TrynaGroSumShyt
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lots of pretty pics, nice line up too.
Controlled Environment Agriculture by Shrubs
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purrrrple
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Yeah I guess if it ain't broke don't fix it. I have tried it all AN, GH, FF, HG, CashCrop, Bloom and really nothing compares with Canna. Good stuff. The price on the Boost just kills me man. Hard pill to swallow and I still wonder if it is worth the expense. Have you ever run w/o it? I didn't see a REALLY significant difference the one time I ran w/o it.
Yeh, Van De Zwaan is responsible for both brands. Gotta tip my hat to him, smart man. Obviously your happy with your regimen but the RE, Drip Clean and Shooting powder are nothing to scoff at. Wonder how it would work adding the SP to Canna? hmmm....
You totally turned my whole idea of how reflectors work upside down with that explanation a few pages back btw. It would seem obvious that the larger the reflector, the larger the spread but in fact just the opposite. I'll be damned. Daystars or SuperSun II's are great reflectors. Any experience or thoughts on the Magnums or Blockbusters? Have seen/heard wonderful things.
All in all, nice work man. Clean, efficient, well thought out room. I love the attention to quality and detail. Your doing God's work and doing it well! Congrats man, best wishes & keep it up!
Shrubs First
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I ran my first 4 grows of CANNA subbing out other Carbo products, I've used Sweet as well
as Humboldt Honey (hydro and ES). When I began using BOOST my yields increased quite
dramatically. I didn't see any larger nugs, or any more growth so to speak, but my density
was highly altered. Just about doubled my yield.
I add a couple things to CANNA's line from other manufacturers as well, Azamax, Mayan Microzyme,
Hygrozyme, Budswel BG. And I'll be using Drip Clean when everything at the warehouse is on
a drip system.
Yea, reflectors are iffy. Check it, I see those new reflectors as complete wastes of money. Why hadn't
they ever been developed in the past 30+ years of indoor agriculture? Because they are inefficient, the
goal of having a reflector on your Bulb is to direct the light down. Obviously, due to the inverse square law
you want your light to spend as little time within the hood as possible. With classic reflectors (Daystar AC)
you achieve this with perfectly sized reflectors which fit your bulbs like a jacket and throws light directly.
I envision a pinball machine style light movement within the Magnum and Blockbuster hoods. The light leaves
the bulb, has to travel damn near 2 feet to reach the hood, and THEN is reflected down to the plants. By the time
this happens you have probably already lost a significant portion of your light. These hoods were designed with
the new growing industry in mind. Many of these commercial growers are completely uneducated in the field of
horticulture and can't be expected to understand the physiological properties of light waves. Competition between
reflector manufacturers has caused this hype to be placed upon these "new" style of hoods, when in all actuality
they are not proven to be any more effective and in theory are less effective. PLUS they are a third more expensive.
You're just paying for more metal and more glass, why would those extra materials increase production?
Those are my thoughts on these new hoods.
My guess is they put out a prototype or advertised as having the biggest reflectors
in the industry and watched to see how people reacted. Most growers in our industry
began drooling and immediately said "I GOTTA HAVE ONE!" Bingo time to make some money.
I have yet to see any other indoor agricultural cultivator utilizing these hoods and I've
been to Cargill operations, Cisco operations, Koch Industries etc. these companies
grow and supply food for the majority of the people in the world. The most commonly
used hoods I've seen are the HydroFarm GLX Commercial Greenhouse reflectors, which
were developed in the 80's and from which the Daystars were designed.
TrynaGroSumShyt
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ever tried Gravity for density? it works well too.
Shrubs First
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Week 3 day 7
eyecandi
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looking great! looks like they get a bit of a stretch, but little foliage to block the lowers much (i have a Bang that grows like her, I space her between the leafy skunks to get better penetration for them). does stretch stop for them soon, or do you anticipate this run to overgrow? (from the angle looks like @ 2' vertical left?)
what a great day to be at the warehouse eh? (love a 7day a week job, LOL ... sry ..... small sarcasm) crappy drive in for me ... not looking forward to the drive home
what a great day to be at the warehouse eh? (love a 7day a week job, LOL ... sry ..... small sarcasm) crappy drive in for me ... not looking forward to the drive home
Shrubs First
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Chem Sour Diesels about 40 inches tall and are around 30 inches from the glass, stretch will continue over
the next week and will cease by week 5. The Slippers and Ogers maxed at 30-32 inches, and are about
40 inches from the glass.
