Crisis in the Ukraine

Will there be war?

  • NATO will do nothing

    Votes: 32 80.0%

  • NATO will confront Russia

    Votes: 8 20.0%
  • Total voters
    40
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Hmmmm. As if you've run the place so well yourselves over the past few hundred years?

The consequences are global and so must also your perspective be. We support Europe just as they support Asia as Asia continues to support us even while complaining.

Show me which country in Europe is ready to stand up to Putin alone.
 
NLXSK1

NLXSK1

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Padawanbater2 said:
I bet McCain would have got shit done, amirite? Maybe you're like that dipshit from Fox News who said she wishes we could get Putin or Assad to handle our foreign policy instead of limpdicked Obama...

Twat.
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Nice strawmen...

You want to put any more beliefs in my mouth that you want to attack?

McCain needs to be put to pasture.
 
WHODAT@THADOR

WHODAT@THADOR

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vladimiroslav said:
Europeans are not asking for help, their spoonfed corrupted politicians are, thats the difference.
We dont need anything from you, no double standard "democracy", no "liberalism, no "human rights" and surely not any kind of military help. The first US invasion on European soil after WW2 was enough, thanks.
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Go get em then!!:-P:-P:eyesmoke:..... Go get your broom's and stick's and Bludgeon the russian to death already.....You see we gave you everything back BTW once ww2 was over.... I heard it's because the food sucked..... Let's see WW1 Amer. saved your Ass....WW2 Amer. saved your ass.....Maybe third times the charm???

 
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ChesusRice

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vladimiroslav said:
LOL.

Calling Putin a Hitler when its precisely the EU and the US who are supporting Ukraine's banksters, oligarchs & far right and fascist groups when its not mercenaries or private militias using nazi symbolism (Right Sektor, Batallion Azov, etc etc etc)...all that after supporting Islamist thugs in the Middle East against a secular state like Syria (and remember Irak, what it was and what it is now)... how funny.

The so "friendly" US of A asking the EU to take sanctions against Russia when in the end it will make far more damage and harm to the EU than the US or even Russia. Just look at the protests and riots emerging in Europe because farmers are starting to lose their crops thanx to these dumbass decisions ,but I guess the 330bln of total trade between the EU and Russia doesnt look appealing to the US (whos only trading 38 billions with Russia). Afterall, TAFTA is coming, the chains must be tightened right?

Americans, why dont you first take care of your crumbling economy, racial riots, immigrant filled southborder towns, millions of crippled obese gmo overfed welfare recipients, water shortages, corrupted politicians, corportion controlled violent police state before putting your nose where it doesnt belong? Seriously, keep out of Europe, thanx.
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Russia is a thugocracy. Putin will do whatever increases his personal wealth for him and his friends regardless of who gets bankrupted
 
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schuylaar

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earnest_voice said:
China and Russia are allies, China has hacked nearly every strategic and tactical R&D program the US has been running for a good number of years. This isn't limited to new programs coming out of the military industrial complex but projects going back decades. To put it simply i do not believe there is a capability the US posses that Russia does not know about. They are not the same military who suffered defeat in Chechnya during the '90s.

A key component to warfare is to hide your REAL capability.

While military might is important, so is the will to fight. After more than a decade of war in multiple theaters the west is all but worn (or should i say WAR'n) out.
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Dear World -

Stop asking US to do shit!

Sincerely,

The United States of America
 
earnest_voice

earnest_voice

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schuylaar said:
Dear World -

Stop asking US to do shit!

Sincerely,

The United States of America
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https://www.rollitup.org/t/al-qaeda-isis-are-extremists.842867/

Please don't forget you opened the above thread with an article in support of moar* war in Iraq and Syria.

But we need to move forcefully and quickly. As Senator Diane Feinstein rightly said, using an alternative name for ISIS, “It takes an army to defeat an army… we either confront ISIL now or we will be forced to deal with an even stronger enemy in the future.” And it may be on American soil.
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schuylaar

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earnest_voice said:
https://www.rollitup.org/t/al-qaeda-isis-are-extremists.842867/

Please don't forget you opened the above thread with an article in support of moar* war in Iraq and Syria.
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i report the news and (unlike most here) good, bad or indifferent..i don't edit content either like many here..tough if you can't take opposing views..that's called intolerance something jihadists live for..

