cooltube vs batwing

i cant decide between a 400w cool tube or a 600w with a batwing.both come with digital ballasts.the 600w comes with a mh n hps bulb.their both in the same price range.so it boils down to more light n heat or less heat n less light.i dont really have to worry to much about heat n could add a cool tube later on.jus cant decide leaning to the 600.i grow in a closet n could leave the door open n turn the ac up.ne thoughts??????
 
i ordered the 600w wish it was getting here tomorrow.:eyesmoke:thinking about finding a cheap ballast for the mh bulb.would need everything except the bulb.probably cheaper buying another setup n using 1 for hps n the other for the mh.
 

Xan2

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If you can save money, get magnetic ballast and use the saved money for a cooltube for the 600w. Cooltubes are fantastic!
 

GypsyBush

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I use 4x 600s and would never buy a 400 or a 1k unless they quit making 600s...

good choice...:razz:

Will we get to see the grow?, please drop us a link here...:clap::weed:
 

PANGcake

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i cant decide between a 400w cool tube or a 600w with a batwing.both come with digital ballasts.the 600w comes with a mh n hps bulb.their both in the same price range.so it boils down to more light n heat or less heat n less light.i dont really have to worry to much about heat n could add a cool tube later on.jus cant decide leaning to the 600.i grow in a closet n could leave the door open n turn the ac up.ne thoughts??????
If heat isnt a problem I dont really see why u need to even think about it? :mrgreen:

the lumen output ona 600 can double a 400 depending on what bulb u have...my hps bulb "600w" pushes 95000 lumens!
Its true the output is higher, but unless u dont have some kinda "cooling" device u cant hang a 600W close as 12inch as I do w my 400W (I would have had a 600W if I could) but u would get a wider light spread, i.e more plants since hung higher w same lumen "hitting" the plant as w a 400W. Lumens are messured 30cm away from the light source, get my point? ;-)
 

GypsyBush

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If heat isnt a problem I dont really see why u need to even think about it? :mrgreen:



Its true the output is higher, but unless u dont have some kinda "cooling" device u cant hang a 600W close as 12inch as I do w my 400W (I would have had a 600W if I could) but u would get a wider light spread, i.e more plants since hung higher w same lumen "hitting" the plant as w a 400W. Lumens are messured 30cm away from the light source, get my point? ;-)
I disagree with you here...

It's not just a wider light spread...

A 600 has much more intensity of light... even a few inches further, it will still kick a 400 in the butt... everyday...

The ideal thing is to have a 600 in a sealed reflector... then you can have your plants 6" from the bulb... I have had plenty a but grow taller than the others and finish squished up against the glass... no heat issues or burns...:eyesmoke:

Someone suggested going magnectic instead of digi and using the price diff to buy the cooltube... if money is the real issue, I would go that route...:razz:
 

PANGcake

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I disagree with you here...

It's not just a wider light spread...

A 600 has much more intensity of light... even a few inches further, it will still kick a 400 in the butt... everyday...

The ideal thing is to have a 600 in a sealed reflector... then you can have your plants 6" from the bulb... I have had plenty a but grow taller than the others and finish squished up against the glass... no heat issues or burns...:eyesmoke:

Someone suggested going magnectic instead of digi and using the price diff to buy the cooltube... if money is the real issue, I would go that route...:razz:
A 600W would be better than a 400W any given day, I agree, I was just pointing out that u dont "get" 95,000 lumen to your plant w a 600W unless cooled.

I keep my 400W 28cm away from my plants but I sure as hell would love to have them 15cm away from a 600W...it's in the near future. :mrgreen:
 

GypsyBush

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gypsy:i wont be doin a journal this time beein as the light is getting put in at the end of the period for 1 n halfway thru on four.ill post pic in my picture book tho.

gnome:idk bout the dual ballast theyd be in diff areas.it shouldnt get to hot in there ive got a window unit.jis turnin it up is all itd take.

pang:whenever i buy somthin i like to way the pros n cons of my options.

now i saw a dual arc bulb 400w with 110,000 lumens.thoughts on these is appreciated...:dunce:i dont see much info on the forums about these most seem to use either mh or hps exclusively or in combination.
 
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