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Red1966

Red1966

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ChesusRice said:
Voucher schools perform as good as or worse than public schools.
Add in to that the Republican wish that they not be accountable at all and voucher schools end up being a pay off to private corporations and religious schools.
Voucher schools are just another way to destroy education.
Smart people who are middle class don't vote republican
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The "private corporations" you speak of are mostly dissatisfied parents joining together to improve their children's future. People who are regularly made fools of here on RIU don't vote Republican. Not what anyone would call "smart".
 
Red1966

Red1966

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NLXSK1 said:
You have yet to suggest a solution to kids that graduate but cannot read at a 5th grade level. Why do you hate poor minority kids so much??

Their parents are demanding alternatives and I would be happy to allow them to try something rather than have their kids get denied an education RIGHT NOW... This isnt something that can be solved in 10 years, kids are losing out today.

So, what is your solution cheesy???


Kids in the 1800's knew a crapload more than the kids we put out today and they were learning in conditions without even electricity. What changed between then and now? Teachers unions and government.
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And electricity. Electricity must be the cause of the decline.
 
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ChesusRice

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Red1966 said:
The "private corporations" you speak of are mostly dissatisfied parents joining together to improve their children's future. People who are regularly made fools of here on RIU don't vote Republican. Not what anyone would call "smart".
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Can you provide a citation for that?
Of course not. Just more shit you've made up
 
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spandy

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SnapsProvolone said:
Sucks that urban life doesn't encourage outdoor activities as country life does
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Yeah, with all those parks, sports fields, pools, race tracks, etc, I totally can see why urbanites stay inside their homes and the country folk, with all their dirt and rocks, stay outside to play.

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Doer

Doer

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spandy said:
Yeah, with all those parks, sports fields, pools, race tracks, etc, I totally can see why urbanites stay inside their homes and the country folk, with all their dirt and rocks, stay outside to play.
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No broadband in the Country...yet. All soon to change.
 
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ChesusRice

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Red1966 said:
You say that, but then continue to do so. So you can't cite anything other than your own bullshit?
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http://www.jsonline.com/news/education/118820339.html
Students in Milwaukee's school choice program performed worse than or about the same as students in Milwaukee Public Schools in math and reading on the latest statewide test, according to results released Tuesday that provided the first apples-to-apples achievement comparison between public and individual voucher schools.
The scores released by the state Department of Public Instruction cast a shadow on the overall quality of the 21-year-old Milwaukee Parental Choice Program, which was intended to improve results for poor city children in failing public schools by allowing them to attend higher-performing private schools with publicly funded vouchers. The scores also raise concerns about Gov. Scott Walker's proposal to roll back the mandate that voucher schools participate in the current state test.
 
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ChesusRice

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Red1966 said:
You say that, but then continue to do so. So you can't cite anything other than your own bullshit?
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In Milwaukee, just 13 percent of voucher students scored proficient in math and 11 percent made the bar in reading this spring. That’s worse on both counts than students in the city’s public schools. In Cleveland, voucher students in most grades performed worse than their peers in public schools in math, though they did better in reading.
In New Orleans, voucher students who struggle academically haven’t advanced to grade-level work any faster over the past two years than students in the public schools, many of which are rated D or F, state data show.
And across Louisiana, many of the most popular private schools for voucher students posted miserable scores in math, reading, science and social studies this spring, with fewer than half their voucher students achieving even basic proficiency and fewer than 2 percent demonstrating mastery. Seven schools did so badly, state Superintendent John White barred them from accepting new voucher students — though the state agreed to keep paying tuition for the more than 200 voucher students already enrolled, if they chose to stay.
Nationwide, many schools participating in voucher programs infuse religion through their curriculum. Zack Kopplin, a student activist who favors rigorous science education, has found more than 300 voucher schools across the U.S. that teach the Biblical story of creation as science; some also instruct children that the world is just several thousand years old and use textbooks describing the Loch Ness Monster as a living dinosaur. Parents at one such school in Louisiana received a newsletter calling secular scientists “sinful men.”


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/vouchers-dont-do-much-for-students-97909.html#ixzz3PrCZb9lY
 
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Doer

Doer

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spandy said:
Lifestyle begets life activities.

Doesn't matter how fast they make it, it still wont operate a shovel or feed the livestock for me.
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I knew a guy in college, my room mate. Big guy with a cowboy hat. He'd say, "I gotta get some exercise!" Now, in those days, I never thought like that.

I'd find him over on the side of the house, digging post holes. !!!

I dream of my roots of hay mow and livestock feed, but, now I just swing the kettlebells.

I got myself an 80 pounder for Christmas.... :) So, now I have 36#, 53# and 80. It's a process.
 
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