Day 28 flower 4x4 very full

Cleanfinish93

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Any update on pics? Awesome canopy.. really even, how much wattage is shining down onto them ladies? I currently have a 4x4 tent on the go too day 49 at the minute.
 

reggie1387

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Any update on pics? Awesome canopy.. really even, how much wattage is shining down onto them ladies? I currently have a 4x4 tent on the go too day 49 at the minute.

This is them currently. I’ve noticed they are getting a fair few yellowing leaves a lot quicker the last week. I know in flower plants yellow but seems a few more then normal. Im going to check runoff tonight It might be time to give them a flush to remove excess salts and stop ph lockout. I have 3x kill a watt meters on the 3 sets of lights and using the formula from the draw of Volts x Amps = Watts. They are about 630w
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How many plants do you have in your 4x4?? How’s your yield looking so far?
 

Cleanfinish93

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Mine has done the same since I tapered down the floweing base nutes... if the plants starts yellowing i would try upping your nutrients a tad, obviously check ph first.. but yeah I have upped my nutes hopefully yellow fades back to green again, I had a calmag rust spot on one aswell due to not having any calmag in the res.... I am day 50 at the moment I will update pic soon, i have 1000watts mixture of cobs and hps hopefully i pull near 2 lbs. (Target 30oz)
 

reggie1387

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This is some pics I just took tonight. I’m growing using Lucas Formula maxibloom, I had been feeding full strength up until 2/3 weeks ago I started koolbloom liquid (1ml/gal) and lowered the maxibloom to 5g/gal. I’m only using armor si, calmagic, maxibloom, KB liquid, growth technology oxy plus (h202)

I have a automated watering setup. Comes on 2x a day for 40secs. My res PH can fluctuate sometimes. Set ph at 6.0 a few days later it can be 6.3-6.4 so I’m thinking my plants might either have salt build up or ph lockout. I’ll flush in the morning and see how they go.

what nutrients do you use? Grow medium? I had some troubles with this grow (%100 perlite hempy) with rust spots most of my grow. I use tap water and my water is around 200ppm.

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OG Doge

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Back the light off a little bit and water more often.

Clean up all the dead leaves under the canopy and inside the plant where no light goes. Too much dead matter will bring out the nasties.

You should keep pH at 5.5 and let it drift up to 6.0, and lower your ppm to 1 -1.5 EC

Also next run get a small boy RO filter, it makes feeding way easier.

Hempys are dope, I still use Hempy cups in veg. Having great success with hydroton balls as the medium instead of perlite.

Your canopy looks great, just needs some fine tuning.
 
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Cleanfinish93

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They look sweet mate, i use canna terra soil with mixed perlite in it..all canna nutes.. I'm from the u.k were pretty boring lol, 20200229_112624.jpgashamed to say to but I have never checked my ppm on water or even e.c on my nutes ! I have only ever phed my water that's it, I like to keep it simple so far so good took this few days ago day 50 now, about 3 weeks left I 20200229_112628.jpgthink. Trellice was installed on day 21 flower to support weight incase..
 

reggie1387

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Back the light off a little bit and water more often.

Clean up all the dead leaves under the canopy and inside the plant where no light goes. Too much dead matter will bring out the nasties.

You should keep pH at 5.5 and let it drift up to 6.0, and lower your ppm to 1 -1.5 EC

Also next run get a small boy RO filter, it makes feeding way easier.

Hempys are dope, I still use Hempy cups in veg. Having great success with hydroton balls as the medium instead of perlite.

Your canopy looks great, just needs some fine tuning.
I had them at 16” 2/3 weeks ago. And since then they have stretched a fair bit. Some obviously more then others checking the height last night some colas were as close as 10” and others at 18” I adjusted the light back to 16” and will check on them over the


Yeah I need to clean up under the canopy. I tried last week for ages and barely looked like I touched them.. it would be a lot easier if I could get right in around each plant. And taking them out is more of a pain. After this grow is done I’ve got some grow tent setup improvements that’s

5.5?? I have never really seen anyone grow with lower them 5.8 really. I’ve been told to grow from 5.8 and drift to 6.3. I was around the 1.6-1.8 ec mark when using 3/4 dose Lucas maxibloom. But since going to full rate it’s over. Since researching on here I’ve seen some very low and very high ppm/ec being used.

this is my first hempy grow and using just perlite. I grew in 70/30 coco/perlite fabric pots last grow. I like the hempys I’ll probably stick with them but maybe look into perlite/hydroton mix. next grow I’ll definitely wash wash wash my perlite! I flushed my plants this morning using 140L of plain tap water, ph to 5.8. Before the flush I checked ph runoff and it was 6.3. after the flush ph was still 6.1 and ppm was at 330ppm. I would of thought my ph Would be lower like ppm. 140l through 4x 13L pots I thought would be plenty.