EDIT: further, i posted that thread just to show the most blood thirsty even have their limits..when is "enough is enough"?
 
earnest_voice

earnest_voice

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schuylaar said:
i report the news and (unlike most here) good, bad or indifferent..i don't edit content either like many here..tough if you can't take opposing views..that's called intolerance something jihadists live for..
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You reported nothing. You merely pulled an unattributed copy and paste of an opinion piece and made no commentary of your own as it's obvious it's a subject you know nothing about. In short your argument for war can be summed up with partisan penis pulling...

War under Bush - Illegal and Unjust

War under Obama - For the Greater good
 
Sir Stanky

Sir Stanky

Active Member
Padawanbater2 said:
I bet McCain would have got shit done, amirite? Maybe you're like that dipshit from Fox News who said she wishes we could get Putin or Assad to handle our foreign policy instead of limpdicked Obama...

Twat.
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McCain was/is involved in Ukrainian politics...

McCain-Ukraine-Opposition.jpg
 
vladimiroslav

vladimiroslav

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WHODAT@THADOR said:
Go get em then!!:-P:-P:eyesmoke:..... Go get your broom's and stick's and Bludgeon the russian to death already.....You see we gave you everything back BTW once ww2 was over.... I heard it's because the food sucked..... Let's see WW1 Amer. saved your Ass....WW2 Amer. saved your ass.....Maybe third times the charm???
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Coming at the end of the war when all has been done already is barely saving someone's ass. And you should remember that while your boys were playing on the beach (when they were not looting or raping french girls - they didnt wait to get to Germany to do that...) most of the job was done by Russians on the Eastern front.
And btw we dont want to fight the Russians, we want to ally with them, the only sane thing to do.


ChesusRice said:
Russia is a thugocracy. Putin will do whatever increases his personal wealth for him and his friends regardless of who gets bankrupted
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A "thugocracy" as the rest of the world is. I have no wish to defend Putin's internal politics, they totally suck (on the international politics scene he's a beast though), but Russia is no worse than the US or the UK, its a "liberal democracy."
 
WHODAT@THADOR

WHODAT@THADOR

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vladimiroslav said:
Coming at the end of the war when all has been done already is barely saving someone's ass. And you should remember that while your boys were playing on the beach (when they were not looting or raping french girls - they didnt wait to get to Germany to do that...) most of the job was done by Russians on the Eastern front.
And btw we dont want to fight the Russians, we want to ally with them, the only sane thing to do.




A "thugocracy" as the rest of the world is. I have no wish to defend Putin's internal politics, they totally suck (on the international politics scene he's a beast though), but Russia is no worse than the US or the UK, its a "liberal democracy."
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Wow...What history book are you reading?Hitler owned France and was Bombing the shit out of England the RAF was running out of plane's and soldier's and neither nation even mustered an offensive before D-day......That's WW2......WW1 your a little closer in your fact's as the war had been in a stalemate for many years when America finally entered....Ally with them? Ya must live right next door huh?...Have fun with that I enjoy my uncensored media and education that allow's me to form my own opinion's...Along with the right to be as successful as I want to be.
 
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ChesusRice

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Stalin Roosevelt and Churchill made an agreement not to press on from the west until Russia came from the east

Yes your country is a Thugocracy. Putins desire to attack Ukraine is no different from Hitlers decision to invade the Sudentland. And for the same bogus reasons.
 
vladimiroslav

vladimiroslav

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ChesusRice said:
Stalin Roosevelt and Churchill made an agreement not to press on from the west until Russia came from the east

Yes your country is a Thugocracy. Putins desire to attack Ukraine is no different from Hitlers decision to invade the Sudentland. And for the same bogus reasons.
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And NATO's enlargment who wants to install more bases at the doorstep of Russia has nothing to do with that, right? Neither EU's expansion. Just like the so called Orange Revolution ten years ago had absolutely no ties and nothing to do with US interests right?
Sure.

BTW Im not Russian, I live in Western Europe. But I know that place quite well. And as I said again, whats the difference between the thugocracy thats Russia and the democratic USA or UK? The alphabet used to sell the products in the shops, thats it.
 
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