December 21, 2012. Doomsday?
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Miracle Smoke
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No No, i believe that, my point is how is it possible to predict the future? Who was it that had prophecies that one 16th century fellow. Anyway i just don't see how it's possible to predict the future. On the other hand the maya did have accurate calender's so chances are it was a "astronomical prediction" as you said a pole shit or sun storm is likely.What about the scientific evidence pointing to a pole shift or the sun storms? That isn't prophecy
But as for reading the future without astronomy as like something happening on the earth, not in space i just don't see that happening. I'm an open minded individual but i have my own individuality.
Erniedytn
Master of Mayhem
I completely understand where you are coming from on this. All the predictions by Nostradomas were interpreted waaaay after his death, and all the shows I have seen on the Mayan predictions say they can relate each Katune to a certain period of time....but like many others have said on here....hindsight is ALWAYS 20/20.
newbud
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i would never worry about an end of days prediction or anything similar. i have read in depth about the mayans and their astrologly, etc... very intersting. i like the idea of the new period we are entering ästrologicaly "the age of aquarius"the astrological age we have just entered. it is suposed to be not doomsday or anything like that but a time when the whole worlds thoughts change. when everybodies conscious shifts to that from material to one of sharing and love amongst one another. it is a beautiful thought. just as long as i can still grow buds i will be happy.
Token
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And I thought I was smoking the Great Stuff...haha Maybe I'm just high or a realist but where did you hear that new theory?, It sounds more like a thought of a stoned hippie, but with the universe no theory can be right or wrong there is just way to much spaaaaaaaaaaaaccccccccceeeeeeeee out there.
newbud
Active Member
its pretty old, have you heard that song "age of aquarius" apparently it has something to do with that, so yeah i would say it is an old hippie thought of a better earth. i was pretty baked last night, not sure if i need better buds but the freedom to grow as big as we want would be awesome!!
Shook
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i think the mayans predicting the spanish and 9/11 like someone posted is the stupidest thing ive ever heard, how could mayans predict something as ramdom as 9/11 i dont even think they did, just someone made that up after 9/11, but as far as the sun and earth lining up, well every other solar system, and planet out there has lined up before with the center of the galaxy and their sun, so im sure nothing catastrophic will happen
Token
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Here you want some predictions
1) A plane will crash, and one person will live
2) You will see a car crash on your way to work, but no one will b hurt.
There you go now when they come true I will have predicted them. Jk
I don't believe that everyones path is set i think everyday is a new one!
But random events do happen
1) A plane will crash, and one person will live
2) You will see a car crash on your way to work, but no one will b hurt.
There you go now when they come true I will have predicted them. Jk
I don't believe that everyones path is set i think everyday is a new one!
But random events do happen
closet.cult
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well, enough of doomsday predictions. that's all we get from our media. why hasn't anyone noted the good news of the Mayan calenders?
We are approaching the end of the galactic cycle comming around Dec. of 2010, i think.
which means the start of a new galactic cycle which the Mayans say will come with a new awakening of conscienceness. where people will finally understand reality and awareness. this is a true prophasy of theirs and the changes are supposed to happen in a rapid manner. a new world awareness in about 10 months. it's a very positive message.
many groups, religious and secular, have pieced together a theory that explains the past and present world state very well. the Mayan's cyclical time, gear-like universe is a good one. the true test of a good theory is making future predictions. i'll be watching this Mayan stuff very closely, out of curiousity. but to put faith (again) in any group claiming to have deep secret truths of the universe smacks of gullibility to me.
if you want to hear the positive prediction in Mayan prophesy explained in a lecture by a expert in the field, Ian Xel Lungold, here's a link to a great video: Secrets of the Mayan Calendar Unveiled (1 of 3)
and here's a website he's involved with: The Mayan Calendar Portal
We are approaching the end of the galactic cycle comming around Dec. of 2010, i think.
which means the start of a new galactic cycle which the Mayans say will come with a new awakening of conscienceness. where people will finally understand reality and awareness. this is a true prophasy of theirs and the changes are supposed to happen in a rapid manner. a new world awareness in about 10 months. it's a very positive message.