I dunno if I’m best to try and tie the 2x taller plants down a little with will be hard. I’ve already used wood to lift the 2x smaller plants up higher to even out the canopy already.
 

reggie1387

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They look sweet mate, i use canna terra soil with mixed perlite in it..all canna nutes.. I'm from the u.k were pretty boring lol, View attachment 4494940ashamed to say to but I have never checked my ppm on water or even e.c on my nutes ! I have only ever phed my water that's it, I like to keep it simple so far so good took this few days ago day 50 now, about 3 weeks left I View attachment 4494941think. Trellice was installed on day 21 flower to support weight incase..
Wow! Looking good mate. I hope my end up with some good colas like yours! How many plants in there? I wish I never started checking my ec/ppm lol it drives me insane sometimes chasing problems. I definitely over complicated things tho.
I wanted to try scrogging this grow but decided again it but use a scrog frame with 2 nets. Found a pvc design online but I’m kinda glad I didn’t now my tent is already cluttered. Next grow I think I’ll make a frame with a Trellis that joins onto my mesh panel where my buckets sit.
 

OG Doge

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5.5?? I have never really seen anyone grow with lower them 5.8 really. I’ve been told to grow from 5.8 and drift to 6.3. I was around the 1.6-1.8 ec mark when using 3/4 dose Lucas maxibloom. But since going to full rate it’s over. Since researching on here I’ve seen some very low and very high ppm/ec being used.
In coco you go 5.8-6.3. Perlite, rockwool, hydroton, you want 5.5-6.0.

With tap water its hard to stay below 1.5 EC, but once you step up to RO you can dial it way back. I don't go over 580 ppm on the .5 scale.

I used to use tap water and higher EC and the plants were always stressed out and would need a longer flush. A lot of OGs hate that combo and put out garbage if not pampered right. Hardier strains won't show as much stress.
 

Cleanfinish93

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Wow! Looking good mate. I hope my end up with some good colas like yours! How many plants in there? I wish I never started checking my ec/ppm lol it drives me insane sometimes chasing problems. I definitely over complicated things tho.
I wanted to try scrogging this grow but decided again it but use a scrog frame with 2 nets. Found a pvc design online but I’m kinda glad I didn’t now my tent is already cluttered. Next grow I think I’ll make a frame with a Trellis that joins onto my mesh panel where my buckets sit.
Theres 3 shining silver haze from seed, I think I need to invest in an ec pen next round, then again do I? I dont wanna get obsessed with it.. thanks bro there quite big colas now not very dense at the minute hopefully they densen up a tad 20 days left!
 

reggie1387

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In coco you go 5.8-6.3. Perlite, rockwool, hydroton, you want 5.5-6.0.

With tap water its hard to stay below 1.5 EC, but once you step up to RO you can dial it way back. I don't go over 580 ppm on the .5 scale.

I used to use tap water and higher EC and the plants were always stressed out and would need a longer flush. A lot of OGs hate that combo and put out garbage if not pampered right. Hardier strains won't show as much stress.
I used coco with ph 5.8 but I found so many different phs for %100 perlite, hempy grows, anything from the 5.5 as you stated to 6.3 to cover everything. I thread I made on Grasscity about ph this is 1 answer I got (pic) everyone seems to use different phs, and changes if cloned or from seed to ive found
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I brought a RO setup a while ago But never ended up installing it it’s still in my shed this is it.
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reggie1387

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Theres 3 shining silver haze from seed, I think I need to invest in an ec pen next round, then again do I? I dont wanna get obsessed with it.. thanks bro there quite big colas now not very dense at the minute hopefully they densen up a tad 20 days left!
If your grow is doing that well without owning a ec pen then I wouldn’t worry. I have a 2-1 bluelab ph-ec/ppm meter it’s handy to have. If you don’t want to get obsessed then don’t get one lol they look dense. My buds are slowly filling in I hope they get dense. This is my 4rd grow (1 outdoor) (2 indoors) (this 1 indoors) and have always had problems and didn’t get a good yield/quality buds.
 
just browsing this forum becuase i have similar issue and you seem to know your stuff, when would you idealy defoliate leaves and lolipop. in veg? specific time in flower? both?
It really depends on the strain & your grow. If you want to hmu on IG where I'm on more I can answer your questions more personally to your grow. IG= dabble_in_the__dark_arts
 
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