Controlled Environment Agriculture by Shrubs

jesushadafender said:

So glad my genetics are rocking for you dude. Lovely detailed log of all the escapades around. Setup at the warehouse is looking far nicer bro, Ill make it in there before I take off, or try anyway. Everything looks on point, Im impressed. You will have buds easily as large as your arms with those flower clusters forming nice, neat, THC glazed colas - Clearwater Genetics-

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Haha, ya for sure, well if you get a chance to make it up tomorrow. Dont hesitate.

The warehouse veg room is coming along. The whole place is just
So dirty, i feel like i need to clean everytime im there. I really just
Need to take it one project/day at a time and it will eventually be how
I need it to be.

Anyways, i put together the shelf and attached the T5's to it, and its ready
To hold some transitional clones until their ready to veg under halides. Each
Tray can hold 70.

Repotted my 4SD's and popped em in to flower, theyre all 10-11 inches,
And i figure if their anything like my current chem sour diesels theyll probaby
End up around 36-40 inches.

All 8 had roots identical to this. Based on root systems they are ready to blast off!!




Blast off

The Chem Sour Diesels (CSD's) are on week 4 day 5, and looking so healthy!
The nug structure looks nice, and the trichome production hasn't been slacking either.











They're movin along mighty fine.

Holy shit!!!! Subbed!

Sub Zero said:

Holy shit!!!! Subbed!

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Nice to have you, big things are on the horizon

Fed the office room today

16 gallons water
8 mL / gal Coco A
8 mL / gal Coco B
4 mL / gal Cannazyme
4 mL / gal Hygrozyme
2 mL / gal Mayan Microzyme
12 mL / gal CannaBoost
4 mL / gal Rhizotonic
3 mL / gal Ginormous

EC 1.5, pH 6.0, teml 64F

Looking great, man! Just to throw this out there cause I noticed it ya usin all those enzyme supplements: hydro owner friend tested Hygrozyme, Cannazym, and Sensizyme side-by-side using Coco and found that Cannazym worked best, even though it has less enzyms than Sensizyme.

LiveHigh said:

Looking great, man! Just to throw this out there cause I noticed it ya usin all those enzyme supplements: hydro owner friend tested Hygrozyme, Cannazym, and Sensizyme side-by-side using Coco and found that Cannazym worked best, even though it has less enzyms than Sensizyme.

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Interesting, Ralph B. the Canna Rep of North America told me Canna had better results using Hygrozyme
at a 50/50 ratio with Cannazyme. Hygrozyme is the professionals choice, definitely the most concentrated
and unique cleaning agent out there.

Not shootin you down or anything, but Im goin with Canna and my past results.

Shrubs First said:

Interesting, Ralph B. the Canna Rep of North America told me Canna had better results using Hygrozyme
at a 50/50 ratio with Cannazyme. Hygrozyme is the professionals choice, definitely the most concentrated
and unique cleaning agent out there.

Not shootin you down or anything, but Im goin with Canna and my past results.

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Don't gotta worry about shootin me down, bro. I'm confident with what I use and have had fantastic results, so was just tellin' ya what I heard to make me use it. If you wanna use three diff enzyme supplements, go for it

Mayan microzyme is a bacterial complex, innoculate my friend.
What does your hydro store owner friend use for his beneficial microbes and
mycorrhizae? How bout his Fulvic acid supplement what else did he side by side?

No offense, but if I thought a different product would be superior to another I would
most likely incorporate it into my feeding schedule. Its my job, i see and observe products in use.
There are many dispensaries with many operations, many of which don't grow the same or think
they have the secret key to enducing the plant to flower harder or faster or whatever other bogus
Info they've been fed.

Most of these grows are sub par, such as the grow i stepped into and am now working my ass off to
get back in to an efficient and healthy growing environment. They focus too much on these gimmicks and the big picture really evaporates.

Honestly i guess what I'm really sayin is apply your knowledge to your style and growing method, but your style and mine are not the same.

Cannazyme is an light enzymatic formula, not a high enzyme count, but it is also a PK supplement.

