Covid-19
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raratt
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California is the same, just because the governor is a Democrat does not mean everyone is. The whining about "I have my constitutional rights" is becoming a mantra. HOWEVER the CDC can limit those rights during a pandemic. The "constitutional experts" don't realize that.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
I divide the state into “Cali” which is the TV California and is a solidly blue area. The rest of the state “Fornia” is ime Utah-level conservative.
pabloesqobar
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I live in San Diego. I know. State legislature has a Democrat super majority. But it's apparent there is only one factor anyone here will consider to explain the rise or fall of infections: Which political party do you support. Period.
Let me know the politics of those dead and infected so I know whether to gloat or be sad.
raratt
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I don't believe "everyone" blames just politics, however ignoring the recommendations to wear a mask and social distance seems to be supported by the "leader" of this country.
Any other Republican or Democratic administration in the time of potential pandemic unleashes the CDC and steps back. A normal politician doesn't want to wear the death rate and unleashing our massive public health system insulates them to some degree. This wasn't the usual political reaction. The usual reaction was obstructed.
IMO this isn't a Republican or Democratic issue, this is a malignant narcissist issue.
BudmanTX
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Well said...
raratt
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They need to slow down testing so he doesn't "look bad".
BudmanTX
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He already does, and it's on a global scale now...
raratt
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That's what adds to the irony.
pabloesqobar
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If you're unaware of what the unleashed CDC did at the inception of this pandemic and the incalculable harm it caused, along with its published views regarding the efficacy of masks . . . well, yeah, perhaps it is a malignant narcissist issue.
raratt
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Enlighten me...
tangerinegreen555
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At the beginning, there weren't enough masks and they didn't want the common people buying them.
So there's that. Now they sell them everywhere.
The CDC made some mistakes early with testing too. But I'd still trust them before scoundrel politicians who obviously lie to create a mixed message narrative trying to appeal to a base of deniers.
It's not 1963 when you could trust what came out of DC and presidents got 70% approval ratings when things were going well.
So there's that. Now they sell them everywhere.
The CDC made some mistakes early with testing too. But I'd still trust them before scoundrel politicians who obviously lie to create a mixed message narrative trying to appeal to a base of deniers.
It's not 1963 when you could trust what came out of DC and presidents got 70% approval ratings when things were going well.
I'm very aware.
The CDC wanted respirators reserved for professionals and fabric masks worn without education can be harmful. I'm also aware of the testing issues. However the CDC fixed the testing issue, months ago. So why is testing still so slow? Why don't we have adequate PPE for everyone? Why don't we have educational spots on TV instructing people how to properly use fabric masks and why wasn't the DPA used to support adequate respirators for everyone, or at least sanitary disposable masks.
Like other first world nations why don't we have something like this?
raratt
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Perhaps throwing out the 68 page "What to do in case of a pandemic" manual handed down from the previous administration wasn't a good idea.
hillbill
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trump and Bannon wanted to destroy everything and everyone who actually carried out needed government functions. That includes pandemic response people. So here we are with a political ideology based on right wing extremism and psuedoChristian cult. Total collapse of competence, responsibility and most important the intentional murder of truth.
tangerinegreen555
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In the public health sector 68 pages is the table of contents LOL
pabloesqobar
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If you don't know by now . . . this is not the place to seek objective information.