My drive to the warehouse is very convenient, about 7 minutes. Nice little blizzard we have here though.
the next week and will cease by week 5. The Slippers and Ogers maxed at 30-32 inches, and are about
40 inches from the glass.
My drive to the warehouse is very convenient, about 7 minutes. Nice little blizzard we have here though.
xivex
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Chem Sour Diesels about 40 inches tall and are around 30 inches from the glass, stretch will continue over
the next week and will cease by week 5. The Slippers and Ogers maxed at 30-32 inches, and are about
40 inches from the glass.
My drive to the warehouse is very convenient, about 7 minutes. Nice little blizzard we have here though.
I love the CSDs, so tasty looking!
MMMmmmmm....love the "Oger" name also, classic! I'm getting the fallout from your blizzard over there Shrubs!
Getting cold and wet/icy rainy here right now I'm staying inside!!!
rastadred22
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they lookin real nice! ay are u using the screen for more of a support for when they fatten up.. or are u using it for a true scrog?
Shrubs First
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It wouldn't be a very good ScrOG if I were. No man, it is for support only. With a well done ScrOG
you want the plants to be vegging under the screen and causing a vine like growth until you flower
and only allow buds to pop through. And you use much smaller holes, 2x2 or something, not 5x5.
Indefinately
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Hey Shrubs,
How high up from the top of the pot is the screen?
How high up from the top of the pot is the screen?
rastadred22
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yea thats what i figured...i guess thatll be alot better than individually tying buds up
Shrubs First
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36 Inches from the pot to trellis net, 36 inches from trellis net to glass.
djdestroyer
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You're a badass grower and I love what you're doing so don't take these questions personally but:
1. Why not hydro? It seems all the professionals prefer it because it is easier, more precise, and produces better yields.
2. You keep estimating 20lbs a month but shouldn't you be getting more like 50lbs a month with 24kw at just under 1GPW?
3. Can I come work for you? I want to fully automate your warehouse and I've never been to Colorado...
1. Why not hydro? It seems all the professionals prefer it because it is easier, more precise, and produces better yields.
2. You keep estimating 20lbs a month but shouldn't you be getting more like 50lbs a month with 24kw at just under 1GPW?
3. Can I come work for you? I want to fully automate your warehouse and I've never been to Colorado...
TrynaGroSumShyt
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u know what. i never wondered why u werent doing hydro, as most people doin it big do. also did u consider an sog before hand?
Shrubs First
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You're a badass grower and I love what you're doing so don't take these questions personally but:
1. Why not hydro? It seems all the professionals prefer it because it is easier, more precise, and produces better yields.
2. You keep estimating 20lbs a month but shouldn't you be getting more like 50lbs a month with 24kw at just under 1GPW?
3. Can I come work for you? I want to fully automate your warehouse and I've never been to Colorado...
1. This is Hydro. Coco is an inert medium which requires a specialty hydroponic solution. The fact
that I top feed by hand means nothing.
2. Do your math again bro. I am perpetual. The goal is 1 gram per watt over the course of TWO months.
With 24kW the goal would be to equal 48lbs every TWO months if i were growing bumper crops. Being
that I'm growing PERPETUALLY, I will be harvesting HALF of my crop ONCE a month or 20ish pounds, I'm
not planning on hitting 1 gram per watt on me first grow here man, I'm actually only planning on hitting about
14-15 this month, which would be 30lbs over the course of two if it were repeated or .75gpw... Question, how would
someone possibly yield their whole crop once per month if it takes two months to flower. Please read more thoroughly.
3. No, it seems you do not quite understand how this all works, my employees need to have a better
attention to detail than what you've shown.
If I wanted it automated, I would automate it.
I guess its a good thing your posts are fictional.
(no hard feelings or aggression, but your post was pretty weak)
Shrubs First
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Plant numbers my friend. This as SoG as I can legally be unless i want to up my patient numbers.
I really wouldng have much room to do the vegging for more than 90 at a time though.
TrynaGroSumShyt
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ohhh, i see. your grow is like a documentary yo! i'm just tryin to learn somethin.
Shrubs First
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You're always welcome here bro. Your grows are informative and your experience obviously shows.
Generally speaking, your questions are quite relevant and I enjoy the thought I put in to answering them.
rfun
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I guess my last post with questions was pretty meaningless to you since you never replied?