many groups, religious and secular, have pieced together a theory that explains the past and present world state very well. the Mayan's cyclical time, gear-like universe is a good one. the true test of a good theory is making future predictions. i'll be watching this Mayan stuff very closely, out of curiousity. but to put faith (again) in any group claiming to have deep secret truths of the universe smacks of gullibility to me.
if you want to hear the positive prediction in Mayan prophesy explained in a lecture by a expert in the field, Ian Xel Lungold, here's a link to a great video: Secrets of the Mayan Calendar Unveiled (1 of 3)
and here's a website he's involved with: The Mayan Calendar Portal
recvryjst42day
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So we will have a higher conciensness for 2 months before 12,21,2012? This will be interesting. Not worried about it. For there is nothing I can do, but it is interesting.
If you've been researching any reliable sources on this subject you'd know that the end of the mayan calendar doesn't represent the end of the world. There will be something called 'A Transit of Venus'(look it up) and what it really means is that we're ending an age and entering a new age...the age of Aquarius. There's also a galactic alignment!
Erniedytn
Master of Mayhem
And THAT...is supposedly where the problem lies. The Mayans did not say that the world would end, but that period in time relates to a VERY disasterous period
Most of us are not archaeologists or astronomers, anthropologists or astrologers. Yet the majority of what is written about one of the most exciting and relevant subjects of our day - the approaching Winter Solstice 2012 end-date of the Mayan Calendar - appears in words aimed at specialists and couched in language that can be hard to read. This article is written for the Everyday Earthling who may be hearing a lot about the Mayans, their calendars, hieroglyphs and mysterious temples scattered throughout the jungles of Mexico, Guatemala, Belize and Honduras.
Let us begin with some questions. Why is there so much talk about the "end of the Mayan calendar" and what does it mean? Is there something significant we should know about the Winter Solstice date of December 21, 2012? How were the Mayans able to track long periods of time and why would they want to? Why should we care about the Mayans today? Is there anything we can learn from them? I'll begin by sharing how my own interest in the subject developed and go on from there.
I first learned about the Mayans in 1987 from Jose Arguelles' book The Mayan Factor. It was during the months leading up to the event known as Harmonic Convergence that Arguelles, artist and visionary, introduced me to the 20 Mayan daysigns and the thirteen Mayan numbers - and to the wonderfully engaging and mysterious 260 day Mayan ceremonial calendar, called the Tzolkin (pronounced chol-kin). My pursuit of knowledge about pre-Columbian culture had begun.
A great deal of scientific and visionary research work has been done about the Mayans, so I started reading. I learned that the Mayans tracked cycles within cycles within cycles of time. Their calendar acted as a harmonic calibrator, linking and coordinating the earthly, lunar, solar and galactic seasons in an aesthetically simple and elegant manner. The provocative simplicity of the daysigns and the sheer harmony of the calendar drew me in. Then a landmark article by John Major Jenkins appeared in Mountain Astrologer magazine in 1994, revealing for the first time in our era the true meaning of the end-date.
Is there something significant we should know about the Winter Solstice date of December 21, 2012? Yes. On this day a rare astronomical and Mayan mythical event occurs. In astronomic terms, the Sun conjuncts the intersection of the Milky Way and the plane of the ecliptic. The Milky Way, as most of us know, extends in a general north-south direction in the night sky. The plane of the ecliptic is the track the Sun, Moon, planets and stars appear to travel in the sky, from east to west. It intersects the Milky Way at a 60 degree angle near the constellation Sagittarius.
The cosmic cross formed by the intersecting Milky Way and plane of the ecliptic was called the Sacred Tree by the Maya. The trunk of the tree, the Axis Mundi, is the Milky Way, and the main branch intersecting the tree is the plane of the ecliptic. Mythically, at sunrise on December 21, 2012, the Sun - our Father - rises to conjoin the center of the Sacred Tree, the World Tree, the Tree of Life..
This rare astronomical event, foretold in the Mayan creation story of the Hero Twins, and calculated empircally by them, will happen for many of us in our lifetime. The Sun has not conjoined the Milky Way and the plane of the ecliptic since some 25,800 years ago, long before the Mayans arrived on the scene and long before their predecessors the Olmecs arrived. What does this mean?
