Could anyone help with estimating how lush this young forest will be come spring?

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Moskau

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For the past few weeks I've been scouting for my first guerrilla grow, until now I've mostly tried to find clearings in thick forests.

Yesterday I was walking around and I walked through this young forest filled with spruces, and saw that the ground was covered in dead ferns. Since ferns love shade, and that the trees are only 4 or 5 feet tall, is it likely that they'll grow back in the spring? And if they won't, will other plants spring up in their place?

Also as a follow-up question, do you guys think it would be a good idea to grow short autos here come spring? The plants would get sunlight almost all day since there's almost no canopy other than a few trees. There are vehicle tracks around 200 feet away, but they're at least a few years old, with plants growing there like nothing had happened. The ground is very bumpy and hard to walk through, though there are only a few thorny plants throughout the area, nothing that'd stop someone who's determined to get through.

Thanks in advance for any advice, please let me know if there's something that stands out to you that I didn't consider.
 

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ganga gurl420

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Just my 2 cents but it looks like a good spot but you are right about ferns. They do like shade so this is spot may be questionable.

Thing that I always consider when picking out a growing spot is how low the sun is during fall. Sometimes its below the tree line and what was once a sunny spot during summer months is now not getting much sunlight at all. Plus the trees in that area doesnt have foliage at the moment so it will be hard to tell when they are in full swing.

It does sound like a good area tho... but how do you plan on getting water to them?

I personally am not a huge fan of autos but they have come a long way. If it was me I would start my plants later and have the site totally prepped if you want shorter plants vs going with autos but that is just me.

Good luck
 
Freedom seed

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That’s grass not ferns. Those baby pine trees were planted there and may be inspected over the season.

Other than that looks about right.

edit: I see the ferns now but not everywhere there. Spots with grass get a lot more light than spots with ferns. Looks pretty open overhead.
 
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Zephyrs

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Moskau said:
For the past few weeks I've been scouting for my first guerrilla grow, until now I've mostly tried to find clearings in thick forests.

Yesterday I was walking around and I walked through this young forest filled with spruces, and saw that the ground was covered in dead ferns. Since ferns love shade, and that the trees are only 4 or 5 feet tall, is it likely that they'll grow back in the spring? And if they won't, will other plants spring up in their place?

Also as a follow-up question, do you guys think it would be a good idea to grow short autos here come spring? The plants would get sunlight almost all day since there's almost no canopy other than a few trees. There are vehicle tracks around 200 feet away, but they're at least a few years old, with plants growing there like nothing had happened. The ground is very bumpy and hard to walk through, though there are only a few thorny plants throughout the area, nothing that'd stop someone who's determined to get through.

Thanks in advance for any advice, please let me know if there's something that stands out to you that I didn't consider.
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I wouldn't put any plants in a spot that clear... My first thought is just because the vehicle tracks are old doesn't mean that a sharp eyed ripper out for a afternoon hike without your knowledge
won't snag a few and trek on. I live way out in the country and seen people hiking out in spots I haven't seen peeps in years. BlackBerry Patches if ya got them in your area are your best bet!!
 
dubekoms

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Is the ground wet and marshy? Ferns like wet soil. Looks like it would be a good spot to setup a few swamp tubes.
 
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Moskau

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Thanks for all the responses!

ganga gurl420 said:
Just my 2 cents but it looks like a good spot but you are right about ferns. They do like shade so this is spot may be questionable.

Thing that I always consider when picking out a growing spot is how low the sun is during fall. Sometimes its below the tree line and what was once a sunny spot during summer months is now not getting much sunlight at all. Plus the trees in that area doesnt have foliage at the moment so it will be hard to tell when they are in full swing.

It does sound like a good area tho... but how do you plan on getting water to them?

I personally am not a huge fan of autos but they have come a long way. If it was me I would start my plants later and have the site totally prepped if you want shorter plants vs going with autos but that is just me.

Good luck
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I didn't consider that the treeline could be a problem, but I should go check out the place again and make sure.

When I was looking around I found a lot of stagnant water inside a 1000-foot area, but it's also a very wet time of year, so that might be temporary. The closest stream that I found is like a quarter mile away, so I really* hope it doesn't get too dry in the summer!
 
