properly you need good cloning skills... I feel mine have been pretty on point lately. My hope is I will be able to get away with reasonably sized clones vegged a week and pull down around an ounce a plant. Mind you I grow mostly sativas that stretch and flower for a while. Black Widow being one of my favorites. I see a few phenotypes shaping up much like my favorite in the post above as far as structure goes. Can be very paranoia inducing. Beware. There are other strong hybrid phenos too. The indica is mellow but I really did not enjoy it.
I was just wondering what organic lineups people are using.
I've seen people record very high brix levels using Cannas lineup - which is extremely well put together - but also insanely expensive and it just doesn't seem worth it.
I have General Organics, Canna, AN and botanicare readily available as well as some locally made stuff. I have been running botanicare grow, hydrozyme (it really works!), general organics calmag (low in N... kinda weak in general though) with some epsom salts every now and then and a bit of humic acid (basically just using it up as I had an old bottle kicking around from chemical days).
I'm using around 80% coco 10% worm castings and 10% perlite. Will be reusing constantly - hoping to eventually have a killer RLOS base after a few years - my watering will have to change but I think it will eventually get there if I keep at it. Rocking Canna coco. Have some great locally made brick though that I found by a local grower here that is about 1/4 the price and similar quality.
TL/DR
What organic lineup are you rocking with your coco?
Sagethisplanet
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Botni
Sagethisplanet
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Canna,now , switching to botanicare pure as a base, then additives so can just se water to feed, that's the goal. It's how the plant wants t eat, so what not let her eat as she wants? I think using hem nutes is wild and taste terrible, esp the way ppl trim, or use machines right on do so. What happened to the days that trimming wasn't a bummer, but a great day? I'd like to see them days back again. Would be great.