Due to a phenomenon called the precession of the equinoxes, caused by the Earth's wobble that lasts almost 26,000 years, the apparent location of the Winter Solstice sunrise has been ever so slowly moving toward the Galactic Center. Precession may be understood by watching a spinning top. Over many revolutions the top will rise and dip on its axis, not unlike how the Earth does over an extremely long period of time. One complete rise and dip constitutes the cycle of precession.
The Mayans noticed the relative slippage of the positions of stars in the night sky over long periods of observation, indicative of precession, and foretold this great coming attraction. By using an invention called the Long Count, the Mayans fast-forwarded to anchor December 21, 2012 as the end of their Great Cycle and then counted backwards to decide where the calendar would begin. Thus the Great Cycle we are currently in began on August 11, 3114 B.C. But there's more.
The Great Cycle, lasting 1,872,000 days and equivalent to 5,125.36 years, is but one fifth of the Great Great Cycle, known scientifically as the Great Year or the Platonic Year - the length of the precession of the equinoxes. To use a metaphor from the modern industrial world, on Winter Solstice A.D. 2012 it is as if the Giant Odometer of Humanity on Earth hits 100,000 miles and all the cycles big and small turn over to begin anew. The present world age will end and a new world age will begin.
Over a year's time the Sun transits through the twelve houses of the zodiac. Many of us know this by what "Sun sign" is associated with our birthday. Upping the scale to the Platonic Year - the 26,000 year long cycle - we are shifting, astrologically, from the Age of Pisces to the Age of Aquarius. The Mayan calendar does not really "end" in 2012, but rather, all the cycles turn over and start again, vibrating to a new era. It is as if humanity and the Earth will graduate in the eyes of the Father Sun and Grandmother Milky Way.
Why should we care about the Mayans today? Is there anything we can learn from them? The trees give us oxygen to breathe and help create the nourishing rains upon which we depend, sustaining life. We are missing these rains in places where the trees have been cut down or burned. Fires begin that nature can no longer extinguish. For the Mayans, trees were intermediaries between the physical and spiritual worlds, and absolutely essential to life. They believed that without the tree man could not survive and that "with the death of the last tree comes the death of the human race."
The ancient carved stones and the stars themselves tell us we are on the brink of a new world age. There is no reason not to take a leap of faith into imagining what may be in store. We may trust that it is time for humanity to awaken into a true partnership with each other, with the Earth, and the Cosmos. By accepting this partnership we may claim our birthright and become Galactic Citizens who care for and sustain the planet, thus sustaining ourselves. This is clearly the challenge of our times. Yet, arriving just in time and on schedule is the Winter Solstice dawn on the day we may remember that we are truly Children of the World. __________________
Let us begin with some questions. Why is there so much talk about the "end of the Mayan calendar" and what does it mean? Is there something significant we should know about the Winter Solstice date of December 21, 2012? How were the Mayans able to track long periods of time and why would they want to? Why should we care about the Mayans today? Is there anything we can learn from them? I'll begin by sharing how my own interest in the subject developed and go on from there.
I first learned about the Mayans in 1987 from Jose Arguelles' book The Mayan Factor. It was during the months leading up to the event known as Harmonic Convergence that Arguelles, artist and visionary, introduced me to the 20 Mayan daysigns and the thirteen Mayan numbers - and to the wonderfully engaging and mysterious 260 day Mayan ceremonial calendar, called the Tzolkin (pronounced chol-kin). My pursuit of knowledge about pre-Columbian culture had begun.
A great deal of scientific and visionary research work has been done about the Mayans, so I started reading. I learned that the Mayans tracked cycles within cycles within cycles of time. Their calendar acted as a harmonic calibrator, linking and coordinating the earthly, lunar, solar and galactic seasons in an aesthetically simple and elegant manner. The provocative simplicity of the daysigns and the sheer harmony of the calendar drew me in. Then a landmark article by John Major Jenkins appeared in Mountain Astrologer magazine in 1994, revealing for the first time in our era the true meaning of the end-date.
Is there something significant we should know about the Winter Solstice date of December 21, 2012? Yes. On this day a rare astronomical and Mayan mythical event occurs. In astronomic terms, the Sun conjuncts the intersection of the Milky Way and the plane of the ecliptic. The Milky Way, as most of us know, extends in a general north-south direction in the night sky. The plane of the ecliptic is the track the Sun, Moon, planets and stars appear to travel in the sky, from east to west. It intersects the Milky Way at a 60 degree angle near the constellation Sagittarius.