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ganga gurl420

ganga gurl420

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Moskau said:
Thanks for all the responses!



I didn't consider that the treeline could be a problem, but I should go check out the place again and make sure.

When I was looking around I found a lot of stagnant water inside a 1000-foot area, but it's also a very wet time of year, so that might be temporary. The closest stream that I found is like a quarter mile away, so really I hope it doesn't get too dry in the summer!
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I would suggest mixing polymer Crystal's into the soil. This will help control moisture as well as keeping the plants from dying in between waterings.
 
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ganga gurl420 said:
I would suggest mixing polymer Crystal's into the soil. This will help control moisture as well as keeping the plants from dying in between waterings.
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Would something like Coco-coir mixed into the ground work as well, or are polymer crystals the way to go? I haven't heard of them before so I'm just curious if they serve a similar purpose. Thanks again for the advice :)
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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Moskau said:
For the past few weeks I've been scouting for my first guerrilla grow, until now I've mostly tried to find clearings in thick forests.

Yesterday I was walking around and I walked through this young forest filled with spruces, and saw that the ground was covered in dead ferns. Since ferns love shade, and that the trees are only 4 or 5 feet tall, is it likely that they'll grow back in the spring? And if they won't, will other plants spring up in their place?

Also as a follow-up question, do you guys think it would be a good idea to grow short autos here come spring? The plants would get sunlight almost all day since there's almost no canopy other than a few trees. There are vehicle tracks around 200 feet away, but they're at least a few years old, with plants growing there like nothing had happened. The ground is very bumpy and hard to walk through, though there are only a few thorny plants throughout the area, nothing that'd stop someone who's determined to get through.

Thanks in advance for any advice, please let me know if there's something that stands out to you that I didn't consider.
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oh man that doesn’t look like weed to me
 
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Moskau

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Zephyrs said:
I wouldn't put any plants in a spot that clear... My first thought is just because the vehicle tracks are old doesn't mean that a sharp eyed ripper out for a afternoon hike without your knowledge
won't snag a few and trek on. I live way out in the country and seen people hiking out in spots I haven't seen peeps in years. BlackBerry Patches if ya got them in your area are your best bet!!
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I'm also feeling a bit uneasy about how open the area is. I'm not a big fan of hiding in plain sight. Used to live in an area with overgrown brambles everywhere, but where I live now seems to only be farmland or commercial woodland, it's a shame I didn't realize the opportunities back then. :wall:
 
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dubekoms said:
Is the ground wet and marshy? Ferns like wet soil. Looks like it would be a good spot to setup a few swamp tubes.
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When I was there I dug a bit into the soil, it's pretty wet, not marshy though. I don't know if it's only wet because of the heavy rainfall recently, or if it's a wet area, I'll have to go back up after a dry period.

I haven't heard of swamp tubes before, thanks for letting me know!
 
ganga gurl420

ganga gurl420

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Moskau said:
Would something like Coco-coir mixed into the ground work as well, or are polymer crystals the way to go? I haven't heard of them before so I'm just curious if they serve a similar purpose. Thanks again for the advice :)
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Coir has its benefits for sure.... but seeing how it really can mess with the mag and cal absorption of plants you will have to make sure you account for that.
Its really up to you and I would read on both and weigh your pros and cons.
 
too larry

too larry

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OP, those trees are too short to hide full season plants in. You would be alright with autos there, or just planting some later in summer as gg420 suggested. In a couple three years it will be just right. If there isn't much sign of traffic, you might try to get in the south side of the bigger trees.

Since Thursday is the first day of Spring, the sun will be in the exact same spot 6 months from now. (keep in mind you will be in flower well before Fall) If the sun is high enough now, it will be the high enough then.

Good luck
 
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Moskau

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too larry said:
Since Thursday is the first day of Spring, the sun will be in the exact same spot 6 months from now. (keep in mind you will be in flower well before Fall) If the sun is high enough now, it will be the high enough then.

Good luck
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That's actually a really useful trick, I'll make sure to go out this Thursday and see if it blocks the morning sun.
 
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