Hygrozyme is a heavy enzymatic formula, containing an innumerable count. I've never seen a count on the enzymes contained in Hygrozyme, and its expensive as hell to get a count.

Both of these products contain no microorganisms and no bacteria, they are meant for sterile environments as well as non sterile.

Mayan microzyme is a bacterial enzymatic complex containing a very high CFU count of several bacterias which as we all know help break down and digest the heavier nutes which our fertilizers contain. Without bacterias in the rhizome organics doesnt work.

Smoke a joint and relax, bro.
I'm not telling you this shit because I think I'm a better grower than you or that you're doing anything wrong. I'm just giving you information I've been given, that I've had success with, so you can do what you want with - even if it's nothing.

I can tell you're someone who feels very accomplished in growing and would rather give info than receive it, so I'll let you do your thing.

To answer your question, though, we use Canna A/B, Rhizotonic, Cannazym, and Roots Organic Oregonism for veg. And have amazing roots and vegetative growth. That's the only reason why I suggested it, thought who would want to buy more products than they need?

quick question.. What exactly is your business and how is a 24,000 watt grow legal? (not familiar with CO laws).

LiveHigh said:

Smoke a joint and relax, bro.
I'm not telling you this shit because I think I'm a better grower than you or that you're doing anything wrong. I'm just giving you information I've been given, that I've had success with, so you can do what you want with - even if it's nothing.

I can tell you're someone who feels very accomplished in growing and would rather give info than receive it, so I'll let you do your thing.

To answer your question, though, we use Canna A/B, Rhizotonic, Cannazym, and Roots Organic Oregonism for veg. And have amazing roots and vegetative growth. That's the only reason why I suggested it, thought who would want to buy more products than they need?

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Observant, I like that. Oregonism isn't concentrated enough IMO. And really you havent given any "info" you've knit picked and told me what products your hydro store owning friend had success
With in side by sides which is hardly from a Hort textbook. They're products... Does your hydro store owning friend wipe his ass with charmin or puffs? Thats about as relevant.

anomolies said:

quick question.. What exactly is your business and how is a 24,000 watt grow legal? (not familiar with CO laws).

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I have 60 patients and can grow 360 plants.. I supply a dispensary with 70% of their herb. Its legal because i have the patients and a sales tax license.

For sure. I can even tell after I read my posts that they come off a little wrong. Your plants look great, and you obviously know your shit. I think my hydro guy wipes his ass with bud leaves, but I'm not sure

Shrubs First said:

I have 60 patients and can grow 360 plants.. I supply a dispensary with 70% of their herb. Its legal because i have the patients and a sales tax license.

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ah, i was reading through first few pages and didn't see you mention that. That's pretty insane though.

Is it easy to setup a legal grow op like that in CO or do you have to go through a lot of paperwork bullshit and license fees?

anomolies said:

ah, i was reading through first few pages and didn't see you mention that. That's pretty insane though.

Is it easy to setup a legal grow op like that in CO or do you have to go through a lot of paperwork bullshit and license fees?

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Haha, ya a lot has changed since the first few pages..

Well, the state has a moratorium on new dispensaries and grow operations until july 31st
2011, so nothong new can be started til then and no one will know if theyre even
Approved until then. Sooo ya. Limbo to the max, but we have all our applications in, background checks are done,
We've inspectors checking our numbers, equipment, electrical, fire safety, HVAC, blah blah..

Im basically a horticultural engineer with the variety of work im performing.

LiveHigh said:

For sure. I can even tell after I read my posts that they come off a little wrong. Your plants look great, and you obviously know your shit. I think my hydro guy wipes his ass with bud leaves, but I'm not sure

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Peace man, you've got nice plants and a good looking grow,
I'l enjoy checking on it, as im sure you'll enjoy checking mine

Definitely. If you got any spider mite advice, i'm all ears btw Little fuckers are driving me nuts. Tried making an SNS for em. Tried a different product named omnicide. Foggered the room. And just put up Hot Shot No-Pest strips. And I still don't think I'm rid of them yet.

edit: oops, forgot I've tried ladybugs too. The omnicide definitely helped and the ladybugs help. It just seems like I knocked them back down to when they first started, but not gone.