The cosmic cross formed by the intersecting Milky Way and plane of the ecliptic was called the Sacred Tree by the Maya. The trunk of the tree, the Axis Mundi, is the Milky Way, and the main branch intersecting the tree is the plane of the ecliptic. Mythically, at sunrise on December 21, 2012, the Sun - our Father - rises to conjoin the center of the Sacred Tree, the World Tree, the Tree of Life..
This rare astronomical event, foretold in the Mayan creation story of the Hero Twins, and calculated empircally by them, will happen for many of us in our lifetime. The Sun has not conjoined the Milky Way and the plane of the ecliptic since some 25,800 years ago, long before the Mayans arrived on the scene and long before their predecessors the Olmecs arrived. What does this mean?
Due to a phenomenon called the precession of the equinoxes, caused by the Earth's wobble that lasts almost 26,000 years, the apparent location of the Winter Solstice sunrise has been ever so slowly moving toward the Galactic Center. Precession may be understood by watching a spinning top. Over many revolutions the top will rise and dip on its axis, not unlike how the Earth does over an extremely long period of time. One complete rise and dip constitutes the cycle of precession.
The Mayans noticed the relative slippage of the positions of stars in the night sky over long periods of observation, indicative of precession, and foretold this great coming attraction. By using an invention called the Long Count, the Mayans fast-forwarded to anchor December 21, 2012 as the end of their Great Cycle and then counted backwards to decide where the calendar would begin. Thus the Great Cycle we are currently in began on August 11, 3114 B.C. But there's more.
The Great Cycle, lasting 1,872,000 days and equivalent to 5,125.36 years, is but one fifth of the Great Great Cycle, known scientifically as the Great Year or the Platonic Year - the length of the precession of the equinoxes. To use a metaphor from the modern industrial world, on Winter Solstice A.D. 2012 it is as if the Giant Odometer of Humanity on Earth hits 100,000 miles and all the cycles big and small turn over to begin anew. The present world age will end and a new world age will begin.
Over a year's time the Sun transits through the twelve houses of the zodiac. Many of us know this by what "Sun sign" is associated with our birthday. Upping the scale to the Platonic Year - the 26,000 year long cycle - we are shifting, astrologically, from the Age of Pisces to the Age of Aquarius. The Mayan calendar does not really "end" in 2012, but rather, all the cycles turn over and start again, vibrating to a new era. It is as if humanity and the Earth will graduate in the eyes of the Father Sun and Grandmother Milky Way.
Why should we care about the Mayans today? Is there anything we can learn from them? The trees give us oxygen to breathe and help create the nourishing rains upon which we depend, sustaining life. We are missing these rains in places where the trees have been cut down or burned. Fires begin that nature can no longer extinguish. For the Mayans, trees were intermediaries between the physical and spiritual worlds, and absolutely essential to life. They believed that without the tree man could not survive and that "with the death of the last tree comes the death of the human race."
The ancient carved stones and the stars themselves tell us we are on the brink of a new world age. There is no reason not to take a leap of faith into imagining what may be in store. We may trust that it is time for humanity to awaken into a true partnership with each other, with the Earth, and the Cosmos. By accepting this partnership we may claim our birthright and become Galactic Citizens who care for and sustain the planet, thus sustaining ourselves. This is clearly the challenge of our times. Yet, arriving just in time and on schedule is the Winter Solstice dawn on the day we may remember that we are truly Children of the World. __________________
Erniedytn
Master of Mayhem
Hmmmm...I wonder if it just a coincidence that the biblical or "Noah's" flood hapenned roughly 5,000 years ago? I'm not saying that the planet will be destroyed, but scientists are saying that the alignment of the Earth, sun, and the center of the galaxy will have quite an effect on us. Kind of like we will be passing from the magnetic field of the galaxies north pole into the magnetic field of the galaxies south pole. If you are familiar with magnetic properties then you can see where the problem is
IPokeSmot
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justsmoked
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is any of this gonna affect my grow cycles?..... 